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[duby39]

Stabilizer seems to be hitting hard in my case. It feels like a honest person is sincerely telling you something like - Look, I mean you no harm, but I’ll tell you the real state of things. It is not a bright picture, but it is the way it is. Truth can hurt, but it’s better to know it, even when it hurts. I will not lie to you nor try to comfort you but will also not let you deceive yourself. Yes, you have progressed. But many things are only patched up, and should not be considered as finished job. I am sorry to tell you all this, but you asked for a honest review, and here it is.

So, it feels quite uncomfortable, harder than DRR in a way, if you can believe that. But despite discomfort, I know I should move on. No stack swapping or anything like that. This thing just won’t let me ignore things and pretend everything is great. And what these “bad” spots are - I don’t know. But I know they are there.

This is day 15 of the cycle. I’m running Stabilizer along with Summertime. Anyone having similar experience?

[Michel]

Maybe because I stacked ST1 with LBFH but I was already hard on myself internally due to my strict upbringing. ST1 was more of a patient coach saying “this bill needs paying”, “these dishes need putting away”, “you need a good wash, son” etc.

Then it said “you know, these people aren’t your friends, right?”, “seal this gap”, “Keep calm, no need to rush, let others do that”.

[JCDenton]

I really wonder what Stabilizer will do combined with KHAN Total Breakdown.

[heartmadeiron]

It helps. It doesn’t make TB easier to run, but it provides the necessary grounding to keep things grounded and moving forward when you’re breaking down.

@heartmadeiron

@JCDenton

Will Stabilizer help the breakdown process?

I found that Stabilizer smoothed the rough edges of the Total Breakdown process, which helped me stay grounded through the worst of Stage 1. It’s an intensive package though. You’re addressing foundational issues and deep-rooted beliefs on all fronts. If I had to do it again, I’d stick to a two title stack or add something light and focused like Limitless In the Zone.

[Michel]

Finally figured something out regarding alpha subs

You don’t need to assault anyone, just look like you might do from your body language - how you walk, talk and sit in your own body. How much Yang energy is behind your very being. Even when you are quiet, other people read this - especially those that want to get a cheap victory over you by words or worse.

I never understood the “dominance” part of the Ascension alpha subs - how is it not dominance if you’re not a physically dominating jerk? Now I do, It’s self contained dominance.

[heartmadeiron]

@Michel

You don’t need to assault anyone, just look like you might do from your body language - how you walk, talk and sit in your own body.

Not quite. There’s plenty of Alpha subs like GLM and Emperor reforged which project quiet/subtle authority. Body large isn’t aggressive or violent. Rather carries an air of stability, assurance and strength.

I mean assault is always a last result and as an act of self-defence.

@Michel

how is it not dominance if you’re not a physically dominating jerk? Now I do, It’s self contained dominance.

Three cheers for growth. Dominance has never been one-size fits all. I project dominance through love, confidence and security. People trust me, they feel safe with me, they want what I have to offer.

[Benny]

@heartmadeiron

project quiet/subtle authority.

As you grow up as a man this is what everyone should aspire to.

Subs or not.

[heartmadeiron]

Its universally applicable. Meanwhile, looking like you might assault someone is only circumstancatially benefital. Its gtrat when you perceive a threat but counterintuitive in most settings. Even dangerous.

@Michel

I never understood the “dominance” part of the Ascension alpha subs - how is it not dominance if you’re not a physically dominating jerk? Now I do, It’s self contained dominance.

There’s so much to unpack from this. My first question is, have you ever asked SC what they meant by domaince? Physically dwindling jerl doesn’t align with the philosophy.

[praisetheurdtree]

Can we get stand alone modules for these three?

Chaos Familiarity

Develops the capacity to address one of the deepest and most invisible destabilizers: the nervous system that has been calibrated by years of instability to treat chaos as its resting frequency. For anyone who grew up in dysfunction or spent long enough in turbulence, calm itself can feel threatening — a signal that something must be wrong, that the other shoe is about to drop. This feature supports the recalibration of the nervous system to recognize stability as safe, not boring.

In daily life, this shows as the ability to sit in peace without unconsciously reaching for something to unsettle it. The restlessness that used to arise in calm moments — the impulse to start a conflict, rush a decision, or create a problem where none existed — is recognized for what it is: an old alarm sounding in response to safety. You breathe. You stay. Each time you choose to remain in the quiet, the quiet becomes more familiar, more inhabitable, more yours.

Self-Sabotage at the Threshold

Guides you toward dismantling the specific pattern of destroying good things right as they begin to arrive: the career gaining traction that you suddenly jeopardize, the relationship deepening into something real that you inexplicably pull away from, the finances stabilizing after months of effort that you disrupt with an impulsive decision. Of all The Stabilizer’s features, this one is the most directly relevant to Stage 2’s success. If you cannot sustain positive results, Stage 2’s power has nowhere to go.

