Discussion: On the Nature of Zero Point

[Saiyan4Blue]

@Malkuth

And it becomes clear that ‘RECONCILIATION’ is actually one of the purposes of running a subliminal.

Very true. Without really trying to overcomplicate or make up new words, i am curious what your thoughts are on repetative recon. As in, the type that contiues to ” stick ” long term. The type that can often be avoided by taking action or doing what the user knows they should.

For example. When i do things on time i feel great, when i let things for ” tomorrow ” i begin to to slowly feel guilt and that guilt often triggers repetative recon that varies in degree about things ive allready overcome.

The anti recon in DD:TS has been efficent in negating it

[Malkuth]

@Saiyan4Blue

The anti recon in DD:TS has been efficent in negating it

That is great!

I realized that my above post would benefit from some clarification.

There is the reconciliation between the different levels of my own mind. I have been working with that for many years. Since way before I ever encountered these amazing resources at Subliminal Club. This is why I meditate.

That is the reconciliation that I think is the purpose of the subs. The subs aid in this ongoing integration (or ‘reconciliation’) of mind.

But then there’s the specific reconciliation of your mind with the stimulus of the subliminals themselves. And that is the kind that people are usually talking about. With every successive iteration and upgrade and refinement of the subliminals, the stimulus is able to be integrated ever more smoothly, organically, and effectively.

For me, the processes of my own mind take precedence over whatever is contributed by the subliminals. I’ve been dealing with the peaks and valleys of integration, cultivation, and mind engagement for a long time. I’m not impressive, but I have logged many hours. I’m suspecting that that’s why I might not experience much recon (the subliminal-specific second kind) with the subs. Or more accurately, why I might not notice it as much.

I’ve used all the build strengths over these years, and in general they have been pretty smooth to work with. (With a few pointed exceptions.haha.)

To me, your experience and your point make complete sense. And I’m very happy that the new anti-recon tech is working so well for you!

[Furkan]

@SaintSovereign

A crucial aspect of this understanding is recognizing that your inner world—your thoughts, emotions, and deeper, often unconscious motivations—must be in harmony with your outer world—the realm of your physical actions, environment, and everyday life.

If I had this I wouldn’t need subliminals

[SaintSovereign]

True. But the article said to recognize this fact, not that you already needed to have achieved it.

[Malkuth]

@Furkan

If I had this I wouldn’t need subliminals

Forget having it, just knowing about it can help you to avoid many big mistakes.

Never underestimate the value of a worthy organizing principle.

We navigate by means of stars that we will never physically reach. Yet they still help us to find our way when we are utterly lost.

[James]

Don’t you have a background in Linguistics?

If I recall you mentioned it before

[SaintSovereign]

I studied linguistics in graduate school, yes. Along with rhetoric, logic and reason.

[Iceman]

did you ever study speech acts in your linguistic course?

[SaintSovereign]

@Iceman

did you ever study speech acts in your linguistic course?

We focused more on what would be considered the more “scientific” side of linguistics: syntax, phonetics, etc.

[h1ren]

This is fundamentally my way of doing & working any “self help” modalities.

Of course, I’m cognizant of what I’m getting into (whether it’s listening to a certain subliminal or doing some kind of energy work or whatever), but I let the results manifest the best possible way it can. I don’t expect/demand how it must show up in my life.

If any expectation I have, it’s simply of protection. Which is inbuilt within the SC titles.

[RockyHandsome]

You are the Zero Point the real you before before all the negative beliefs and bad programming sets in.

[anon78457040]

Perhaps there are only two directions in our inner flow (our mind’s workings): one is our consciousness submerging itself into our subconscious (introspection), and the other is the content of our subconscious emerging into our consciousness (revelations).

The current anti-recon tech has made submersion (introspection) much easier by improving our transliminality. It has made working with the mind both safer and more effective—safer, since recon has a negative impact on us, and more effective, since the results are more pronounced and consistent.

On the other hand, revelations—the content of our subconscious emerging into our consciousness—are far more powerful in how they shift the mind. The main drawback is that they can be overwhelming and potentially perilous.

Submersion is gradual, as if we were divers slowly descending into the cold, dark ocean—exploring its depths (our subconscious).

Emerging is like burning rubbish in a fireplace: the more we throw into the fire, the more potent and dangerous it becomes. The more content is revealed to us, the more powerful we become—yet it can be perilous if done at the wrong pace.

Just a few thoughts.

[SaintSovereign]

@anon78457040

one is our consciousness submerging itself into our subconscious (introspection), and the other is the content of our subconscious emerging into our consciousness (revelations).

You’re starting to get it. This type of introspection will greatly enhance your ZPU results. Now (from my perspective), reflect this concept one level higher into the relationship between the collective and the individual, and you’ll start understand your “low level recon” idea more.

In this scenario, the collective (society and the collective shadow) serves as the subconscious, the individual serving as the conscious mind.

With Zero Point, everyone, its unconscious impulse being refined through conscious effort. When one can consciously understand this and take proper action, it results will skyrocket. In the mean time, just continue to take action and eventually, this will happen naturally.

[anon78457040]

@SaintSovereign

Now (from my perspective), reflect this concept one level higher into the relationship between the collective and the individual, and you’ll start understand your “low level recon” idea more.

