Does anyone have overexposure manifest as too much inward focus?

[aaa]

Your mind’s not broken. It’s just busy and it wants a break. Do something purely physical to force your mind to reboot (sprint, cold plunge, tactile sensations). Have you also tried spacing out your micro loops even more?

Also, your diet might play a role.if you’re low on fats or minerals, your brain’s resources for this kind of deep processing can run dry faster. Try to eat more raw fish.

Edit: Fish (especially fatty fish like salmon, sardines, and mackerel) are rich in EPA and DHA, which are essential for brain cell fluidity and signaling. These fats help the brain process information more smoothly and can reduce the “stuck” feeling.

[Titiba]

Hello
Do you mind sharing your stack?

[Fractal_Explorer]

@aaa

Have you also tried spacing out your micro loops even more?

I haven’t tried this yet. I think I’m going to give myself a break for a few days and then try it out. Thanks for the other suggestions.

@Titiba

Hello
Do you mind sharing your stack?

Currently I’m running Seductress and Aegis.

[Titiba]

Have you ever used E:E?

[Fractal_Explorer]

Nope, I never got a chance to try it. I wanted to but I can only run 2 titles. And right now both of these kind of take priority over anything else.

[Titiba]

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Just one thing I forgot to add:
It’s really abnormal to have a large amount of recon or any while listening to 30 seconds. The 15 minute loops of ZPv1 which is much more older than this tech was tested with multiple tester and two loops every other day was recommended. This is not an invitation for overexposure, but rather addressing the brain chemistry issue with E:E or medications, preferably the former one.
There was a time I had SSRI, wellbutrin, Propranolol and one other antidepressant which covered all the major neurotransmitters for 6 months. But it was nothing like E:Eor even QL maybe. I was tired, sleepy, prone to overwighting and very very lazy.

[Fractal_Explorer]

Hmmmmm I guess I have been in a rut lately. Can’t hurt to try.

Even back in qv2 days I couldn’t go beyond one loop. So there’s always been something peculiar with my threshold for this stuff

[Sub.Zero]

Dude, it’s not overexposure — this is just how ZP works. It only got more pronounced on the newer tech (included in Seductress) as every upgrade makes subs hit deeper. What you described is just processing, and you can’t avoid it. You can minimize it by lowering the exposure, but what’s the point, apart from avoiding the symptoms that feel unpleasant to you?

I personally experienced the difference between processing and execution the most on my last washout (I was running subs including the new recon tech):

@Sub.Zero

On the fourth day of my washout, I see a huge shift in my focus—from thorough introspecting, reconciling, and integrating to executing and improving my ‘external baseline.’ The difference in that regard is much more pronounced than it was on the older tech.

Perhaps you just need to do washouts more often — it really makes a difference.

[Titiba]

Just wanna say yes, wahsouts and breaks from are ALWAYS the answer, but uf you wanna speed up your reconciliation, you need to enhance your brain chemistry. Depending on your level of brain helath and normality, the pace of evolution with subs can differ like 10000 times. Like 1 km/hour or 10000km/hour, not even joking maybe even more for me. Ain’t no way I’m missing out on that difference.

[Yazooneh]

Honestly it’s kinda like soreness from the gym, you’re oddly weaker in your pursuit to being stronger. If you want to execute more of the script then allow more rest between loops as to have an reconciliation phase in which you restructure your perspective closer to home, and then once the storm settles, go for action…

If you think that a micro loop a week is too little you’re super wrong, any exposure to the script will touch on the deepest parts of your mind to cause real change, and so you might benefit more by adding some days to execute after reconciliation (which could last days if the script is new)

[Fractal_Explorer]

It’s disruptive to my life, that’s the problem I face. It’s not about avoidance, it’s just not something that I feel benefits me. If I can run a sub and receive 10% improvement without being pulled towards this heavy introspection vs 30% improvement but constantly being pulled inward, I’m choosing the 10%. My goal with subs moving forward is to stop being aware of how they work or the intricacies of how it unfolds in my mind. I’ve learned for me that’s a detriment more than an aid.

[Tomcat]

Washout is an answer here.

I understand what you saying and its freaked me out, I even stopped listening to subs at all.

Washout is the only answer.

[Sub.Zero]

The thing is, your transliminality seems to be quite high. While this can be a significant advantage when working with powerful tools like subliminals, it can also become a disadvantage— and that seems to be the case for you. Your mind appears to struggle with the content delivered by the subs, which is always interpreted through the lens of our unique ZP.

