Changing into something more

Journals - Major Programs
#1

Consider this half journal and half inquiry, but, just what is in Khan…? What are its goals?

Sure, with Khan, it gave me unfathomable confidence, I can get with any girl I want, instantly, it’s as if my mind was has been possessed by a conqueror of the past.

But… Apparently, it scares away certain type of girls that I really want to be with.
It’s as if Khan, and I believe another user has already mentioned this, turns you into a ruthless bastard that doesn’t care to listen to her stories and whatever.

I can understand though. Because, a Khan isn’t about to give all of himself to a woman to have her, he’s going to give 5%'s of himself to the women in his life, while they give all of themselves to him. Whilst you see the average man giving all of himself to retain one woman in his life.

I feel so stressed. I want to cry. Khan, apparently, does not tolerate anyone playing games; I put women straight the moment they dare play any game, accompanied with extreme charisma and overall sexuality; and that… intimidates them, scares them off.

I feel kinda hurt, like, I guess this is my fault, perhaps I’m being a baby and need to realize that with a Khan lifestyle, only certain women will fit in it… But ugh… I think I fancy myself as a romantic. I feel distraught.

What do the Khans and the developers of this forum have to say?

And oh, if you noticed verbal fluency, that’s Renaissance man, lmao, subclub is truly magical.

Renaissance man, has given me this absurdly uncanny ability to sense what others are thinking. Truly. It is is just so… oof. You see, I already have had these latent abilities of verbal fluency and knowing what others are thinking lying within me, but they were sort of scattered… these subliminals seem to bring them together and put them for me on a silver platter.

It has also massively enhanced my ability to overall read people and their aura. What a marvelous title!

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#2

Welcome to the forum

Later in the year, they are going to put objectives in the description.

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#4

Have you considered using Khan + Renaissance Man with any other titles? Like say, Heartsong, Daredevil, Power Can Corrupt, etc. This is an interesting problem, did you used to care about what stories people tell you or has this always been an issue for you, now magnified?

I know there are some store modules in the Quintessence store that could help you but then you’d have to build a Custom. I will let others who are more experienced maybe share their suggestions of the store bought titles for your purposes.

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#5

I would ask myself: do I really want to be with someone that plays games? If not - then Khan is EXACTLY what you want to get what you want.
If you want to be with someone that plays games… ask yourself why would you accept that?

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#6

No man should be listening to her stories. That’s what her girlfriends are for. :joy:

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#7

What stage are you currently listening to?

How long did you listen to stage 1?

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#9

@Mourn

Please read this carefully.

I’m having a difficult time understanding what you are doing.

Think of a plan. I realize some people want to come here and change everything at once, but that can take time.

What do you want?

1 In 100 words or less, please clearly and specifically state what you want.

2 When you get a multi-stage program, please start with stage 1.

3 Whatever you decide to do for subliminals, please follow the guidelines and stay with your playlist for 90 day minimum.

Please write a plan, and prepare to get ideas from people.

@StateOfBeing @Simon @Beowulf @lovage thank you for being here.

@Lion @Malkuth @Brandon if you would please…

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#10

Yes DR ST1 is much more all encompassing than Khan ST1 but Dragon Reborn isn’t recommended as a first subliminal.

So if you plan to do Khan, do consider starting from Khan ST1. Something like:

Month 1: Khan ST1
Month 2: Khan ST2 + RM
Month 3: Khan ST3 + RM
Month 4: Khan ST4 + RM

And do listen to @RVconsultant 's advice. Follow instructions to the letter. Especially good for beginners. There will always be time to experiment later.

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#11

Thank you for adding this!

When you check this thread again, @Mourn please re-read the whole thread. We want you to succeed.

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#12

@Mourn , do yourself a favor and read the instructions, dude. Your future self will thank you sincerely.

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#13

Then use Heartsong, not Khan. :wink:

Should go really well with RM. :+1:t2:

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#14

Over time these results will naturalize and you’ll get greater control over it. Right now you might be doing Khan-like things and wondering where that came from.

It sounds like Khan is doing it’s magic. You’re worried about the girls who don’t respond to you the way you want them to. Khan will heal you more unt you get to the point where you laugh because that’s THEIR loss not YOUR loss.

I wouldn’t add on other titles right now. Not until you realize you have unlimited abundance and the perfect girls will come from that place of abundance. You’re still a bit focused on the scarcity, on the ones that got away. That’s what ST1/2 will heal.

Good job :slight_smile:

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#15

Can confirm this is the case after over a half year on Khan

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#16

You’ll have to define what you mean by “game” here. If you mean they’re being inconsiderate and disrespectful towards you, then that’s obviously not a bad thing to do.

