CC + Paragon + WDB/WB

I’m looking at old journals rn and praise has a LOT of journaling on WB/SB - you can go to his profile for the full journal but looks like he doesn’t recommend the stack

Very next post under though he says Stark/Wanted stack VERY well

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Yeah ASBR is great for this - so dense though I’d say it’s best as a main focus.

Try going back to stark for a while and generating quicker results for your tech career… then going to ASBR once you’ve seen huge momentum with stark

my 2 cents anyways, you do you :pray:

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Yeah sounds great!
I tried to stack WB and SB a year ago it was really bad the recon was unbearable. But I didn’t have titles with the anti recon like now in stack .
You know now I can play whatever I want sometimes (WB booster loops) without much problems :joy:
It’s a new dawn :joy:.

I think I should stick to Stark for now with primal and Paragon Wdb NE.
Maybe to try to Play SB as a booster sometimes or whatever.
Stark is light enough as I remember.
SB didn’t give me much recon when I didn’t stack it with WB.

But I’m more experienced today than ever!

I think it’s the first time I’m starting to get what WDB is doing.

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I’m talking a step back from the women who text me.
I don’t want to play with them. I don’t want them to dream about me (they think about me all the time they don’t dream). I am not sure I want them.
I used to be this fuck boy before WDB and now they just fall in love instead of wanting my body lol.
It’s not bad but I just wanted to have sex and they are not in the top of my list anyway.

I need new women. Hotter women whom I don’t care spending my time with.
WDB is romantic TO THEM I don’t feel romantic at all :joy:

lol Stark and Wanted online worked in an unexpected synergy.

Girls I don’t even know are watching me on social media. WTF is going on?..

Still not much IOIs when I go out.
I don’t like this WDB type… I felt WB is creating social proof and status for me in the whole room this way the most attractive women noticed.
But the online aspect did work.
I think I might need to build a custom with WB and the online module.

Also the New Wanted worked better for iois and women touching than WB.

So that’s very confusing.
WB is working the room.
NW is getting them to touch.
WDB getting them to fall in love.
I mean wtf just do all of them in one :joy::laughing:

For now I’ll have to do a mini washout soon.
Then I’ll be back to Stark Black with some type of Wanted and Paragon of course…
Then I’ll add primal or primal seduction (as usual)
So I might need to change my current WDB Paragon NE custom or to run some WB booster sometimes.

Really confusing situation to be in.

@heartmadeiron unfortunately you don’t have much experience with WB as I understand? Maybe you do with NW? Did you feel the same?
I think you just had everything you wanted happening to you just using WDB so maybe my problem is not so relatable to you…

For me it’s hard to get dates sometimes. I think that’s my bottleneck. In the date for them to fall in love ? Well that’s nice. But I’m not sure that’s my original problem. Not to say women used to fall in love with me like that left and right like with WDB. But I think I need the attraction first. Something that NW or WB are doing better IMO. And I also have approach anxiety so that’s why I’m thinking about Primal and Primal Seduction.
I think primal has a better anti approach anxiety script than PS.

Nah, I saw quick and consistent success with New Wanted: effortless hook ups, invites to sex clubs, closed-off relationships turning sexual, etc. Told a woman at a party that I loved her braids, she tracked down my axcount and invited me to her private swinger’s group. And all this was with a quarter of the time I had with WDB.

I just prefer Dream Boy because it speaks more to my romantic style and the physical shifting is less energy consuming.

Full disclosure: I think I progress through seduction subs so easily because, at a core level, I know I’m successful without them. Group sex, on-the-spot hook ups, sex clubs, BDSM parties, OnlyFans girls, harems, I’ve done it all without subs. I’ll do it all long after I stop using them. There’s no resistance when you know you can do something. That’s the trick.

Never had a serious run with Wanted Black though. I run seduction subs for the healing and self-concept work. WDB is a better fit for me.

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They do. Stark and Wanted is the single most overlooked stack I’ve ever seen. The only people I know of that actually used it were me and Invictus, who turned me onto the stack in the first place.

Once new Stark comes out, you’ll see me on that and Wanted probably indefinitely. Lol

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Wait.
What about SB and WB? Good? Or not
Or Stark and WB?
Is it any good?

In theory it’s an ultimate stack. However, Stark Black in particular is so difficult that it made the stack unusable for me.

Stark and Wanted, however, utterly amazing. I was building a harem on that stack before harem scripting was a thing.

You can try SB and WB though, you might fair better.

If you can’t use it, then frankly the issue is either lack of energy control, lack of healing in a key area (or several) or a mixture of both.

If SB and WB is unbelievably brutal for you, like it was for me.

Then DRRed full run, Alchemist full run, possibly QL full run (ST1 at minimum) also stacking all runs with Wanted and RICH, and maybe the Stabilizer also.

That foundation should, in theory, bring out the full potential of SB + WB.

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At minimum

Alchemist ST1
QL ST1
RICH
Wanted
DRed full run

Maybe play with Emperor Reforged while you work through the above and The Stabilizer.

I think in about a year, if your sequencing is good, SB + WB could be very, very viable.

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I have done full run DRR 2-1 years ago can’t remember when.
QL st1 done
Alchemist ran st1 twice
And st2 once

I played some SB yesterday lol the recon is unbearable all night I woke up from nightmares :joy: I think it’s because of the fame script in my case.

WB doesn’t do that to me anymore not so much recon it became a bit better to run for me but the results are still not what I want.
Anyway NW and WB are barrable to run no problem.
Stark as well doesn’t give me much recon.

I do feel I need QL or Limitless because I’m not focused and need some brain healing.
I can definitely build a Stark/SB WB custom no problem. Maybe with the new anti recon tech inside the custom it would be better.

Anyways tell me more -

What happened? Exactly…

And also what happened when you stacked stark and wanted?
The popularity was what made wanted so great?

I was green, unhealed, and unintegrated. I thought that because I was good with girls on Wanted that I could just force Stark Black to work without healing or even an idea of a career.

Wasted a lot of time.

But yeah, we good now.

Lol.

Stark and Wanted. That was like my first stack, it was years ago. Star student and ladies man. Was good. :slight_smile:

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Stark + WDB is the plan I have for September. I start college again and I think it will be amazing haha. Can you share your experiences with it? I’m currently using WDB + SSX until I start college, then I’ll change SSX for Stark.

The idea is passing exams easily and girls falling in love with me lol.

How is that being going for you ?

I’m still in recon shock from SB could focus on anything since yesterday :confused:

I will have to take a washout now :joy::laughing:

Still girls who fell in love communicate with me.
I think that’s the almost only good thing I can say about WDB because iois are minimal and no one approached me much.

I want to change to WB but I don’t want to buy a new NE also I like how some women crave me in a romantic way :blush:

That’s exactly what I got from it. I would say it’s an ideal school stack. You’ll do well in class and thrive socially.

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I’m still in recon and headaches.
In a day or two I’ll come back using micro loops

It’s SB who made this happen lol I used 5 minutes.
Should have started slow. But I’ll come back to Stark probably not to SB. At least not now.

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Still recon
Crazy dreams about women and clubs

And headaches still.

It all started because I used too many subs the same day with SB :joy:

Still recovering.

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Starting again with
Stark
WB
WDB Paragon NE

Even though recon hasn’t totally subsided.
If I feel I need 2-3 more rest days I’ll take them.

(Yes I’m usually playing 3 subs a listening day, sometimes 2)