CC + Paragon + WDB/WB

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#229

I don’t seee how this is a problem when your seduction style is cold approach anyway. I figured waiting for attention would be too passive.

In experience with Wanted line has always been more about opportunities than attention or being approach— I put little stock in both, to be honest. Sometimes an opportunity is a woman suddenly following your account or someone introducing you to their best friend at a party. In any case, its all bout seizing opportunities instead of waiting for them to hit you over the head.

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#230

@Plutus has recommended to use SB instead of Stark. So I’d like to try it in few days.

For now I’m pretty much amazed by how great Paragon is doing.

My recovery is better.
And some chronic health issues are working themselves out. That’s awesome.

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#231

SB is amazing but what do you want from it?

Knowing what I know about you, I just say to approach that title with patience.

It’s an artisan title that’s huge, with some difficult expression.

And the expression is the cultivation of dominance through value production, and the kind of celebrity effect that comes from shrewd calculation and a tactical nature when it comes to building your social circle, not an effortless wdb/primal.

If you wanted to work on your entire life I’d say run reforged, but, you seem to mainly want to work on seduction/social, which is only a small part of SB.

Reforged has a “wanted” like effect in dating according to me and Niles so I’d guess you’d love the seduction style, and it would round out other areas of life, and since it’s so deeply internal it’s the perfect prep/foundation for WB

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#232

Keep in mind that’s another dense title with, as Jouissance mentioned, difficult expression. His recommendation is valid, but you aren’t running it a vacuum.

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#233

For tech career

Yep that’s the problem I might need to start with Stark first.

#234

I’m looking at old journals rn and praise has a LOT of journaling on WB/SB - you can go to his profile for the full journal but looks like he doesn’t recommend the stack

Very next post under though he says Stark/Wanted stack VERY well

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#235

Yeah ASBR is great for this - so dense though I’d say it’s best as a main focus.

Try going back to stark for a while and generating quicker results for your tech career… then going to ASBR once you’ve seen huge momentum with stark

my 2 cents anyways, you do you :pray:

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#236

Yeah sounds great!
I tried to stack WB and SB a year ago it was really bad the recon was unbearable. But I didn’t have titles with the anti recon like now in stack .
You know now I can play whatever I want sometimes (WB booster loops) without much problems :joy:
It’s a new dawn :joy:.

I think I should stick to Stark for now with primal and Paragon Wdb NE.
Maybe to try to Play SB as a booster sometimes or whatever.
Stark is light enough as I remember.
SB didn’t give me much recon when I didn’t stack it with WB.

But I’m more experienced today than ever!

#237

I think it’s the first time I’m starting to get what WDB is doing.

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#238

I’m talking a step back from the women who text me.
I don’t want to play with them. I don’t want them to dream about me (they think about me all the time they don’t dream). I am not sure I want them.
I used to be this fuck boy before WDB and now they just fall in love instead of wanting my body lol.
It’s not bad but I just wanted to have sex and they are not in the top of my list anyway.

I need new women. Hotter women whom I don’t care spending my time with.
WDB is romantic TO THEM I don’t feel romantic at all :joy:

#239

lol Stark and Wanted online worked in an unexpected synergy.

Girls I don’t even know are watching me on social media. WTF is going on?..

Still not much IOIs when I go out.
I don’t like this WDB type… I felt WB is creating social proof and status for me in the whole room this way the most attractive women noticed.
But the online aspect did work.
I think I might need to build a custom with WB and the online module.

Also the New Wanted worked better for iois and women touching than WB.

So that’s very confusing.
WB is working the room.
NW is getting them to touch.
WDB getting them to fall in love.
I mean wtf just do all of them in one :joy::laughing:

For now I’ll have to do a mini washout soon.
Then I’ll be back to Stark Black with some type of Wanted and Paragon of course…
Then I’ll add primal or primal seduction (as usual)
So I might need to change my current WDB Paragon NE custom or to run some WB booster sometimes.

Really confusing situation to be in.

