For a "ultimate physical shifting for beauty" custom, do you throw in Paragon Complete?

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#1

I’ve been drafting this custom for a while now, and I’m in no rush to finalize it. After looking through other physical shifting customs on the forum, I’ve realized just how many different ways this can be structured.

I have most of it figured out, but one thing I’m still debating is whether to include a third core. Right now, my cores are:

  1. LoTS Core
  2. New Physical Shifting Experience Core

The main goal of this custom is physical shifting for beauty, and I want to ensure that every module supports that without creating mixed objectives. I’m considering adding Paragon Complete as a third core, since it focuses on physical health—and in my view, health and beauty are deeply connected.

My concern is whether Paragon would enhance the primary goal
or dilute the overall focus. Would adding it strengthen the results, or would it shift the custom too much toward general health rather than beauty-specific changes?

  • Do you add Paragon to your physical shift custom?
  • YES
  • NO

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#2

Leave it out. If you have the desire to work on a specific health issue either stack your custom with Paragon, or run Paragon solo for a few months.

This. You have the right idea. You want a custom that you can run for months or years to get the full effect of physical shifting. Anything that you might not want in 6 months or a year should be left out. Keep it tight and focused and you’ll be able to stack it with anything and stay on it long term.

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#3

You might try submitting a support ticket but yeah I wouldn’t stack it. It could take away a lot of focus of the custom and put it into healing. I know they didn’t add height inducer into lots because of similar reason saying that it was just too energy draining? Something in between those lines? And that the shifting title would work better if it focused on everything else instead. Paragon alone is quite energy draining sub for some people. I really would try to ask the support.

#4

That’s what I figured.

How about health modules tho? Are those good to go, I was gonna throw in Synergy: Preordained Vitality and Stress module.

#5

Aww damn I was gonna put height inducer into this cutom.

#6

I mean you could still do it along with paragon too but the results will be slower that’s all haha

Hey man. If you really want the fastest and best shifting, make it qtks. It’s expensive but I got my shifting custom and I swear every time I listen to it, I feel my body changing. My face is changing. My lats started developing rapidly, my doctor said my spine looks impressive as fuck. Most of the time I listen to it before sleep and the next day I’m half a kilo or kilo lighter (I have fat burn and want to lose weight) and once I hit my goal, I kid you not stayed the same weight ever since even though I’m eating everything and not tracking shit

Qtks is wiiiiiild when it comes to shifting customs 1000000% worth the money.

Also - divine self image is great addition to shifting custom. You start to like your looks more - which just makes everything better in the longer run too

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#7

You can add height inducer @Spartan was pointing out that they left it out of the store copy because not everybody wants it and it’s energy intensive. If you want it, add it.

LotS already has scripting to help with relaxation, so unless you have an issue with stress that’s extreme enough that you want to tackle it with a module, I’d leave it out.

Preordained vitality is cool. I don’t use it because I try to keep auras to a minimum.

Why don’t you list your modules, that would make this easier. :sweat_smile:

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#8

Custom specs??? :fire:

#9

What do you mean specs?

#10

The modules in your QTKS custom.

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#11

Ok that would make things easier to post the whole custom, but I have 2 questions regarding modules

Can you “double stack” a module to give it more focus or is this a complete waste of a module? For example, if I go:

Synergy APS: Head/Face + Facial Morphing

I know the Synergy already has facial morphing in it, but my question is will face get more focus if I have both modules? Or is this pointless and does the 2nd module do nothing?

And my other question is, do modules behave the same in a synergy as they would solo? Like would Apollon have the same effects solo as Synergy: Apollon Unbound would?

Like @Spartan said, the Qtks is worth the hype from everyting I read about it, but it ain’t cheap so I really want to nail this one :sweat_smile:

#12

For example here’s a custom I’m working on for my particular goals around beauty and physical shifting. I haven’t tested it yet, but I feel like it’ll work pretty well.

  1. Legacy of the Spartan Core - Main physical shifting core.
  2. BDLM Core - Do I need to say?
  3. Synergy Ambrosia - Pheromones and smelling amazing, also helps with style.
  4. Synergy Appollon Unbound - Guides it toward sexiness.
  5. Synergy Glory Incarnate - Fame and social media, fitness influencer vibes.
  6. Moment Immortalized - Stacks with above, ensure I look good on camera for Insta and such.
  7. Ethereal Presence - I just love this aura, I’ve used it over and over again and have been told I look like an angel while on it.
  8. Elegance - Stacks with above, helps increase vampire vibes.
  9. Enchanting Smile - My smile is a weak point.
  10. Dance Mastery - I love dancing and work as a dancer.

Well yeah, that’s good man. Look at it as an iterative process. Build the best custom you can, if it’s not perfect, tweak it and build another. Once you nail it, invest in QTKS.

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#13

HELEN OF TROY
NSE
SPARTAN
HEARTSONG

  • Face & Head
  • Eyesight
  • Hair
    ㅤㅤ
  • Heracles
  • Anvil of Hephaestus
  • Extreme Exercise Motivation
  • Fusion Optimized
  • Fat Burn
    ㅤㅤ
  • Fearsome
  • Voice is the Law
  • Epigenetics & DNA Modulator
    ㅤㅤ
  • Inner Voice
  • Divine Self-Image
    ㅤㅤ
  • Synergy: Glory Incarnate ( fame )
  • Lifeblood Fable ( reputation )
  • Moment Immortalized ( look good on cam/photos )
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#14

Frankly I don’t know. I would argue it’s a waste, probably. If you want more power and focus, then use less modules.

Even if you’re double sacking the same module, it’s just increasing the amount of processing from the Subconscious which is slowing down results.

In general faster results come from less input, and more focused customs not more exposure to the same input.

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#15

What do you think? You double stacked a module? You have Lifeblood Fable which is also in Synergy Glory Incarnate.

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#16

Yeah I don’t know man I have this custom with khan so… my reputation irl is definitely present. Just can’t say how much is the custom and how much is khan. I honestly forgot about what modules I had lol I just love the shifting for the most part.

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#17

I don’t actually know tbh. I kinda look at the synergy modules as a way to save money and streamline things if they contain a bunch of modules I would want to use anyway.

That’s probably a support question.

#18

I’d say they behave the same yeah
Just more of them in one pack

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#19

The mark of a well made custom. If it stacks so well you don’t even know what’s working.

#20

Tell me what ya’ll think. V1.0:

Legacy of the Spartan Core
New Physical Shifting Experience Core

Synergy APS: Head/Face
Synergy: Apollon Unbound
Synergy: Preordained Vitality
SPS: Nervous System
SPS: Skeletal System
SPS: Fat Burn
APS: Hair
Apollon
Facial Morphing
Physicality Shifter – Sexiness
Anvil of Hephaestus
Deep Sleep
Emperor Fitness Height Inducer
Epigenetics & DNA Modulator
Enchanting Smile
The Aligner
Omnidimensional
DEUS
Yggdrasil

Let me know what you think. Yes I do have facial morphing and Apollon in there twice, one solo and one in a synergy. I am assuming their effect could be stacked or is this pointless?