Experimental listening pattern 30sec

[themadsexyscientist]

I love the idea of microloops where you are using the sub to achieve light processing with minimal recon but had a question

I believe @Fire mentioned in a post that each microloop is like a mini stage, or something of the sort. So if thats the case can someone realistically do microloops but instead of just listening to the first 30 secs every time and increasing exposure, they could instead do microloops for the first 30 secs, then the next day move to 31secs- 1min after the rest day and keep doing that for months on end

day 1
0-30 secs

day 2
rest

day 3
30 second mark - 1min mark

day 4
rest

day 5
1 min mark - 1:30 min mark

day 6
rest

and so on

so basically you’re only doing thirty seconds, less processing, going through each microloop stage and less recon, more execution

could this be doable…

@SaintSovereign @Fire

[heartmadeiron]

Sure. That was original idea. You can see it on some artisian pages

That doesn’t means less processing or recon though. You can just as easily hit wall at 1:30.

[themadsexyscientist]

Wait, I always thought the microloop was meant for increasing exposure overtime, so you’re basically going from listing 30 secs - 3 mins

instead of listening 30 secs increments only but listening to 30 secs per block if that makes senses

like 0 sec mark - 30 sec mark( 30 secs)

30 sec mark - 1 min mark (30 secs)

1min mark - 1min 30 sec mark(30 secs)

and then if you hit recon there you go back to the 30 sec - 1 min mark but still maintaining 30 secs of listening throughout out, never increasing listening time just going through different time intervals

so even if you get to the 15 min mark over time, you would have only been listening to 30 secs microloops

I’m not sure if I’m explaining it properly

[heartmadeiron]

Shrug? Dig deep enough you can find suggestions going either which way. Regardless you can do 30 second increases. I used to do them all the time. I still do for new titles.

But again, this doesn’t necessarily translate to less recon. You just easily suffer from recon moving up 15 seconds, 30 seconds or even 5.

[themadsexyscientist]

@heartmadeiron

But again, this doesn’t necessarily translate to less recon. You just easily suffer from recon moving up 15 seconds, 30 seconds or even 5.

but wouldn’t listening to 3 or even 5 mins straight in one listening session be more processing vs breaking it down into intervals across several days that equate to 5 mins while maintaining 30 secs listening time

[heartmadeiron]

Again I can only shrug.i very little thought into the listening of aubs and how the tech works. I just play my loops and go on about my day.

[Forexpreneur]

@themadsexyscientist

instead of listening 30 secs increments only but listening to 30 secs per block if that makes senses

like 0 sec mark - 30 sec mark( 30 secs)

30 sec mark - 1 min mark (30 secs)

1min mark - 1min 30 sec mark(30 secs)

It’s advised to not jump like your mentioning in chunks. You always start from the beginning and then add, not stick to 30 seconds and then listen to 30 seconds from say 1 min to 1 minute 30 seconds.

You would start at the beginning and listen to the first 30 seconds on your first listening day of a new title. If no recon then you can add another 30 seconds from the beginning so it would be 0 to 1 minute. If no recon next listening day would be 0 to 1 minute 30 seconds.

If you skip parts it will certainly cause recon and you will have far fewer positive results and possibly next to none at all.

[themadsexyscientist]

@Forexpreneur

If you skip parts it will certainly cause recon and you will have far fewer positive results and possibly next to none at all.

Not skipping
you still have to start from the beginning and move up slowly

so if 0 - 30 sec is stage 1
30 - 1 min mark would be stage 2
1 min mark - 1:30 min would be stage 3

You start with stage 1, then move to stage 2, if stage 2 gives you recon you go back to stage 1…also just to be on the safe side, you’d do 1:30 min straight once a week just to cover the basis

if anyone is familiar with interleave learning, its essentially the same concept. You don’t skip any stage, you’re just choosing to focus on stage 2 only for example after stage 1 is comfortable, then the end of the week you cover stage 1 and 2 as a refresher

hope that makes sense

I feel like how I’m thinking it and how I’m explaining it might be different

[Evolver]

Your listening based on the assumption that each 30s has different scripting so different parts of audio do different things and you dont want to feel like u missed any scripting.

But the truth is, each small section of the sub contains the whole sub, but written in varying stages of depth and complexity.