@heartmadeiron unfortunately you don’t have much experience with WB as I understand? Maybe you do with NW? Did you feel the same?
I think you just had everything you wanted happening to you just using WDB so maybe my problem is not so relatable to you…

For me it’s hard to get dates sometimes. I think that’s my bottleneck. In the date for them to fall in love ? Well that’s nice. But I’m not sure that’s my original problem. Not to say women used to fall in love with me like that left and right like with WDB. But I think I need the attraction first. Something that NW or WB are doing better IMO. And I also have approach anxiety so that’s why I’m thinking about Primal and Primal Seduction.
I think primal has a better anti approach anxiety script than PS.

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#240

Nah, I saw quick and consistent success with New Wanted: effortless hook ups, invites to sex clubs, closed-off relationships turning sexual, etc. Told a woman at a party that I loved her braids, she tracked down my axcount and invited me to her private swinger’s group. And all this was with a quarter of the time I had with WDB.

I just prefer Dream Boy because it speaks more to my romantic style and the physical shifting is less energy consuming.

Full disclosure: I think I progress through seduction subs so easily because, at a core level, I know I’m successful without them. Group sex, on-the-spot hook ups, sex clubs, BDSM parties, OnlyFans girls, harems, I’ve done it all without subs. I’ll do it all long after I stop using them. There’s no resistance when you know you can do something. That’s the trick.

Never had a serious run with Wanted Black though. I run seduction subs for the healing and self-concept work. WDB is a better fit for me.

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#241

They do. Stark and Wanted is the single most overlooked stack I’ve ever seen. The only people I know of that actually used it were me and Invictus, who turned me onto the stack in the first place.

Once new Stark comes out, you’ll see me on that and Wanted probably indefinitely. Lol

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#242

Wait.
What about SB and WB? Good? Or not
Or Stark and WB?
Is it any good?

#243

In theory it’s an ultimate stack. However, Stark Black in particular is so difficult that it made the stack unusable for me.

Stark and Wanted, however, utterly amazing. I was building a harem on that stack before harem scripting was a thing.

You can try SB and WB though, you might fair better.

If you can’t use it, then frankly the issue is either lack of energy control, lack of healing in a key area (or several) or a mixture of both.

If SB and WB is unbelievably brutal for you, like it was for me.

Then DRRed full run, Alchemist full run, possibly QL full run (ST1 at minimum) also stacking all runs with Wanted and RICH, and maybe the Stabilizer also.

That foundation should, in theory, bring out the full potential of SB + WB.

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#244

At minimum

Alchemist ST1
QL ST1
RICH
Wanted
DRed full run

Maybe play with Emperor Reforged while you work through the above and The Stabilizer.

I think in about a year, if your sequencing is good, SB + WB could be very, very viable.

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#245

I have done full run DRR 2-1 years ago can’t remember when.
QL st1 done
Alchemist ran st1 twice
And st2 once

I played some SB yesterday lol the recon is unbearable all night I woke up from nightmares :joy: I think it’s because of the fame script in my case.

WB doesn’t do that to me anymore not so much recon it became a bit better to run for me but the results are still not what I want.
Anyway NW and WB are barrable to run no problem.
Stark as well doesn’t give me much recon.

I do feel I need QL or Limitless because I’m not focused and need some brain healing.
I can definitely build a Stark/SB WB custom no problem. Maybe with the new anti recon tech inside the custom it would be better.

Anyways tell me more -

What happened? Exactly…

And also what happened when you stacked stark and wanted?
The popularity was what made wanted so great?

#246

I was green, unhealed, and unintegrated. I thought that because I was good with girls on Wanted that I could just force Stark Black to work without healing or even an idea of a career.

Wasted a lot of time.

But yeah, we good now.

Lol.

Stark and Wanted. That was like my first stack, it was years ago. Star student and ladies man. Was good. :slight_smile:

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#247

Stark + WDB is the plan I have for September. I start college again and I think it will be amazing haha. Can you share your experiences with it? I’m currently using WDB + SSX until I start college, then I’ll change SSX for Stark.

The idea is passing exams easily and girls falling in love with me lol.

#248

How is that being going for you ?

I’m still in recon shock from SB could focus on anything since yesterday :confused: