Emperor Vs Khan Vs stark Vs Ascension

Thanks, that’s exactly what I want. I had to google IDGAF, I must be getting old :joy:

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I feel we have just scratched ascensions benefits…I mean we have not fully allowed the sub to take full effect…I think 6 months will allow the sub to peak with its benefits…

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Haven’t had experience with Primal Seduction and Spartan but they look like a solid combination, both are oriented around similar goals.

I believe Emperor and Khan is more compatible compared to Stark, do keep in mind that both of em are very dense programs, so it’ll be though in the beginning, especially if you add in Quantum Limitless as well. If you’re completely new with these programs I wouldn’t recommend it, but you’re free to experiment, I’m just saying that if you’re on a budget it will be likely that you’ll end up creating another Custom under the influence of reconciliation / not receiving the results you expected.

Ascension & Stark go really well together, I feel like Stark is more a neutral Archetype and Ascension adds that masculinity to it. Ascension is a really focused subliminal and brings very instant results, at least it did for me and many others have reported similar observations. I loved Ascension because I constantly had this urge to improve myself, Ascension worked so well on me that I was literally motivating myself to take action every single second of the day.

Ascension really transmutes you into all you can be, and magnetically attracts you to become this person. I had past experience with Ascended Mogul and my experiences we’re similar, do take into account that I’m only grasping at what Ascension is capable of since I only ran it for three days.

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Good point, this is the sole reason that I do not use any Alpha or Masculinity based subliminal’s, I prefer to be above that, as I do not like to engage in low vibrational behavior. These subliminal’s really start to shift your unconscious behavior patterns and before you know it you’re having power over others. The divine masculine has been unbalanced for a long time here on Earth.

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I’ve run every Emperor from v1 to v4, khan for about 6 months.
Emperor always got me super focused on getting things done - with a more short sighted view. Honestly I do think it was one of the main reasons I got a VP promotion: it makes you a machine!
Khan was ok, much more relaxed and chill, but lost the focus.

I’m right now about 1 month in a new stack: stark + primal. This is hands down: idgaf attitude, masculine, gets you focused on long term( definitely reduced my work drive for) but I started to put on paper plans to build my own business etc

Maybe give primal/stark a go…

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Have you run Emperor/Emperor Q and did you experience something similar on that?

Thank you for the feedback,
I’m still sitting on, rationalizing, and intuiting the best way to proceed.
I am a little torn between the safe route and the gangbusters route
I’ve run Emperor for 3 months
and will be running Khan Stage 1 in my first custom subliminal alongside non name embedded emperor for another month or two.
I’m not looking to throw away money but I have some cash to drop on subs.

I’ll most likely be doing 4 cores for my first custom sub-Emperor Fitness and Spartan seem synergistic, slap a mosiac in there and I should be good to go :wink:

My first sub cores will be

  1. Khan Stage 1
  2. Emperor Fitness Stage 4
  3. Spartan
  4. Primal Seduction

and my second sub cores will be

  1. Khan Stage 4
  2. Emperor
  3. Quantum Limitless

Diffusion can happen but with the right results enhancers and unifying purpose I believe there can be a cohesion.

Yes, I have. My preference goes to Ascension or Ascended Mogul, Emperor will have similar effects as it is build out of Ascension, yet it is different.

Two Customs and 7 different cores? Do you really think this will give you a fluent experience, hence give you results at all? Go for the save route, take one Major subliminal; Stark, Emperor or any of the multi-stages and then add some of the smaller cores to it if you want additional enhancements, preferable cores that sustain each other.

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I appreciate the input and will take it into real consideration.
I still want to feel really excited and intuitively ON about my choice.

I won’t be running the customs at the same time until they’ve both been run solo

Saint said two customs could be used together like any major subliminal program. They were designed for that-2-3 to be run at a time.

I cannot begin to express how life changing Emperor has been and that’s a big program, so seems I taking well to large subs.

Also running Spartan, Mind’s Eye, and GM aside it and results and going up and up

The only deviation from the recommendation I’ll be breaking, if I do, would be an additional core.

Emperor -has 4 cores-Emperor, Ascension, Mogul, Sex Mastery,

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Nice that’s exactly what I need right now. I also remember another thread having lots of positive things to say about ascension a couple weeks ago. It sounds like a solid one to start a foundation upon and that is my general focus on this custom Q I’m making. I’m feeling really excited about my build now.

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@SaintSovereign How / Why does ascended Mogul affect me negatively where as emperor affects positively.
Isn’t emperor an expanded version of Ascended modul plus more?

For context,

Just my thinking…
It could be the Emperor is too far off from your reality. So probably stonewalling. Where as AM is working deeply removing or surfacing all those blocks and negatives.

Another way of looking at it would be that AM is showing you what needs to be worked on to achieve your dreams.

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That’s interesting.
Reading your comments, I gave it a thought.

It came to my mind that on emperor, I maintained a displined study time everyday. Today, on AM, I haven’t studied at all and I don’t even want to attend my class.

Your thoughts are invaluable… Thanks

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Interesting update… @SaintSovereign
I usually keep headphone time only for ultima, but I put on E Q2 mask on my headphones… As I am writing, my anxiety is fading away. EQ2 masked almost working like an ultima.

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@aaa how have your alpha subs been going?

Here’s my final assessment

Emperor-6 months to accomplish a specific clear goal(s)
Stark-6 -12 months to go from no clarity to bringing a crystal clear vision/dream to life
Khan-6 months to live

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Thank you for this, it solidifies my commitment to Stark.

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What module in q store gives this?

This might be a support ticket question.

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