In daily life, this shows as the ability to stand at the threshold of something good and not reach for the match. You learn to recognize the old protection for what it is: a part of you that learned long ago that good things end in ways that hurt, and that ending them yourself was at least a form of control. Each time you breathe through the panic of things going well, you prove to yourself that you can tolerate success. The threshold stops being a place of danger and becomes a doorway you can walk through.

The Inability to Receive

Supports the development of the capacity to accept what is freely given: compliments, help, opportunities, good fortune — without the reflexive deflection that sends it all back before it can land. What it addresses is the deep pattern of refusing to take in what the world offers: minimizing wins, declining help, attributing success to luck, turning attention back to others the moment it arrives at you. If you cannot receive, Stage 2’s abundance has nowhere to land.

In daily life, this shows as the quiet practice of keeping your hands open. You let the compliment land without swatting it away. You say “thank you” and mean it — not as politeness but as permission. You accept help without keeping score. Each act of receiving requires you to confront the old belief that you are not entitled to what is being offered, and each time you choose to receive anyway, that belief loosens its grip.

[Michel]

I harbour a lot of misconceptions, none of them coming from Saint or Fire.

Here’s another one, how is it that an audio file can create such self assurance, attraction and drive within 3m play?

[heartmadeiron]

@Michel

Here’s another one, how is it that an audio file can create such self assurance, attraction and drive within 3m play?

Dunno and not too concerned to be honest. I don’t question the hows and whys behind the technology. That it can do something is more than enough for my dollar. Gives me more time to focus on what’s happening

[Goldfinger]

I know this might be me hyper focusing on just your statement, but I disagree with it regardless.

What is truly a man?

@Benny

As you grow up as a man this is what everyone should aspire to.

As a man, would you live by a standard that isn’t yours?

Why should other men live to the standard “you” are imposing?

[Benny]

@Goldfinger

As a man, would you live by a standard that isn’t yours?

Why should other men live to the standard “you” are imposing?

Maybe I phrased it too broadly. I’m not trying to impose a personal standard on all men.

My point is simply that mature dominance, to me, is not about intimidation or looking like you might hurt someone. It’s about being grounded, stable, confident, and safe to be around.

Every man can choose his own standard, but I don’t think aggression should be confused with dominance.

[Goldfinger]

@Michel

Here’s another one, how is it that an audio file can create such self assurance, attraction and drive within 3m play?

It’s actually pretty simple.

When you combine an idea and effective communication that helps you pay attention to the aspects of you associated with the idea (guided focus) in order to develop your own expression of that idea, what we experience using subs becomes possible.

It’s literally the same as speaking to someone that helped you see a different perspective on something.

[heartmadeiron]

Alright. @Goldfinger’s right, not everyone seeks quiet authority or authority at all. That said I think we’re all reading too much into things. Safe it for philosophy and beers on thursday

Edit: thats a real thing around here. Imma start going

[Goldfinger]

Firstly, thank you very much for editing and expanding on your message.

Secondly, I also don’t agree with assault or aggression as dominance.

Thirdly, this is what I was trying to call your attention to

@Benny

mature dominance, to me

What you’re communicating is “an” interpretation of dominance, “your” interpretation.

@Benny

this is what everyone should aspire to.

Doesn’t mean it “should” become a standard for every other person.

[heartmadeiron]

Thanks for updating your message. You refused the situation in real time. That’s alchemists perception right there

[Benny]

@heartmadeiron

You refused the situation in real time.

My words tend to hit home more clearly in real life.
On the forum, and especially over text, my message probably didn’t come across the way I intended.

I hope I’m better understood now. I didn’t mean to create drama.

Before editing, my reply reflected the way I often communicate in real life: direct, opinionated, and blunt.
But over text, without tone or context, that doesn’t always land well, so I’m trying to keep it cleaner here.

That’s all I’m going to say on the subject.

As I’ve matured, certain things have helped me, including subs like Emperor, HoM, and Genesis Mogul.
One thing I’ve come to understand is that real power doesn’t come from aggression. That’s what I wanted to share, and I hope some people can benefit from what I’ve grown to understand as well.

[heartmadeiron]

See all this? This is what i talk bout when I meant development through the subs. You don’t see the changes (yet), but others are picking up on it and responding.

Edit: i don’t mean long term changes, even compared to the posts you made a week ago you’ve matured

[heartmadeiron]

Back on topic. How does Stage 2 compare to OG Ascension? I always found that OG Ascension had a subtle progression.