Dense custom listening time

I have a pretty dense custom, with WB and SSX cores. I haven’t run a custom before, so would it be advised to just go the full 15 minutes and see how I feel? Or start slow and low?

start slow, with 1:30 minutes. see how it goes.

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Definitly start with microloops. A good start is 3 min, then try 5, 7:30 or 10 etc. This is especially important if you dont have Pragya in your stack.

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@SaintSpring @Saiyan4Blue honestly though sometimes it seems like shorter loops give me MORE recon, has anyone ever said that besides me :thinking:

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i have Pragya in my custom. does it change something? :thinking:

then stay with short loops. on longer loops you will be simply stonewalled.

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Oooh so you’re implying recon is actually good? Damn hopefully I haven’t stonewalled already…

yes, recon means the sub works. it’s like a muscle soar after gym.

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Quick thought:

I read somewhere that I should work out the next day even if my muscles are sore.
But, running subs when u have recon…
Won’t work out.

I’m definitely thinking too deeply about this. :sweat_smile:

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muscle soreness doesn’t say anything about the effectiveness of the workout. at most, it can help you confirm what muscle you hit on your workout. Sub is similar, recon can be useful to see that the sub is working, but it doesn’t tell anything about its effectiveness.

If you work out too much and your body can’t handle it, you’ll get overtraining. it’s just like how you’ll get stonewalled with too much improper exposure to subs.

listen to your body, if it needs extra rest to recover, then rest. if it needs medical attention, then don’t push through the workout and go to a doctor. But don’t be too soft with your body, if it’s just a bit of soreness in the muscles (not tendons, ligaments etc), you can push through it. The human body is resilient. That’s what the quote is trying to say.

I think that’s similar with using subs. a bit of recon is fine, but too much recon to the point where you can’t function well for what you need to do is not good.

yes, recon is better than stonewalling. but less recon is even better. try having more days in between the listening sessions. i tried spacing it out like that with WB, a sub that used to give me recon even with less than 30s, and it works.

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I like this part.

I dont agree wid this.
The sub will work if you run it.
U dont NEED recon to see it.
You just need to be aware of the results (like not gaslight yourself into thinking nothing is happening).

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consider the whole paragraph for the context of the sentence you quoted.

It would be lit if SC had recommended a supplement stack like it is in bodybuilding, pre-workout, regeneration post workout, etc.

Kinda like
Recon supplement stack
Better integration supplement stack

why? recon means that sub’s scripting and your beliefs are wresting.

Why recon can be useful to see that the sub is working? Because recon means that sub’s scripting and your beliefs are wrestling. Just like what you said.


As for why recon doesn’t tell anything about the sub’s effectiveness, it’s because the effectiveness is measured by the result.

Imagine drinking medicine, just because you feel stronger side effects from brand A, doesn’t mean it’s more/less effective than brand B. What you care about is the result.

How impactful is the medicine?
How quick does it work?
How does it affect you long term?
Etc.

well, what I said does not conflict with what you said. Yeah, recon is not a result, but if you’re experiencing a recon, then with enough time give to the sub (and actions in some cases) a new belief settles in your mind, replacing an old one. so, if you’re experiencing recon, it means you are on the way to see results.

Recon , short for reconciliation, shows that your subconsciousness is working with the subs.
It’s reconciling old and new believes.

@Viktor isn’t saying you need recon to see that subs are working, but it’s a signal that it’s doing some work.

Whenever I start working out, I get muscle soreness. But after the initial starting phase, it doesn’t show again.
But if I get soreness later on, it is still a signal that my workout is effective.
But in a reverse conclusion, no soreness wouldn’t mean that there is no progress. I can very well make serious progress without soreness.

Same with subs. Recon shows that the subs are working, or rather that our subconscious is working with the subs.
But again, the reverse conclusion that no recon means no effect isn’t valid.

For me the question would rather be, how to differentiate between recon and overexposure.
I suffered from overexposure for some weeks before I understood what’s going on.

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yes, I do agree.
I think, you guys, misunderstood me.

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Thankyou. You wrote it better than i did.
I should start using RM:UWX soon, rofl :rofl:

It’s hard to describe. The way I figured it out was by using full loops of 2 subs + AC (37m in total) and comparing it with the recon i got when i microlooped WB.

Overexposure feels heavy, but recon can also feel heavy in a different way.

You gotta feel it for yourself.

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I saw you guys saying the same thing in different ways, so I wrote this lengthy response to show you’re arguing for the same position. :slightly_smiling_face::upside_down_face: