Can you mix Qv2 with ZP titles?

I think the ideal framework for running SubClub is

  1. Foundation Sub (Alpha Title)
  2. Primary Supporting Title (Goal dependant)
  3. Secondary Supporting Title (Goal dependant)

Few examples would be

  • Emperor + Stark + WANTED (my all time favorite stack)
  • Emperor + Stark + Primal Seduction (great for dating, pick up)

etc etc

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Oh, okay! I gotcha I see where you’re coming from and I also understand the rationale for holding back the more powerful tech. I wonder if there is a way for the company to make the more powerful tech accessible to certain individuals like yourself without making it publically available on the sales page.

Also fair. I recently added back a flagship title to my stack because my custom, though great, wasn’t enough to affect the changes I needed, so I get it. This leads me to wonder again if there is a way for Sub Club to offer higher-strength stock titles to users without offering them to brand new users.

I mean it could be as simple as gating the stronger titles behind a time lock/purchase amount lock on their sub-club account. It’s not a flawless system, but it could do the job. It would require individuals to have purchased x-number of standard strength titles and to have waited (hopefully to have run the title in the waiting period) for x-amount of time before they are eligible to buy the stronger titles. At the very least, this system would prevent impulsive purchases, but it would ultimately allow the user to make their own choice. Idk, just a random idea trying to balance both perspectives.

I can only guess that the reason they don’t offer stronger Subs to the public at large is that they know that a lot of people see “Strongest” and think “Best” and therefore dive headfirst into a rabbit hole they aren’t prepared to enter and instead of becoming life long customers, they decide it didn’t work for them. Just like the untrained people that start a 6-day-a-week bro split intended for an advanced athlete, break down, burn out, and decided that they don’t like working out.

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100%. I just reached the same conclusion myself. I ran my current stack for 2 weeks without a foundation title and I felt the lack. It’s like, it was working, but there was a big hole in the middle of it, then it hit me, I don’t have a foundation title to work on all the odds and ends.

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I actually run two foundation titles as a duo right now. Then maybe after a few cycles I’ll start adding supporting subs based on things I need to work on.

It’s incredible how much Emperor + Stark cover though.

More people need to run Ascension or Chosen in my opinion. They provide such a great foundation for other subs to flourish. And they aren’t too intense so very beginner friendly.

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Those have been my two foundation titles from the start. Love them both, both are different. Even though the sales page says they stack well, never considered stacking them haha. Maybe I will once I finish this current project because I love the extroversion of Stark, but my goodness the internal power of Emperor is something else!

Haha, yeah…Skipped that one.

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Interesting.

I’d be glad

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That’s how I’m feeling right now. My stack has been giving me good results but I feel like something should be added in.

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@Dark Any ideas of what you’d add?

Originally I wanted to just throw in Khan, but I decided to change the entire stack to Khan ST1 + UA + Wanted. I realized that more than anything else I need Total breakdown to clear out the trash instead of trying to cover it up with other programs. UA is because I want to make writing a regular habit and Wanted is there for the Aura and physical Shifting.

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UA (Ultimate artist) has aura and physical shifting incorporated?

Oops I meant to say Wanted

:grin:

No problem

For a moment i imagined physical shifting for accomodating your fingers to an instrument

My possible hunch is that using it should increase coordination.

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