Perhaps it’s important to understand the clash in our subconscious between what is originally ours (stemming from our “genetics”—your inborn potential and real proclivities) and what has been inculcated by society (traumas, shadow suppression, etc.). It may be that this very clash causes low-level recon, since ZP is about cultivating everything that is originally us while dismantling everything that is not.

Introspection helps us discern our authentic self—our inborn potential and true proclivities—from the societal programming inculcated in us, and it allows us to nurture that self by feeding it with the right fuel: our genuine intent and its fulfillment through proper action.

Revelations emerging from our subconscious—even if they are rooted in societal programming inculcated in us—may still hold value, as they often draw upon collective wisdom. On the other hand, when these revelations are instead grounded in our uniqueness (the subconscious content emerging from our “genetics”), they not only carry their own worth but also add to that collective wisdom in us, enriching us and helping us live more fully in alignment with our true potential and authentic self.

Is it the union between our uniqueness—our inborn potential and true proclivities, discovered through introspection and nourished by proper action—and the revelations of collective wisdom that holds the key?

[SaintSovereign]

@anon78457040

Is it the union between our uniqueness—our inborn potential and true proclivities, discovered through introspection and nourished by proper action—and the revelations of collective wisdom that holds the key?

Yes, exactly. And we call the point that stands in the center of these two poles the “Zero Point.” It is the place where subconscious impulse and conscious action merges into one. Where collective shadow and wisdom meets the individual.

And at the Zero Point, we are no longer split between what we inherit and what we create. Where the individual’s hidden impulses, once unconscious and chaotic, becomes clear through conscious action and direction.

This is why we are investing so much into the anti-recon scripting. The individual who can listen to their inner voice with precision becomes a master over recon, as it’s telling you exactly what holds you back from achieving your goals. Recon isn’t just a random phenomena, it’s more of a response to stimulus, and if you pay attention to the emotions that rises during recon, you can get a sense of what needs to be overcome to open space for new ideas and a new way of living.

For those who have already walked far along the path of self-discovery—who have tasted real growth—this perspective begins to widen naturally. First – the focus is inward: one’s own shadows, one’s own impulses, one’s own potential. But as clarity deepens, the boundary between the personal and the collective begins to blur. The individual notices that the unconscious patterns they wrestle with are not theirs alone, but reflections of larger, shared undercurrents moving through humanity itself.

And this – I believe – is what you’re calling low-level recon.

[anon78457040]

Perhaps low-level recon stems from the chaos within—or perhaps it is simply that we are now able to perceive and experience this chaos more consciously—our confused shadow, which does not know how to express itself (and the potential it longs to unlock and express) in a way that does not clash with the collective wisdom inculcated in us. This uncertainty may give rise to a fear of transgression beyond collective unconscious, leading to suppression, which in turn forms our shadow and keeps it locked in the first place.

The anti-recon scripting seems to help us embrace the chaos within and cut through its confusion, so to speak, allowing us to make much more sense of it and, in turn, helping us guide our shadow toward a more conscious expression—one that is ultimately subjected to our will.

Perhaps, to deal with the fear of transgression—which suppresses our shadow—it is essential to align its expression with the collective wisdom we have acquired (and continue to acquire), enriched by our personalized wisdom gained through our own individual experience. By collective wisdom, I mean universal truths that keep us anchored amidst the chaos of the universe and help us debunk the many fallacies that hinder us.

I understand transgression that leads to our personal growth as the expansion of our vision of what is possible, of what we are capable of, and the breaking free from the box in which our mental and behavioral patterns keep us locked.

[Judoka]

Since you said that the technology itself is the main focus right (im assuming working on zpu ofc) how long do you think is left before a fully fledged zpu title

[HeroicDragon]

Im learning as Igo, even adding inner voice to a custom im working on, but during this cycle, 1 minute id be happy and relaxed, next minute id have some dark thoughts or feel negativity. The thing is when that happens now, first thing I catch myself saying to myself is this is not my voice, this is not my thought, and also there is less emotion going to those thoughts and I dont begin feeling sad.

[SaintSovereign]

@Judoka

Since you said that the technology itself is the main focus right (im assuming working on zpu ofc) how long do you think is left before a fully fledged zpu title

That depends. We still need more information on things like anti-recon. But, I’m hoping early next year.

[SaintSovereign]

@anon78457040

Perhaps, to deal with the fear of transgression—which suppresses our shadow—it is essential to align its expression with the collective wisdom we have acquired (and continue to acquire), enriched by our personalized wisdom gained through our own individual experience. By collective wisdom, I mean universal truths that keep us anchored amidst the chaos of the universe and help us debunk the many fallacies that hinder us.

Well, this is why we focus so much on resilience scripting. The ability to stand firm in your own truth against outdated collective structures and idea. With the overt dominance scripting that’s so requested, you’re philosophically trying to wage war against the collective itself, which will inevitably fail. Through resilience – or joyful stoicism, like GLM – one simply lets those collective currents smash against them, while they remain rooted in achieving their goals.

The goal is not external validation, or temporary fame, but true and authentic expression of one’s Zero Point. The space between collective idea and individual will. The space between subconscious impulse and conscious action.