EoG Stage 1 is light healing, but it’s healing nonetheless. As a rule of thumb, I always recommend including the healing title as part of the stack, not the custom. That way, you can choose when to run healing scripting.
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wtf is happening
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My understanding is that people are comparing the old EoG1 with the new EoG1 - both of which are healing titles.
If I’m not mistaken, some users claimed to use the old EoG1 ZP for many months and had radical outward wealth manifestations. I believe it was @Jouissance specifically.
This distinction seems to be where the comments are emerging from.
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I understand that, but my point still stands. New EoG is a new, more fleshed out and effective product, structured differently than the original. The original version had to be run chronologically and successively. You couldn’t skip from stage 1 to stage 3 for example.
The new EoG was the first of our new four stage format, where you can choose where to start and how to proceed. You can go from stage 3, back to 1, then to 4, then hit up stage 2. Your choice.
As such, New EoG is structured so that the features in each stage are complementary. All healing is in one stage so that you get to choose when and how you heal.
This was all communicated prior to EoG’s launch.
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what about JCDenton not getting results from Genesis Mogul?
And why wouldn’t healing manifest outwards? I always thought that by removing some limiting beliefs, you naturally start making different choices which naturally makes you earn more money, in case of wealth healing
now I don’t understand what healing does lol
EDIT: and if EOG healing is meant to be internal, why did I exeperience such drastic changes?
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I’m back on the forum again!
I’ve been struggling with the seduction/dating titles for months now, even though HOM (and a few other titles) gave me good, sometimes even great results.
Any tips for healing dating/seduction limiting beliefs?
Right now I’m running WDB + Primal Seduction + Emperor.
P.S. I still haven’t tried C&C yet.
HOM was honestly one of the best titles I’ve used. RICH helped clear some limiting beliefs super quickly, and HOM did too within a cycle or two. I’m basically looking for that same kind of “click” but for dating.
I also ran Primal again for a cycle recently, then started my current stack.
Sorry for derailing the topic from wealth into dating.
But it feels no matter which title I use for it nothing is going for me in that area.
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I ran it for 9 months after 2.5 years of Mogul/AscendedMogul/Emperor and it absolutely activated all that past scripting that was blocked by my subconscious.
It also made me able to run HOM effectively
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But like @SaintSovereign is saying, new EOG Is different. It’s even stronger, but also, it’s more specific. You know EXACTLY what you’re getting with EOG1 cuz it’s written out feature by feature
Also with NWE, the healing on wealth titles is incredible, so it’s less necessary to run healing titles with NWE in my opinion. Still a GREAT idea - but you won’t get BLOCKED without healing the way I did
I’m 100% certain that people need to stop thinking in terms of “best titles for X” and more in terms of “title with features most ALIGNED to my goals”
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Honestly I might just run EOG to see what the fuss is about
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@JCDenton – this is why I asked you to disclose your experimental usage of titles.
Some people simply don’t fit the archetype, or know how to use the tools available. One person – especially one who uses the subs in an experimental manner, running upwards of 10 titles – does not dictate the success or failure of a title.
Who said it didn’t? Individuals were using a healing title, but looking solely at wealth results. In this scenario, it would be far too easy to miss the connections between inner state and outer wealth changes, especially if you are engaging in self-sabotage by thinking the title “isn’t working,” when in actuality, your introspection is focused on external results (which Stage 2, 3 and 4 helps with) versus inner changes (stage 1).
All in all, this issue is the result of a misunderstanding / miscommunication regarding the nature of EoG Stage 1. Not a flaw in the scripting that has been performing quite well since January of 2025.
Because you were probably using the title correctly. Understanding that it’s a preparation stage, a healing stage and worked with it properly. Also, what else were you running with it?
Use the title that fits you best. That’s one of the main messages here.
As for EoG – I’m not even going to argue this with anyone – go look at Stage 1 of EoG vs. Stage 2, 3 or 4 and tell me what you think. Here, I’ll make it easy. I’ll just list the titles of the features:
Stage 1:
- Roots of Scarcity
- Inherited Wealth Stories
- The Worthiness Recalibration
- Money as Energy
- Transforming Guilt into Gratitude
- Healing Wealth Trauma
- The Money-Heart Connection
- Fearless Financial Decisions
- Aligning Wealth with Purpose
- A New Wealth Identity
- The Foundations of Wealth
- Multiple Streams of Income
- Wealth from Passion
- The Wealth Planning System
- Wealth with Gratitude
- Investing Made Simple
- Mastering Financial Discipline
- Abundance in Collaboration
- Living Abundance Daily
- Embracing Small Manifestations
- Dispelling Stubborn Beliefs Blocking Wealth
- Expanding the Horizons of Possibility
Stage 2:
- Decoding Customer Desires
- Magnetic Marketing Strategies
- Data-Driven Wealth
- Digital Influence
- Value Proposition Crafting
- Conversion Catalyst
- Scaling for Success
- Passive Income Streams
- Networking with Purpose
- Monetizing Creativity
- Foundations of Productivity
- Company Culture Creation
- Leadership for Wealth
- Financial Literacy Essentials
- Innovation Hubs
- Resource Optimization
- Sustainable Business Strategies
- Mastering Delegation
- Communication Excellence
- Self-Mastery and Wealth
- The Power of Community
- Energy Management Systems for Personal Productivity
- Biohacking for Peak Performance
- The Science of Habit Formation
One of these are very obviously about redefining one’s relationship with money, the other is clearly about the ACTION of generating wealth. In fact, let’s just go ahead and do the same with stage 3. Stage 2 goes into granular detail about things like value propositions, multivariate testing, creating a company culture, enhancing passive income streams.
It is clearly not the same as EoG Stage 1.
Stage 3:
- The Millionaire’s Mindset
- Ideation and Vision Crafting
- Manifesting Creativity into Reality
- Refinement Through Innovation
- The Art of a Grand Debut
- The Language of Wealth
- The Dance of Market Forces
- Mastering Risk vs. Reward
- Passive Income Mastery
- Profit Through Awareness
- Creating a Winning Network
- Magnetic Presence
- Building Bridges, Not Walls
- The Inner Abundance
- Time as Currency
- Harmony in Finances
- Creating Positive Ripple Effects
- Shaping a Wealth-Building Brain
- Uncovering Hidden Niches for Lucrative Opportunities
- Idea Incubation Hubs
- Disruptive Value Propositions
- Continuous Learning Loops with Adaptability
Notice that as we progress through the title, you are seeing less and less “abstract” healing ideas and more focused, grounded tools.
These products are for professionals. They’re for people who want to use a tool to accelerate their growth. EoG is for people who can read these tools, understand them and then utilize them easily in their day-to-day life. This whole concept of running a wealth sub and money falling from the sky is not what our products are about.
With features that help you understand the nature of product launches (The Art of a Grand Debut), refining products over time through customer feedback (Refinement Through Innovation), calculated risk (Mastering Risk vs. Reward) and even finding hidden niches for your to profit (Uncovering Hidden Niches for Lucrative Opportunities), this is not a “lemme just run this, take no action and wait for money to just show up at my door” kind of title.
It is nuanced, it is advanced. You should be building something while using it, like a career or business. If you are not, or you are overexposing, or you’re running the wrong title – instead of creating a fearful frenzy, you should consider focusing and using the tools with skill.
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In my experience it’s a great titles and it also helped me with healing some wealth limiting beliefs
But it’s just different than HOM or RICH
For me it’s super easy to define a path - first RICH then use something stronger
Each one of them worked
G:M just took more time to get activated
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Oh, I understand now, thank you for explanation!
Most of the time, it was new GLM. I had some other titles that I used for a bit but none of them are directly wealth related (Emp Executive, Paragon Sleep, new Khan ST1 - maybe it has some wealth scripting but I got the results I described prior to running it. Used each for a cycle or so. Not at the same time, strictly followed recommendations. GLM and EOG were constant).
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GLM + EoG Stage 1 is a phenomenal stack – exactly what I’m trying to illustrate here. GLM drives action, we can see this clearly in the GLM thread. It has a “get up and get it done” feel that many have reported on, including myself. It also helps produce a deep sense of inner resilience and peace – perfect for stacking with a healing title.
EoG Stage 1 quietly helping you address things like inner worthiness of wealth (The Worthiness Recalibration), past traumas with wealth (Healing Wealth Trauma), developing passion in wealth-generating pursuits (Wealth From Passion), and other features like “Expanding the Horizons of Possibly,” “Turning Guilt Into Gratitude,” etc. + GLM helping to drive action = what you’ve perceived as massive external growth.
Now, since we’re on the C&C thread and I want to get back to that, try stacking C&C + EoG 2 and watch what happens. This would be a stack I recommend for career and early stage entrepreneurship.
