Emperor: relationships with women

For the ones who run Emperor more than 3 months and have one or more stable relationships: how does Emperor affect your relationship?

I’m not talking about picking up new girls, I’m not talking about puppy eyes from strangers on the street. Not attraction: an ongoing, non-platonic relationship(girlfriends, wife, mistress, fuck buddy, etc) and what happens when adding Emperor.

My experience is not that great: connection gradually either disappears or at least decreases, I have moments when I’m discontent because she’s not as driven as me. I think the issues are created by me, by not being interested to connect anymore, dismiss any activity that is not directly supporting my short time goals, and super focus on delivering tasks. All this driving her to lose attraction.

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Not related to emperor…
I found this happening on all the alpha subs that i have used.(ascension and khan & AM).
I think its us that loses that attraction for them(the partner). As you status is rising as well. Also i always remember that i am running subs and not them. So they will not grow or be close to you interms of productivity etc.

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For me the experience with Khan is the exact opposite: every time I’m surprised to see how much in love and in lust are the women in my life. I know to expect it, but… every time :smiley: I believe it’s from Primal part of Khan, and currently testing that theory.

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Which stage was this…

Stage 4. I only run other stages the first time (and a short run of ST1 recently), but I see no reason why not to use ST4 long term.

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Both times I’ve run Emperor and any other sub designed to increase status, dominance, or self esteem, my wife has freaked out on me at first. My working theory is that she sees my value increasing and either sees it as a threat to her being “in charge” of the relationship or is afraid that I’ll find someone “better”.
Either way, she seems to try to “put me back in my place”. This takes the form of increased criticism, domineering behavior, anger when I don’t give in to the domineering behavior, and called me arrogant, ect. If she knows that I’m on a dominance sub, she’ll say it’s turning me into an “arrogant ass” and try to get me to stop.
I seem to be getting to the other side of that this time though,

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I’ll agree on that. I have definitely lost physical attraction to my wife while on Dragon Emperor. I still love her, but she’s physically deteriorated (no fault of her own) and at this point, I keep thinking that I could have done better if I’d realized some things and made some changes that I am now earlier in life.

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Thats exactly how i feel lol

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COWolfe is on point. :neutral_face:

I’m a bit surprised about the criticism part: when I run Emperor(after one month or so), there is not way a women in my life would dare to criticize me. They always become ultra submissive, with a deep respect coming out of fear.

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Actually, what I think the sub is doing is attacking my “take what I can get” scarcity mindset. Before I started improving myself, I would feel very lucky to get with any woman who’d have me because in the first eighteen years of my life, I convinced myself that no girl would ever have me. Since then, there have been mountains of evidence to the contrary, but that notion had stayed with me to some extent anyway.

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Have any of them been used to taking their bad moods out on you at will for twenty years? People who are close to you usually experience some dissonance when you make radical changes quickly.
It’s no surprise to me, and she does seem to be getting over the adjustment period.

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Here’s my take on this. Theory and what I’ve seen from experience with myself and others.

Men are in general stronger and more dangerous physically than woman. Status, strength, testosterone, aggression can, and not wrongfully so, be seen as threats to a woman’s security and/or safety. Woman will seek to control the environment in whatever way they can when they feel this threat or unsafe.

If a woman you are with is used to being in their feminine, respecting you as a man, and in general feeling trust and guidance by your presence more often than not, an Alpha sub will increase their femininity, and level of ‘surrender’. If I woman is used to expecting and/or demanding equality or running the ship themselves, a sub that causes increase in status/Alpha will cause kick back unless the level of trust can be rapidly developed to match.

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@lovage - would recommend adding Power Can Corrupt to Emperor. PCC will boost your relationship skills and also help you not waste time on those who aren’t important to your success journey. PCC is a comparitively lighter sub too

Have detailed a review here:

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I haven’t run Emperor yet…but I have Stark in my custom…now scrolling through all the posts …I realised that…the emperor script seems taking place right now…I become less interested in chasing women and I qualify them a lot …and usually with one talk or two I will have a hunch whether they are right fit for me…and the alone wolf vibe is strong…I put my personal goals before women and have no interest to settle down for any woman…and I could totally feel at ease and happy being alone…no boredom whatsoever…

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Hmm, interesting, I’ll read up on that. At first sight though, it seems it would exacerbate even more my (perceived) issue: lack of interest in a relationship. I’ll do a more in-depth read of your journal.

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That’s a good point, I was always adamant about not allowing bad energy around me, unless the issue was real, not “bad mood”.
Happy to hear things are working out this time!

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Re-opening this thread to get more stories

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@lovage right now i am still with the french bird i met in the street i was on emperor that time and still am.

She is always submissive around me. Previous relationships girl were submissive. I dont know why but some girls i met and dated they would become short tempered when i was on emperor.

Perhaps because they could not control me.

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You go, titan!