In your case, due to your heightened transliminality, you’re able to absorb and process more of that content—but it may become overwhelming during the reconciliation and integration phases. I see two possible reasons for why you might feel overwhelmed when processing.

First, you might simply be overanalyzing the content and how it’s being reconciled and integrated. Second, this experience could be pointing to deeper underlying issues that need to be addressed before you’re able to process the current content more effectively.

If it’s overanalyzing, that could suggest a hyperactive mind. In this case, using sedative techniques or tools could be helpful in calming mental activity. If it’s deeper issues, then the best course would be to work on those first—either before continuing with your target scripting, or in parallel, using supportive methods (not necessarily subliminals) that can help you work through those issues.

Keep in mind that ZP fosters and amplifies transliminality. The only way to reduce that effect would be to go back to Q, but doing so would also mean giving up the powerful benefits that ZP offers—or switching to a different producer altogether.

[Viktor]

@Fractal_Explorer

It’s disruptive to my life, that’s the problem I face. It’s not about avoidance, it’s just not something that I feel benefits me. If I can run a sub and receive 10% improvement without being pulled towards this heavy introspection vs 30% improvement but constantly being pulled inward, I’m choosing the 10%.

It’s the same with me.
If it’s disrupting me from my goals, then it’s out.
Whether you want to take it fast or slow, it will work out either way.

If you prefer a smoother experience, then go for it. I find it working better for me too.
In fact, I wish I had taken it even more smoothly with subs, regardless of the outcome percentage.

[Parsifal]

Does this only happen with titles that dig deep, like Seductress?

If yes, perhaps it would help to run a title like Limitless or QL to boost your subliminal processing.

Two cycles might then already be enough to boost your system enough to make it easier to process Seductress.
In the long run it would give faster results even if it means to pause Seductress for a couple of cycles.

[Fractal_Explorer]

@Sub.Zero

If it’s overanalyzing, that could suggest a hyperactive mind. In this case, using sedative techniques or tools could be helpful in calming mental activity. If it’s deeper issues, then the best course would be to work on those first—either before continuing with your target scripting, or in parallel, using supportive methods (not necessarily subliminals) that can help you work through those issues.

Keep in mind that ZP fosters and amplifies transliminality. The only way to reduce that effect would be to go back to Q, but doing so would also mean giving up the powerful benefits that ZP offers—or switching to a different producer altogether.

I am already doing a lot besides subliminals and most of what you’ve advised here.

If what you say is true then I guess I have to try to find a different producer.

Here’s my predicament. I’m just tired. Life is short, I don’t have time to be experimenting with different loop lengths and listening schedules. I’m not opposed to deeper work on an emotional level, I’ve never turned away from that. But a lack of predictability at this stage in my life is incredibly costly. I can’t keep gambling with that. I need to know how to use my tools and right now it feels like I don’t. Unfortunately there isn’t a solid set of instructions for best use for my mind.

@Viktor

If you prefer a smoother experience, then go for it. I find it working better for me too.
In fact, I wish I had taken it even more smoothly with subs, regardless of the outcome percentage.

What’s your listening schedule like?

@Parsifal

Does this only happen with titles that dig deep, like Seductress?

If yes, perhaps it would help to run a title like Limitless or QL to boost your subliminal processing.

Two cycles might then already be enough to boost your system enough to make it easier to process Seductress.
In the long run it would give faster results even if it means to pause Seductress for a couple of cycles.

I can’t say for certain. But I’ve run Sanguine in isolation for a bit and noticed the same behavior. I guess I could try QL. But I run into my same issue of loop length and exposure amount and determining what’s best for me.

[Sub.Zero]

There’s hope in the form of the new recon tech. Have you tried it yet? If not, give it a shot as it helps with reconciliation tremendously.

[Parsifal]

Also, since eit was mentioned that Q tech might be easier on your mind, next season we’re on the road to union. And union combines ZP with Q, so perhaps you’ll have an easier time with ZPU.

[Fractal_Explorer]

@Sub.Zero

There’s hope in the form of the new recon tech. Have you tried it yet? If not, give it a shot as it helps with reconciliation tremendously.

I haven’t. I’ll take a look today to see if there’s any way I can incorporate it. Saint said it’s eventually going into Executive which would be nice.

@Parsifal

Also, since eit was mentioned that Q tech might be easier on your mind, next season we’re on the road to union. And union combines ZP with Q, so perhaps you’ll have an easier time with ZPU.

Fingers crossed. But realistically I shouldn’t put my faith in waiting for stuff like that because it sets the expectation in my head I can’t use what I currently have now.

[Tomcat]

Let me guess. You push yourself for faster results, right?