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That’s a little insulting and straw man-y given that I literally started a business, quit all habits that were sabotaging my results, and spent 7 months grinding, refining, working, and doing homework.
So if its for professionals only, and it isn’t suitable for someone starting a wealth journey. Can we get a wealth healing title that is suitable?
Like is it possible to turn “Wealth Limit Destroyer” into a stand alone focused wealth healing title that can be used by anybody.
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Regardless, I won’t derail this thread anymore, I was frustrated because I worked damn hard.
However C&C has been pure bliss since day one. Idk, like it a LOT.
Ton of romance potential with no stacking.
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I generally don’t like the multistagers.
On my years long Emperor run I didn’t need to think about the subs. Just listen and build your life. The results will come.
Multistagers for me have the same problem as customs. I need to think about what to run, how to build it and so on.
For my over thinking tendencies, that is a big no no.
The perfect solution for me was a single stack comprehensive title like the Emperor. And now C&C.
But damn do I want to do a run of full EoG on the side.
Edit: I’ve gotten my biggest results from the mainstore titles. I’ve also run a ROM custom and I did learn a lot about how the inner Chaos between my ears works.
But the biggest “real world” results are from the mainstore Emperor.
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Sounds like you listened to the recommendation:
And it sounds like the healing worked perfectly if it made you quit all bad habits, didn’t it?
Do you think the grinding, learning, and working could have been accelerated with EoG2, which is tailored to that situation, after following EoG1 which is tailored toward making you quit all habits that could sabotage results?
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That was not directed at you specifically – my apologies for that.
Now, everyone here seems to be a bit on edge right now. The world is hot right now, and thus I can understand why you’re frustrated. The entire collective is frustrated. I am too, and we’re all leaking anger right now. But, let’s do what we always do – take a step back, take a breather and try to resolve this.
Let’s look at this a different way, if you’re open to it. This part:
Are you SURE this isn’t EoG Stage 1 working? The frustration you experienced, thinking the title is “doing nothing,” and becoming bored with it is textbook reconciliation. You said you started a business, took action and worked on refinement. While yes, EoG Stage 1 is largely healing (closer to OG style healing too, not the new modalities in all the latest titles), it also has features like this:
- The Foundations of Wealth
- Multiple Streams of Income
- Wealth from Passion
- Mastering Financial Discipline
- Expanding the Horizons of Possibility
- Fearless Financial Discipline
- Investing Made Simple
… etc. If you look at the descriptions of these features on the sales page, can you really 100% say that it didn’t help? And now you’re running a theoretically difficult title (C&C) with no issues. Let’s look at the healing features of EoG Stage 1:
- Roots of Scarcity
- Inherited Wealth Stories
- Worthiness Recalibration
- Money-Heart Connection
- Aligning Wealth With Purpose
- Transforming Guilt into Gratitude
… etc. I mean, these are some HARD topics to grapple with depending on the person. You say there was no outward action while on it, while simultaneously building a successful business endeavor. You also say you dropped all habits sabotaging your results. Again, take a look at the healing features in EoG Stage 1. These alone can account for that:
- Living Abundance Daily
- Embracing Small Manifestations
- Dispelling Stubborn Beliefs Blocking Wealth
- Expanding the Horizons of Possibility
Now, I am not trying to take away your hard work – you all already know, that is not our way, we constantly reaffirm that an individual’s hard work belongs to them. But, I do think that your hard work is diminished a bit if you fail to recognize that even through potential reconciliation (and extended recon from working through so much healing), you still managed to create something meaningful for yourself.
This would mean that you somehow worked through many of the things that causes a person to fail – as the EoG Stage 1 description notes: “… as well as going a bit more granular into the issues that prevents people from achieving maximum success…”
This means working through issues like inherited wealth stories. Do you all realize how INGRAINED that is? And to work through it is something quite beautiful for the person. So, if you were to seriously analyze your experience again, comparing what you did against the objectives of the title – did it really not help at all?
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I’m genuinely done, I’ll admit that maybe I’m wrong, though I do believe that I followed all reccomendation for getting the best results.
Truth is I WANT to be wrong, because this company has helped me go so far already, and the products they’ve created are truly amazing more often than not. If I get a windfall, I’d gladly donate a large sum just for R&R no strings attached.
My experience was just a bit confusing, I saw someone else with an experience similar to mine, and it triggered built up frustration that I’ve expressed now.
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Seems like C&C is just helping you reconcile your venture on EoG. Maybe some fruit may emerge from all of this.
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