DarkPhilosopher needs your help!

Second time you mentioned that. Should I be worried you have a thing for me, bro?

Not you. The hood is sexy af

I’ll tell @GoldenTiger to watch his back then. :wink:

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I’m posting this without accusation, criticism, or judgement.

I wanted to make a brief comment. When I post something, be it joking, cultural reference, cliche, or whatever, even if there’s ā€œnothing meant by itā€. I try to remember there are a variety of people here, and that anything I write is to an audience even if it is in reply to just one person. No one can hear the tone of voice or facial expression I’m wanting to convey with my words.

Although I can’t interpret how any person might react at any given moment, I’ve tried to eliminate references in my speech that might be negatively interpreted regarding stereotypes, religion, skin color, sexual orientation, or sexual behavior.

When I was in college, a friend of mine who was a gay activist recommended I not use ā€œwatch your backā€. Although I’m not perfect, I’ve also tried to avoid mentioning bromance because again it might be construed as making fun of gay people, or something negative as such.

I don’t consider myself to be a social justice warrior or liberal or conservative. I just try to remember that a variety of people will read what I post, and I want that variety of people to feel there is something positive in my intent and message, and feel comfortable and safe being in this forum.

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It must be a limiting understanding on my part, but I unfortunately fail to see what that referred to. So I’m moving back to the very important topic at hand: me! :slight_smile:

I’m inclined to agree, if not for two things.

First, Saint has been running subs for quite some time. And still he periodically creates a special sub to help him heal something specific (like healing something that keeps him from breaking through his perceived wealth ceiling for example). I would say there are times when a focus on healing is necessary. Which brings me to point number 2.

Much like how losing body fat has those plateaus and so-called stubborn fat, can it be that there are certain things that need healing, physically, emotionally or mentally, that a sub focused on something other than healing simply isn’t strong enough to overcome? So one would bump into this seemingly insurmountable obstacle on the way to wealth or relationships, and no matter how long we run the sub, it simply can’t overcome the barrier. Now that wealth or relationship sub needs to hire a specialist that can heal and overcome that issue before it can move on. Or at least build a bridge or tunnel.

Does that make sense?

For me, most healing takes place while working on other things, but I have now identified something very rare that is blocking so many aspects of my life, without knowing what it is specifically and thus being unable to address it consciously, that I feel focusing completely on healing may be the only way to deal with it. Do you think that’s possible?

Somebody’s experience/reality doesn’t have to be your own.

What if this curious issue of yours is not the obstacle that you imagine/define it to be, but rather the way of getting to your desired outcomes? Could that be possible? What would it take to start treating it like that? What if the idea of ā€œhealingā€ may be just another way of not accepting things as they are now? That’s why I questioned the focus on healing. To me, it’s mostly about doing something about something we’re not willing to look at. Healing is simply change, isn’t it? Change is constant. If something is not healing, it thus means that we’re keeping it in place and not letting it go, as is the pattern with everything - it comes and goes. That is also why it is vital not escaping from what is by inventing different ideas to shield ourselves against something we’re afraid of.

If I were to give you my advice, it would be to just sit with this issue. Try to be as present with it as you can, meaning as little mind as possible and as much feeling as possible. You can use thoughts to invoke the feelings, though. While you’re at it, feeling, sense that you exist in spite of what may be coming up. That thing is changeless. That thing is the true you. Not the made up ego stuff that we consider ourselves to be that also seems to be constantly in need of healing. You are unaffected by everything. The quality of your awareness doesn’t change. It is the same as it was 20 years ago. Get really in touch with that and your issue may very well dissolve. Just feel as much as you can and keep in mind you are not those feelings. There’s a distance between you and them. They can’t touch you. You’re already perfect and ā€œhealedā€. You just have to experience that and your perspective will shift.

I apologize if this seems a little harsh or out there, but right now I’m myself in an interesting place and I just don’t take any excuses from myself that make me go into escapism.

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No need to apologize. I always value somebody else’s point of view, including those that are ā€œalienā€ to me.

