I always joke that the left can’t come to an agreement on what a woman is and the right can’t come to an agreement on what God is.
Okay okay. Enough politics though. Lets get back to topic.
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Well, then let’s be glad that ‘reengineering language to advance one’s ideology’ is restricted to such a narrow and specific subsection of humanity. That’s a relief.
That’s sarcasm, by the way, my brother.
I’ve yet to find any human being who does not engage in that behavior.
And if we’re talking about the skill of constructing false equivalencies, for example. Again, I’m afraid that all politicians (and armchair politicians) have amazing skill in this area. And, yes, that include myself.
And this brings us back, very neatly, to the subject of this entire thread.
When the ego is ‘turned up’ very high, ‘winning’ starts to becomes more important than ‘achieving the goal’. If egocentrism is high enough (into the burning narcissist realm), people will literally sabotage their own cherished goals in order to avoid the appearance of ‘losing’.
And that’s ego gone wrong.
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Evolution is one of the basic properties of language. That being said, deliberately and forcefully alter semantics in order to promote ideology is straight out of 1984.
Tell me that WomenX, BlackX, LatinX and things of that nature aren’t an example of “NewSpeak”!
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This hit me like a ton of bricks today. My gosh.
Powerful stuff.
Covert and overt forms of narcissism.
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Probably you get it from your parents or people whom you grow up with.
To break the pattern is not to give in on the manipulation, but it does not mean to fight him. The best way to help is not to give-in because that will actually be hurting them, they will keep on doing the same thing to satisfy their ego.
Every narcissist has an episode like a tantrum - defuse them by not showing any intimidation towards them.
For example you’re on a kitchen and his having his usual act, continue doing what needs to be done. Just smile, no arguing. If he roll like a five year old, just pause don’t fuel the fire.
They feed on your fear, if you don’t give-in they easily gets drained out. You can actually tame them to become the person you want. If he ask for validation, give him choices but not to a point where it makes him feel worthy. Make him feel to earn something first before going to the next level.
You express love by doing the good things, not the ones he wants you to do.
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Navigating a relationship with a narcissist can be like trying to scale a treacherous mountain. It’s an uphill battle that requires immense determination and willpowe, which may not be worth sacrificing your mental sanity in the process. The question arises: Can narcissists truly change, and is it worth the effort?
Imagine the willpower required to climb a towering mountain. That same level of determination is necessary when dealing with a narcissist. They are deeply ingrained in their patterns of behavior, and change isn’t something that comes easily. It’s a lifelong commitment.
Just as someone suffering from anxiety may struggle with limited willpower to overcome their challenges, narcissists often find themselves stuck in their ways. Trying to “fix” a narcissist can sometimes be an exercise in futility, as it requires them to possess a much stronger desire to change.
Bringing a narcissist into your life, thinking you can heal them, is like inviting toxicity through your front door. These individuals often create chaos and drama wherever they go. Their selfishness, manipulation, and inability to truly connect with others can leave a trail of emotional destruction.
Hoping that your love or support will be enough to change a narcissist might lead to disappointment and heartache. It’s essential to recognize that narcissists may not have the capacity for deep, meaningful change.
while it’s natural and praiseworthy to want to help and heal those around us, it’s vital to understand the limitations when dealing with a narcissist. Sometimes, the best course of action is to protect your well-being and sanity by maintaining a “safe distance”. True change in a narcissist, if possible, requires a level of determination and willpower that rivals climbing mountains, and not everyone can make that journey.
sometimes the most profound change occurs when we have the courage to let go of what cannot be changed and channel our determination towards our own well-being.
Don’t lose yourself in the process.
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Which titles help to deal with Narcissist Client? I have to work with a client who is a Narcissist. It’s quite tough to work with so need a title to help with it.
Classic tactic of her is to trigger shame and guilt feeling upon others to manipulate:
- When someone doesn’t do things she wants, she says: I’m disappoint about what you do, you say. You should have talked, mentioned about it before.
- She ALWAYS reframing what others say to: 1. Make her the one talks and in control, 2. Reframe to make the talker is the victim, feeling shame, guilt and be little about what they just say.
That’s a lot of manipulation.
Try Emperor: The Will to Power.
Maybe try stacking it with chosen or lbfh too.
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Depends on the situation and what your goals are with this client.
If you want to fire your client, run Emperor: Will To Power
If you can’t fire her or don’t want to fire her, you can use titles like True Sell and Godlike Masculinity: The Commander to persuade her to your viewpoint.
These days I find it more useful to get the job done regardless of how people are. So personally I wouldn’t mind her remarks as long as I can do my work and she is paying me.
You could run a title like the NEW Emperor to keep your frame.
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Thank Lion, this is what I need. I have no choice but to work with the client until the project finishes. In this case, can you advice suitable sub??
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A title like the original Sanguine would be best for this along with your stack.
As someone who has a narcissistic father and sister with me and my mom being the scapegoat and codependent, nothing is more liberating than staying the F away from them. If you have been living with them all your life you will get brainwashed into thinking that everything is normal and that is their personality quirk. Nothing is further from the truth. They’re not a strict disciplinarian or just an annoying spoiled brat who does not know any better. They are abusive creatures who need to inflict pain whether it be emotional or physical. Why would you torture your kidneys to filtrate liquor when you can just avoid drinking it in the first place? My mom has a PhD and is a clinical psychologist. She has literally saved hundreds of people from suicide, depression, and other mental disorders. All her attempts at helping/making them improve have proved futile. My dad fornicating and impregnating my mom’s younger cousin in his mind is somehow my mom’s and her cousin’s fault. They are always right lmao. My mom booked a flight immediately out of concern for my sister after she failed her bar exam and ended up getting berated for being “selfish” and “inconsiderate”. Even if you reach out and try to help them it will end up in a scenario where you end up verbally abused. Their world is upside down. Only they can change it and I’m not wasting my life with fingers crossed waiting for nothing. The sooner you distance yourself from them the better. No more tiptoeing on eggshells. No more anxiety. Live your best life. Let them live theirs in perpetual misery.
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I’m in the same situation, my father is a dictate narcissist who always believe others have to listen and follow what he says because he is the eldest son. My mother is no better, she is a cover passive aggressive who must be codependent under my father dictation.
In the past, one time I went against and talked back to what my father said that I didn’t want to follow. Result? He just banged a chair in my head. After going thru many psychology books to understand and clear childhood trauma. I live far away from them, only go back home 1 time 2 or 3 years.
Now I have to work with another narcissist, very unpleasant I must say. But I know about them, just need to withstand and handle them correctly without give them narcissist supply: recognition, attention, etc.
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Thank you @Lion, I already have Sanguine, I add it in the next cycle.
Thank you @Viktor, I’m also considering TWTP, will try it after listening to Sanguine 2 cycles. See which one is better to stand firm before a narcissist.
“In a fight, argument, relationship with narcissists, you will never win”: This is my lifetime lesson. So I never ever trever clever try to win over them, I just stand my ground and draw boundary.
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All the best, my friend 
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Great songs for narcissist healing:
I love you guys!!!
Just reviewed this thread.
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I doubt it. Even if they can, it won’t be because I’m subjecting myself to it 
People can only heal, when they accept oneself as the problem, or accepting responsibility for it. Narcs, by definition, do not do this.
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Yes
source: the narcissist in me🤣
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Added the book Dangerous Personalities by Joe Navarro to my cart. It discusses the 4 most common dangerous personality types including the Narcissist.
I expect to see some resemblance to some of the managers around my workplace.
Thinking this book would be a good compliment to E:TWTP.
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