Can a narcissist truly heal?

[TheEmpress]

@Fractal_Explorer

Ultimately when it comes to relief from this stuff I think we should get to a point where it’s not some spiritual expedition or a trial by fire. I’m all for character building but I’m sure someone afflicted with narcissism would rather just be relieved of it vs going on an epic quest. I think this is where a huge shism is between more fact based scientific grounded ideas and more exploratory alternative healings. Each sides have merit, but alone the science is too rigid and the more alternative stuff very quickly detaches from being able to objectively observe without getting wrapped up in what things “should” be.

I agree that each side has merit.

[TheEmpress]

Chosen for the empath or chosen for the narcissistic person to listen to?

[KingofClubz]

Chosen for the Empath, we need those boundaries👊

LBFH to nudge them into healing

It’s the ideal match for therapists and healers.

It’s as if Chosen is the Father and LBFH is the Mother.

[TheEmpress]

Have you listened to this long term?

[KingofClubz]

Yes, I added Khan, and that is the only difference.

Funny enough, on that stack(Chosen,Khan,LBFH), I manifested a female narcissist friendship.

She didn’t need to prove herself to all her guy friends; simply being in her presence made her into a very kind loving female. She has a sizable fan base of beta males she loves to manipulate, but once I arrived, she started to change.

In fact, my best friend, the other narcissist in my life, was just unblocked by me on IG. I could literally feel all of his humiliation and remorse, and I had to run Chosen this morning to get rid of all those feelings he projected on to me

I had to change my stack from Emperor and HOM to Chosen, LBFH and Emperor because of him.

That’s why this thread peaked my interest, I contribute this to Chosen scripting.

[TheEmpress]

Maybe you manifested my post

I think I’ve had beta male followers too.

I notice where I try to find my own narc traits. Wtf.

[Skadoosh]

@TheEmpress

I’m curious what can be done to help the “narcissist” for their own recovery and healing.

This is all my opinion but I don’t think you can really “help” a narcissist. They have issues (traumas) and it’s up to them if they want to work on them. Same way it is for everyone else when it comes to trauma. Usually the narcissists don’t want to because the defensive mechanism is so strong. They usually can’t even hear what you’re saying because everything that enters their mind gets filtered through the complex.

That’s all “practically” speaking.

If we’re talking Neville Goddard type of stuff which you’re into and @NinjaGazin has explained… you can experience different versions of people. The thing is, that stuff is way too advanced for a public forum. It’s just way too much woo woo.

Most people are on base level, grounded traumas, practical solutions, therapy, reading books, etc.

That’s just how I personally see it, lol.

[TheEmpress]

@Skadoosh

If we’re talking Neville Goddard type of stuff which you’re into and @NinjaGazin has explained… you can experience different versions of people.

I’ve experienced this 1000%.

I swear I’d feel it real and he would morph into something different almost immediately sometimes, other times he would just reject the blessing.

It became exhausting.

You can imagine lovingly, they will receive the blessing, but then they choose their dwelling place.

Sometimes what’s familiar and comfortable for them is to stay in toxicity and harmful dwelling places.

Sometimes it’s too much work for someone to stay in a new place & they’d rather go back to their usual ways.

Exercising an orderly and disciplined mind is the key.

[TheEmpress]

@IRON

If a person is an unhealthy narcissist, recognizing that is the first step. If they desire to change, they will change. Ofcourse you cannot heal or change someone if they dont want it themselves. I would encourage anyone to never attach or identify themselves as something that they dont want to be long term. Its better to find ways to better oneself rather than say “Im X and Ill always be X no matter how hard I try.”

[KingofClubz]

Yeah, that’s social Media.

Some of the best advice I’ve found on dating psychology and the effects of social media have been

@SadiaKhan & @JustPearlyThings

They break it all down.

Narcissist Love Social Media

[Salchichon]

I tried but I was too good for it! So, I didn’t give a damn.

[TheEmpress]

Where are they at?!

[KingofClubz]

Youtube

[TheEmpress]

I wanna hear narcissist success stories.

I’m going to manifest this!! (Maybe)

I’ll be part of a team of elite coaches/healers who help make this a reality. (Maybe)

Dr Joe Dispenza got people walking who were in wheelchairs, people healed from terminal cancer, blind began to see, so why not narcissism? Or extreme mental disorders or addiction.

Edit: feeling some of Stark bloom right now

[IRON]

can I be the bad guy that puts people in wheel chairs and gives kids cancer?

To keep the balance and storyline going ofc

[TheEmpress]

[COWolfe]

I’ve dealt with narcissists and psychopaths a LOT Zon my professional life, and more than a couple in my personal life.
I have come to one conclusion. The same one most people have.
There is NOTHING we can do to help or “heal” them.
Trying to do so just puts you in their range, and you don’t want to be there.
A true NPD case just has something missing from their personality. The thing that stops the rest of us from abusing and taking advantage of others.

@TheEmpress

What’s the metaphysical cause behind narcissism?

My personal theory is that there is a mind there, but no connection to something higher. No soul if you will.
I’m not going to get much more esoteric than that on here.

@TheEmpress

It’s like a parasite of some form.

Exactly. But THEY are parasites. So unless you really know how to deal with them, don’t.

[TheEmpress]

I’ve helped people with milder forms (probably just some learned behaviour in childhood) with great success, but not with severe NPD.

What I just experienced for a year was crazy!

I was too close to the situation though.

Maybe if there wasn’t a personal relationship it could be more possible.

Not sure atm.

[KingofClubz]

@TheEmpress

Edit: feeling some of Stark bloom right now

Yup, that’s Stark

[TheEmpress]

@COWolfe

There is NOTHING we can do to help or “heal” them.
Trying to do so just puts you in their range, and you don’t want to be there.

Can you elaborate on this part?? Please