However, I am an expert on reframing and no matter how I approach it, there is no way I can see rejecting abundance in my life to be of any use at this point. Yes, in the past it may have helped protect me and made me self-sufficient, but years of feeding it has made it grow in strength tremendously and now it is blocking me from accepting anything in my life unless I made it with my own two hands. So if the Universe throws a million bucks at me, delivered by the perfect lover, both mine to keep, I will likely say ā€œNo thanks, I have neither worked for that money or gone through the courtship for that lover.ā€

That simply won’t work anymore for me, I don’t have enough time in the day to work for more than what I have now. I want to find a better way. A way that doesn’t assume a 1 to 1 return ratio. And I am hoping a subliminal can help me or at least help me define the underlying thing and give me the conscious weapons to redefine it into something more productive.

I can tell you I was once very successful in relationships. Just imagine how much time and effort and blood and sweat and tears must have gone into that if I felt I needed to earn every smile and every success. So much that all other areas of my life suffered for it.

I am quite familiar with that. That is exactly why I suggested more feeling, less mind. Mind is the issue maker here, it’s quite obvious. The reframing I was mentioning comes naturally as a result of the shifted perspective through feeling thoroughly the issue. It becomes no longer an issue to work through, though. It disappears or becomes the way.

Well, try the feeling stuff (which you omitted in your reply). At first, it may be challenging to feel and get in touch with what we intend to, but stay open and I think you’ll be surprised. That’s my best suggestion. We can do much more than we realize. We are totally empowered. Even using subs is in a way disempowering. But I don’t want to stir the pot, hehe.

Good luck, man!

Don’t stop at imagining, feel it! I heartily urge you! :slightly_smiling_face:

Hahaha, my hood is sexy too :frowning: it has a nice ass I’ve been told!

@GoldenTiger @DarkPhilosopher * rolls eyes * you both need help and I’m nowhere near qualified nor do I want to

Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much. :wink:


After giving you guys answers I definitely see that my desire for a healing sub is large enough to warrant starting with that. Now to find the right modules…

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@DarkPhilosopher has RegenerationQ + Elixir worked for you for what you want?

@DarkPhilosopher

TBH, I sympathize with @Soar when he states ā€œWhat if the idea of ā€œhealingā€ may be just another way of not accepting things as they are now? That’s why I questioned the focus on healing.ā€

I’ve wondered why does Regeneration, which I know is working, seems to take FOREVER! Just when I think I have a reprieve… POW.

I still think healing is important, and to be blunt, I prioritized it because I figured my negative ideas, beliefs, and images could trip up my success. I also had a bunch of irrational reactions to things that I knew were good for me. I was nervous around money for example. How weird! It’s not like when I was a little child a crate of $100 was dropped on my toe or something like that. So why the nervousness about money?

Observations of my reactions such as that forced me to realized I had to make healing anything a priority, and I chucked a lot of my desires to the curb for awhile. So the subliminals focusing on my success life took a back seat, which I hated, but I did it.

I can’t prove it, but I wonder if the healing I’ve done has made the subliminals for other things work better. I’ve wondered if my self-image has changed, allowing it to be more congruent with the objectives of the subliminal modules, therefore making the changes easier.

@SubliminalUser

There you are! Did you say that you used Regeneration for a year?

If so, could you please add some comments here?

You must have me mixed up with someone else. I’ve not used Regeneration for a year. RegenerationQ hasn’t even existed for that long, so whoever has done so would have listened to it with pre-Q and Q versions at different parts of the year.

@SubliminalUser

Okay. Thanks for clarifying. Was it @Leandros or @RockyHandsome or @khan who listened to Regeneration for a year?

I can’t remember or find this in a search and now it’s bugging me. :rofl:

ā€˜Healing’, in this context, does not mean to become perfect or without issues or blemishes. It is referring to the release of rigid fixation, in general or around a particular issue; the ability to pivot smoothly; to be flexible, agile, and adaptive; not stuck or fixed.

If I continue with a particular response or action due not to present conditions but rather in response to a past experience of overwhelming or painful discomfort or in anxious fear of an anticipated pain, then I can be said to be unhelpfully or dysfunctional ā€˜fixated’.

So-called Healing subliminals help with that. They’re not intended to create perfect beings because there is no such thing as perfect beings.

Using this definition, it is clear that, yes, there is a range of fixatedness among people, along various indices. And, yes, it is possible to release that and to become more flexible and adaptive with regard to particular contexts and also in general.

