Could have been a clash with EoG ST1 and Stark Black.
My stack was
Stark Black
EoG ST1
And a pure physical shifting and skills custom: tight, tested over multiple iterations, and refined.
Cycle 1 & 2 was EoG ST1, and the above physical shifting custom.
The early result that an anon pointed out about my income stabilizing, yes, that is true. It dipped below average to about $100 a day, then after the second cycle it rose back up to $200/day on average, the baseline I’ve maintained (mostly) since my first run of SB in 2024.
I should’ve asked earlier what your stack was – given everything you’ve reported, I’d say that the more action driven wealth titles fits your archetype / vibe / type.
ASBR is definitely helped with the refining aspect of your business building efforts. And given that you’re getting immediate results on C&C – which is INCREDIBLY, I mean incredibly action driven (as opposed to EoG Stage 1’s passive healing) – I’d say that you’re one of those who don’t need as much healing in regards to wealth. You can push through those boundaries through will (again, as indicated by the titles you’ve stated produced good results for you).
This is covered in C&C – I’m not sure if you need to add more unless you’re absolutely sure that there’s a specific wealth ceiling that you’ve discovered. If so, I’d actually recommend Revelation of Wealth. It’s not an easy title, however. That being said, it can be disruptive. All wealth healing is, to an extent.
I think everyone needs to think deeply about where a wealth ceiling comes from in the first place. They. Are. So. Strange. We’ve had people tell us the strangest things regarding the origins of their wealth ceilings. They are never surface level and are linked to childhood events, self-worth and self-love issues – we’ve even had people link their wealth ceilings to sexual experiences.
They are not easy to address. That’s one of the reasons one might get recon on a title like EoG St. 1, but it also signifies that if one can simply power through with will, using their will to “heal in the moment” is sometimes the better choice. Going deep into the emotions for healing and just living there – in the depths – can be just as harmful as completely ignoring trauma.
So, we always expect to see discussions like this whenever wealth is involved. Tricky subject to work with. If you don’t actually need this type of scripting right now and you’re doing well, I’d say to wait and plan a period of time where you can use wealth healing and exit cleanly. By this, I mean you choose a month in the future where you’re going to delve deep and when that month is over, drop that sub and start working hard again.
It’s why we always recommend that if you’re going to make a custom, run the healing title as a part of your stack UNLESS the custom itself is designed for healing. That way, you can always “exit cleanly” by ceasing use of the healing title. If you put it in the custom, it’s always there.
Mars just had an exact conjunction with Pluto today which is always associated with being on edge, easy to anger, and quick tempers. It happens only once every other year. It’s impacting everyone right now.
This is what I was thinking when I read @praisetheurdtree 's original post.
You said:
I was having trouble seeing my computer screen around all this irony.
Because everything that you listed doing are the desired results that would prompt someone to run Ecstasy of Gold Stage 1 in the first place.
You might not realize/remember it, but some people have a lot of trouble accomplishing what you did: Disciplining your habits. Starting a business. Focusing your effort and vision into it. BELIEVING IN YOURSELF.
Bruh.
And all of your words of dissatisfaction are overflowing with a sense of worthiness to receive wealth and with the expectation of generating and experiencing wealth.
This is why it’s important, in my opinion, whether working with multi-stagers or single-stagers to generate your own series of bench-marks that will, for you, indicate that the title is working for you. Make your expectations explicit. And then look back to the product description to see whether your benchmarks ALIGN with what is clearly described.
It sounds like you may just be an externally-focused, action-oriented, goal-effective and driven person who tends to ‘keep your eyes on the prize’ and get to business; ignoring, overlooking, or discounting the ‘distractions’ of purely internal shifts and changes. Or at least may have some tendency in that direction.
Well this is demonstrably true about me. I am very much outcome focused and tend to see annoying emotions that I have to work through as a means to an end.
I don’t really care all that much about how I get what I’m chasing, as long as I get it and
A. No body gets hurt.
B. If I gotta cut people out, they at least gain something from their time with me.
I discovered mine on Revelation of Wealth- I discovered I was worried on a very deep level, wealth means isolation, the disinterest of everything in my current life, the end of my inner child, and that I’ll have everything and be nowhere. I’m still working through it
It feels good to hear this reflected. I’m not particularly political but definitely present to this in the zeitgiest.
I’m trying to understand so what would be the use case differences of C&C with NR vs. EOG stage 2 vs. ASBR. Is it a scope-and-process/personal-style question?
I promise you, the ultimate test is that if you’ve not worked through scarcity thinking, poverty thinking etc, you still may be able to manifest some wealth but you would not be able to KEEP IT for very long.
You would self sabotage and find ways subconsciously to blow opportunities and or the money you’ve made. I’m speaking from experience and that’s why I’m working on my foundation currently.
For the record, I’m not running C&C at this time, but I’m just watching and listening to people’s’ experiences with it so when I’m ready to use C&C I know what to do and not to do.
I’m rooting for you, not being disingenuous, and truly hope you’ve been able to root up those issues with EOG1 and are now on your path to prosperity.
Phase 1 was EoG ST1, Physical Shifting, Stark Black. It lasted 7 months. This was the wealth foundation stage, where my intention was just to heal wealth blocks and to fix some physical issues without seduction scripting.
Phase 2 Was always planned to be a focus on school and money provided I made good enough progress, I did, so phase 2 is C&C, Index Gate, and a third title for support without distraction, TBD.
Phase 3 is DRR and Index Gate, depending on how phase 2 goes, I might throw C&C in too to keep up the momentum. This is the final mop up stage where my intention is to clean up and clear out any obvious BS that’s still holding me back.
Phase 4 is where I (hopefully, if I’ve done enough ground work) get back to fun stuff and explode financially and bring it all together. Wanted, Index Gate, possibly C&C, possibly RM Vibes or RM or Ultimate Artist, Possibly Spiritual titles…TBD based on how phases 2 and 3 go.
That’s the arc that I’ve been playing out for a while now.
Alchemist Singularity helped me realize that I don’t need to keep running seduction and physical shifting titles to get those results, it helped break the false paradox of needing to stay on a title forever to stabilize it.
So if all goes according to plan, it should work out, and I should get damn close to my ultimate goal, if not reach it in 2 years.
Can I just say, I really appreciated the conversation and expression here lately.
@praisetheurdtree props for putting it all out there with your EOG experience, and not only did it get addressed and resolved in a way that educated everyone. I imagine @praisetheurdtree, you feel significantly more empowered, resolved, and optimistic.
Is this collective anti-recon?
Side note for myself- I think recon can be as simple as not realizing what has already been accomplished or is being accomplished.
With this mentioned, what kind of results can one expect if they stack C&C with a EoG ST2 ZPQ custom that has Job seeker if their in a sales career?
@SaintSovereign not sure if you got a chance to see my results and feedback that I sent you and @Fire via PM but do you think if I do that as a stack instead it would solve what I was facing on the feedback piece?
I found that just taking the time to really read the copy and analyze it started to resolve a lot of open loops and dissonance for me. I was resisting the copy before, so I started to get really clear with what the sub is and isn’t, and read it clearly with no resistance.
Now wondering if the adaptive scripting part of C&C core, or is it an auxiliary module? Will customs with C&C core contain adaptive scripting?
Some further feedback.
While, transparently, I have found title C&C to currently be a major step down in on-call sales performance compared to HOM, both in terms of lead manifestation and experience as of yet… (recon or other factors may be involved), metrically, my week last week on it still turned out well, not amazing, but very baseline solid sales wise.
My subjective experience sucked as I grappled with recon and I’m on a 1-year-long gravy train of a powerful stack, so any adjustments or positives can be noted as spikes, but my performance remains resilient regardless of state or sub. I still am experiencing some interesting new results which, while they are on the edge of could have happened anyway, I will attribute to C&C, and some are obviously CC
My ex (really close friends, previous friends with benefits) is closing all these leads I couldn’t finish out and letting me keep the revenue on the books. I’ll send her a % of commission, but it’s a major benefit to me with no work. While this has happened here and there by accident with other people, it’s happening multiple times, and she is systematically going through the people I tagged her on and making it her mission to close them out. This is not a normal thing lol (This might be a dream boy and C&C effect lol)
I did get an allocation - a smaller one, $10K, in a very hard-to-access private investment. Large public company that got taken private again. I was on the list through a connect, and it went through
I have two financial advisors whom I’ve scheduled with or got back in touch with for tax strategy and investment purposes, as well as an estate lawyer contact to reach out to. So I definitely notice myself getting my affairs in order. These have been tangentially circling around for the last year, but I find myself actively dealing with this now.
My passive role at the private equity firm I used to work for got clarified as an active advisor. I’m so tempted to burn everything to the ground to go full-time in building value-add and income/equity options there, so I may increasingly look to bring that back in, but I’ve also built something incredible in the sales role I am in. I need to get back to taking on more mode. I’m workign really hard but still coasting, have to get back to my real growth edge.
I am noticing, owning, taking credit for, and feeling the confidence of everywhere I have actively built something already. As I walk around like I have not ‘built’ anything, in some negative conversation, when the truth is that’s fucking bs. I’ve built many incredible things that are lasting. Relationships, networks, career, and physical strength. The sub is showing me where I am already a builder. And it’s showing me where I am already resilient in reality and can let go of mental doubt. This was a weird result but a pretty cool result
I’m switching back to ASBR/C&C custom since it came to finish out the week, while I’m already on top of the sales mountain for the month. I know it’s not the cleanest week with switches, but the subs are similar enough where I hope they’re somewhat interchangeable. If it goes well, I’ll float it into next week.
