MWF. Khan/Stabilizer on MW with Dream Boy solo on alternating Fridays.
Khan and stabilizer run anywhere between 15 secs to 5 minutes, depending on mood. Dream Boy is a full 15 minutes once every two weeks. Ascension chamber on Tuesdays.
Amounts to 10 week cycles; longer but more rest days and predictable listening schedule.
Looking back I had better results the start of the cycle.
And just less results the past 7-8 days.
Meaning I might hit a recon period or few days I didn’t go out much.
That said Saint might be right I can try to use cognitive enhancement subs like DD, Stark or limitless to help the romance subs work better.
Meanwhile I call it end of cycle one and still taking a break using affirmations.
For now still not so good of times.
I think I lack foundation
And ascension might be it
Reforged feels like a more advanced version of Ascension that’s great for dating too. Very aligned. It’ll push you hard to create what you really want in dating, not just the “skill” of it. It’ll personally and in other areas build that overall foundation while i see the Stabilizer as more specifically about getting your personal life in order. A "get your sh** together title.
Noticing this as well, finding myself screening girls pretty hard and looking for more long term compatibility. Same on my career, goals, and day-day choices.
ER gas more which is not necessarily better for what I’m looking for.
I’m not yet set to what to do as I’m now still on a washout.
Still just more cycles could work.
More cycles, taking action and reflection. All you really need. Trust the process
Few days ago I started to listen again to
Paragon + WDB NE
This time I can listen to full loops without a problem. But I feel I don’t have the confidence and presence I want. I currently feel WDB is not helping me push my sexuality or presence in a strong way.
I do cold approach and I felt Primal and Wanted were better.
So I dropped for now the Gen:M + PS custom and I added Primal.
Primal currently is helping me approach women easily and I think it’s better for now.
After few days today I’m using Primal Seduction as the third slot.
To be honest I would change to Wanted but I want to be consistent and give WDB more time even though I really feel it doesn’t suit me for now.
Hopefully Primal will balance things out.
I want confidence presence and ability to do what I want socially. Primal is really good with that.
Primal is a title I have a lot of experience with.
It’s not perfect but it always worked nicely
It always:
Gave me confidence to approach women
Nonchalant vibe
Good body language
Helped me make new friends
Helped me socialize
General confidence
General Aura
I think it’s now Ge:M blooming - working better as I get job opportunities
It did start on the cycle but it’s getting momentum now
Primal is helping me to approach but not necessarily to succeed now
I’m still thinking wanted or wanted black worked better for me than WDB
Because as of now I don’t see much results from that unfortunately.
Anyway till the 03.07 I’m continuing with paragon wdb NE, primal, ps.
Then I’m going to change things up.
Probably something like Primal, paragon wdb, stark.
If it’s not gonna work well I’ll take WDB out.
It’s funny because there was a time that I saw some small results using WDB. But not for the past 2 months
Broke some rules:
Used WB twice and got great results!
WDB still lagging in my Paragon wdb NE custom.
But paragon is working well
The fact I could used WB as a booster is amazing in my opinion.
I’m still with Paragon Wdb NE but
I’ll soon start to use stark as the second slot.
Then the third slot would be either WB / PS / Primal.
It feels almost stupid to use WB with WDB because if it could just work without WB it would be amazing.
But the results I got from WB or Wanted are so amazing I don’t want to miss them.
Another thing that’s might be happening is that I I’m not sure what is going on with WDB and it could be working better than I think!
Well some girls are falling in love after meeting them as an example but WDB is currently super slow it’s fucking ridiculous.
That’s by design.
It isn’t intended for instant attraction. Rather, it invokes a slow burning, picture-esque romance. Just imagine, the story she’ll tell her kids and family about how she met her husband and what not. it works best with built up and repeated exposure.
I think the trick is not getting caught up in instant gratification, My date today was classic slow burn romance. Id say it took 4 months to get us from flirting to play partners (kink FWBs). There wasn’t consentient persistence or contact, I just took opportunities as thy arrived.
I don’t always have time for this
Sometimes I meet a girl once or twice
“If” being the key word
Focus on long term resonance NOT short term experimentation to “test” results
The short term experimentation that comes from trying titles can be almost random. More a measure of early recon rather than alignment.
There’s a very clear statement from SaintSov - that is why you should choose WDB or not.
You have to pick your priorities. You want slow burns? Or is cold approach your priority?
Cold a approach is my priority also because I don’t have a circle of women which I can meet multiple times for the slow burn to work.
I go out to bars and clubs.
Then listen to titles made for that and that align with you.
What’s your routine/vibe when you’re at a bar/club?
I don’t think that Primal is the only option - you can totally use Wanted/WB to create immediate attraction that would suit bars and clubs if that’s more your style. Being chill and using intense eye contact, vibes, non verbal contact, creating reality bubbles, etc.
I do cold approach sometimes and all the ones that are most successful when I approach very non chalantly. Wanted works for me. I’m not an exuberant extroverted person.
You could even try out true social to be able to control the room in bars and clubs, alongside wanted.
Yes I experience that and I totally agree .
But maybe not WDB
That’s the practical solution. I can go on ablut how great WDB is for someone with little free time or without a circle of women friends, but sounds like this isn’t the right for what you want
Ok I will see what I’ll do the next cycle
First noticable results from WDB:
Enhance comfort with romantic tension, especially in the space “just before the kiss,” allowing
sizzling desire to bloom without rush or pressure.Lips Before They Touch
Lips Before They Touch focuses on the art of tension and timing — the ability to dwell in that slow,
sensually and romantically charged space just before contact without anxiety or rush. Instead of lunging
toward physical closeness out of fear or impatience, you learn to savor the suspended moment where
both of you are deciding, consciously and freely, what comes next.
This feature calibrates your sense of proximity, pacing, and nonverbal signals. You become more attuned
to small cues: shifts in breath, eye contact, posture, micro-smiles. Rather than pushing past these signals,
you let them unfold, allowing desire to bloom as shared anticipation instead of pressure.
Psychologically, Lips Before They Touch helps you become deeply comfortable with possibility instead of
outcome. You stop treating the kiss, the touch, or the escalation as the goal, and instead fall in love with
the moment itself.
For your romantic partners, this feels like being invited into a universe where desire is honored, not
grabbed — where they are absolutely free to lean in, to pause, or to stay precisely where they are. This
feature transforms physical intimacy from “getting somewhere” into a dreamy cherished event that feels
deep and sacred.
Women fall in love with me
The problem is it’s still not exactly my type
But yeah very attractive women 
My current stack is (WDB + Paragon) + WB + some Primal
I have a feeling WB works better than PS or Primal for me because results are a bit better.
That said, I didn’t run Primal for very long, nor PS.
My next step is:
(WDB + Paragon) + Stark or SB + ?? (Primal/ WB/Limitless/Khan st2)
I have to use stark again as for my work in programming.