There has been a recent wave of many people exclusively using RegenerationQ + Elixir, almost as if it’s a new meme. Yes, I understand that Elixir was recently updated. However, I have not seen a sub-trend like this before in my entire listening history. Why is this?

Unfortunately, what you suggest is not the case is exactly what the current perception is. I get the feeling that many are falling into the ā€˜healing trap’ right now. Thinking that they need to be completely healed before they can move on and do something in their lives. In the meanwhile, they take on the identity of the one who needs to be healed. Ironically, by doing so one may not ever move on from the healing stage.

I propose that the solution is to become okay with the situation as is. Be that one’s current unwillingness to be social, or be okay with the fact that there has been a story one has held about themselves not being smart. And then, when one is ā€œflexible and adaptiveā€ enough—achieved through the acceptance of the situation, the current moment—one can take action towards the specific thing desired.

This is where those healing subliminals come in. We aren’t advised to run RegenerationQ/Khan ST1/what have you for the rest of our lives. After a certain point, we’re able to get our feet off the ground and get going towards what we really want. Of course, some more obstacles may come up. We’ll just have to clear them as we go.

We may have other internal obstacles, but they might never become relevant enough for healing. If I am afraid of mosquitos, yet I live in a part of the world that has almost none and what I want to do won’t require me to face mosquitos, is it really that important for me to tackle the limiting beliefs/thoughts/etc. around mosquitos? (Me, I’d hope to embody understandings on a bigger scale which may as a result help me be okay with handling mosquitos)

I myself am following the above right now by running some healing alongside my mains which focus on action.

  • March Forward: Commander, Man for Himself
  • Heal as I go along: Khan ST1, Elixir

Hope this makes sense.

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I don’t see such dire portent in the current trend of running Regeneration and Elixir. (and, Who the hell am I. But I’m just sharing my point of view.)

Frankly, any of the programs here are vulnerable to the pattern that you describe. Not just Healing programs. People can pick up any subliminal expecting it to fix all of life and make everything perfect. Emperor…check. Alchemist…check. Ascension…check. The list goes on and on.

A person may begin using a subliminal with unfocused or even erroneous expectations as to the subliminal’s purpose, but I think there will be a natural corrective process as the person experiences results over time. We learn what a given program is about by seeing how it impacts our actual lives.

Life has a way of maturing us and gently or forcefully urging us to update our perceptions of things. This is the learning process of life. It’s not exclusive to subliminals. Happens with pretty much everything we get excited about. New relationship, new job, new personal growth method, new guru, new spiritual practice. The list goes on and on.

On the positive side, there truly are significant benefits to be gained from working with subliminals while at the same time working at one’s life. All of the trends and fads will come and go, but at the same time, people are constantly learning valuable lessons and still deriving benefit.

Back to Dark Philosopher’s original posts, which are the actual point of this whole thread.

He does not seem to be stumbling into the Healing Trap that you and FireintheSoul are describing. He’s got an open mind, and will learn from his various subliminal experiments.

It also seems like with his past experiences of building strong shields to protect himself from all external influences, healing subliminals could actually be significantly useful. Healing subliminals could help to soften the walls and make them more pliable and translucent. This might allow an easier integration of messages from the subliminals. Seems like a decent way to go.

I’m still reflecting on your original points, Dark Philosopher. There was so much content in there that it takes a while to process.

Seems to me that there’s nothing wrong with having great walls as long as you have built doors and gates into the walls. Otherwise, you’re as trapped inside of your fortress as other influences are trapped outside. Reminds me of that Sting song, ā€˜Fortress Around Your Heart’.

And appropriately enough, thinking on this made me wonder about whether you ever sing. Singing softens the barriers between worlds, between subconscious and conscious. It’s one of those activities that exists strongly in both worlds. It is a way of intentionally opening the gates.

This is true of art in general. And so, I also wondered about the possibilities of you working with Ultimate Artist and developing your own artistic, expressive ā€˜technologies’ for calibrating communication between the Inner and the Outer, the Above and the Below, the Conscious and the Subconscious (and the Superconscious).

That’s not time-sensitive. Just a suggestion for you to consider.

leave it there

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