I would actually suggest some Q store modules that might help. Way of Understanding, Empath, Mercy Protocol, Transcendental Connection, Love Connection with a Heartsong core would be useful to help make you more compassionate and to be more understanding of the women you would like to seduce. Add on top any seduction modules you want and I think you’d be happy.

And I’d recommend sending a support ticket for an official answer, would be interesting to hear what suggestions they’d give you.

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#18

I think you’re just in a growing pain and you should stick it out.

Your old lifestyle can’t sustain how fast you’re growing and how alpha you’re becoming. But it’s paving the way for a NEW lifestyle where you WILL have an environment full of people that can handle it.

Not only will they handle it, they’ll respect you for it, encourage your growth, and want you to grow even MORE.

Imagine it when your life is so in tune with who you are that if you a girl out for playing games with you, she later apologizes to you for acting badly, and then begs you to make up with her.

You get to be 100% your true self and everyone else has to adapt to meet YOUR standards.

Right now though, your friends are conditioned to have their way with you. They are pushing back against you because THEY used to be the boss now YOU’RE becoming the boss.

A big symptom of reconciliation is the desire to switch subs.

Don’t switch. You’ll be fine.

If you need, just start listening to one less loop per week until the results have naturalized a little bit more.

And make you spend an appropriate amount of time on stage 1 before moving onto stage 2, and likewise for stage 3/4.

If you haven’t listened to stage 1 for 40-60 days, and if you haven’t listened to stage 2 for 40-60 days, you’re definitely not ready for stage 3/4!

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#19

This is definitely good advice.

By the way, I have to state, I’ve listened to Emperor for over 4 months beforehand. And its as you said, everyone respected me, used kind words with me, everything I said, went. It was so normal, I didn’t even think anything of it. Lmaooo.

Right now though, your friends are conditioned to have their way with you. They are pushing back against you because THEY used to be the boss now YOU’RE becoming the boss.

The thing is, this isn’t it. For me to be the boss, I need to tone down my ego, it’s pissing people off.

Hmm, so yeah this is more of a me problem than the subliminal, but the bigger the Alpha sub, the harder it is to control your ego.

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#20

I wasn’t listening to subs at this time, but, I was in a similar situation once.

I discovered “radical honesty/masculine directness/thebteuth”… whatever you want to call it.

So I would “tell the truth” like a dick and drop it like a hammer.

It was just putting people off rather than making me more liked, or more respected.

I did it to be more “honest” but I wasn’t even accomplishing that. I just used “the truth” to call out people that pissed me off.

But it turned out to be okay in the end because I kept on working with my understanding of how to be “always honest” and eventually it naturalized.

Now I can always tell it to people how it is… but I know how to do it gently, how to do it appropriately, when to not do it, etc.

My point is that when I first learned a new concept, I grafted towards it and started using it ALL THE TIME, and pissed people off.

But eventually I learned to control it, and used it more sparingly. Then I got the respect and confidence I wanted as a result.

Khan is the exact same way.

There’s something in khan that’s new to you so you’re using it all the time to practice and assimilate it. All the extra power and dominance are new, so, you’re overdoing it. Clumsy application of a skill is a sign that you’re still learning it.

But eventually you’ll get to the point where you know when to hold back and be friendly, but when someone is playing serious games with you and totally disrespecting you, you’ll know how to completely put them in their place… and then go right back to being well liked and admired

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#21

Here’s my theories

  1. From my understanding you didn’t run stage 1
    You should run stage 1 if that’s the case
    your executing the majesty of khan on your old foundation
    no wonder there is a dissonance/ confusion.

The part of you -you needed to heal to congruently act on Khan never got addressed.
So your pushing people away and then feeling at a loss.

Because the part of you that never got dealt with in total break down is the part that would rather have romance, love, and connection, even at a compromise or manipulation towards you.

Now if you literally just can’t work things out with people and are over reacting -then you may be going through reconciliation

which is theory 2

  1. Your going through reconciliation. Ego inflation, intensity, aggression, and energy added to insecurities, neurosis, anxieties, emotional distress is in my view very much how reconciliation shows up these days.

Hope some of that helps, and if not chuck it :slight_smile:

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#22

Ok, this was really good, I liked it. I in fact came to a bit of a similar conclusion yesterday.

Thank you.

Yup, Khan magnified my weaknesses and lack of growth. And made it erupt to the surface like a volcano, so that they can be worked on, I suppose.

Furthermore, I have been using the subliminals as a bit of a crutch for confidence boosts to suppress whatever neuroticism any situation might make me feel, just using the force that comes from the sub to get what I want and ignoring any opportunity for growth, I need to go a bit slower. lol

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#23

yes I’ve done this as well, the subs are strong enough to carry one through, but the internal growth still needs to be addressed consciously to some degree.

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