So initial sections may be easier to listen to, and as you slowly raise the time, the complexity is slowly added on , at least that’s my understanding of how the subs are written

Just keep it simple and slowly raise the loop duration from micro loops. The creators of the sub have already worried about how people would listen to them. So our job is just slowly raise the loop time and forget about everything else, while taking consistent action

[Judoka]

Don’t forget to also stay at a listening time for 2 or 3 loops before deciding to go up it may not be immediatly obvious that your in recon and end up adding even more recon on top

And when you experience recon go back down and maybe try even smaller increments than 30s like 10s

[MAkh]

Don’t do this

You’re ignoring what your subconcious fundamentally needs for change - repetition

Starting from zero each time ensures repetition and reinforcement occurs of the early material

What the microloop method does is it allows your to mind to reinforce the input and if increasing allows you to introduce novel ideas at the right pace for you

Jumping from different time slots is not ensuring this and you are more than likely to hit much harsher recon because of the complexity increasing as you go through the loop

Plus its ignoring the fact that there is support scripting, anti recon, adaptive scripting, nervous system scripting, which may or may not be through out the loop

And if you are using a custom, the modules themselves are frontloaded. So if you just carry on from a certain point in the custom, you may not even be listening to the modules anymore and just core content

[anon15812918]

There would be no point in that, might as well just listen to the full sub

Also this question has been asked multiple times already

The goal of microloops is not to listen to less information - the amount of information isn’t the problem. The goal is to work from easiest part to hardest

Easiest parts are in the beginning and it’s getting harder and harder

So you listen to a micro loop and work through basic issues preventing you from success. Once you worked through them, you don’t have recon at this duration. That’s when you start listening a bit more (the harder part), while still reinforcing everything prior

[heartmadeiron]

Wait is he talking about increasing loops by 30 seconds every time or is he talking about starting the track from where he left off and moving up 30 seconds every time?

[anon15812918]

@heartmadeiron

track from where he left off and moving up 30 seconds every time?

this.

@themadsexyscientist

day 1
0-30 secs

day 2
rest

day 3
30 second mark - 1min mark

day 4
rest

day 5
1 min mark - 1:30 min mark

[anon15812918]

@heartmadeiron

Was giving him the benefit of the doubt

I mean, the quote is from the original post haha

@themadsexyscientist case in point:

How do you solve the problem with sleeping?

From another post: Disrupted sleep from a single loop of one minute early in the morning is almost unheard of. And then, the notion that it is every title you’ve tried is also telling, meaning titles that are exceptionally short would also produce this issue. As such, it is not an issue with the subliminal technology itself, but rather the nature of how the individual processes information. The solution is always the same: even less exposure, increasing over time until you’ve become acclimat…

“We do not follow this trend, nor do we claim it, since we are sure that with the Zero Point method – length and density isn’t nearly as important as subject matter. We build our titles to whatever length is necessary to accomplish the title’s goals. Some are short, some are longer.”

[themadsexyscientist]

@anon15812918

There would be no point in that, might as well just listen to the full sub

Also this question has been asked multiple times already

The goal of microloops is not to listen to less information - the amount of information isn’t the problem. The goal is to work from easiest part to hardest

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification. That actually makes a lot of sense. I was looking at it from the perspective of more information instead of the complexity of the subject. I honestly didn’t understand the concept and how it worked tbh, you learn something new everyday.

[themadsexyscientist]

@anon15812918

Easiest parts are in the beginning and it’s getting harder and harder

makes sense

[themadsexyscientist]

@anon15812918

So you listen to a micro loop and work through basic issues preventing you from success. Once you worked through them, you don’t have recon at this duration. That’s when you start listening a bit more (the harder part), while still reinforcing everything prior

I appreciate

@anon15812918

So you listen to a micro loop and work through basic issues preventing you from success. Once you worked through them, you don’t have recon at this duration. That’s when you start listening a bit more (the harder part), while still reinforcing everything prior

Just wanted to state that I’ve never used the listening patterns I said above , its all conjecture lol

[SaintSovereign]

NOTE: We’ve said on the forum so many times to NOT jump ahead. It’s even in the instruction manual:

Please Note: There is no need to try and “skip ahead.” The micro-loop technology is quite intricate — it does not consist of merely massive amounts of information. Each title is masterfully crafted according to the difficulty of the subject matter being processed, as observed through thousands of customer reports.

Attempting to jump ahead through the file in an attempt to “get the full script” is not advisable, as the titles are MADE with the micro-loop technology in mind. Jumping ahead may actually impede results, as each title is designed for the user to progressively work through, which is intended to help you generate incredible growth in your life.

[themadsexyscientist]

@SaintSovereign

Please Note: There is no need to try and “skip ahead.” The micro-loop technology is quite intricate — it does not consist of merely massive amounts of information. Each title is masterfully crafted according to the difficulty of the subject matter being processed, as observed through thousands of customer reports.

Every new cycle after a washout, even if I’ve safely reached 3 or 5 mins on the same stack I’ve been using for awhile, I always start at 30 secs and work my way up again slowly, kind of like a warm up set if we are using the gym analogy