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#1

At what point in life did you accept that it’s okay to never have any relations with women and never having a girlfriend in life?

I’m 23 and I’m still fairly new here and I’ve been using Ascended Mogul for a little under a month now and I think I’ve completely released all concerns and care for having a woman in my life, and it’s liberating. I’ve learned that all men don’t deserve a woman and I’m one of those men and accepting this truth on a deep internal level feels amazing!! :smiley: I feel an intense level of pride that I know nothing about women and that there are 0 women that know I exist, besides the women in my family.

Can anyone relate to this? It feels awesome

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#2

Ironically that’s the time when women do show up in your life!

AM is working it’s magic :+1:

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#3

@Michel Really? :sweat_smile: I’m currently going through reconciliation. Luckily, I’m off of work today because I feel depressed at the same time, lol. It’s a feeing of relief and hopelessness. Strange

#4

AM is a very success and money focused title which encourages you to chase excellence rather than women. Women are just a bonus in your life. They will come to you when you are focused on your purpose and this focus is what you are feeling now.

May you find your purpose and succeed!

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#5

This is kind of like telling an investment/finance community how happy you are being dirt poor and asking if they relate. What are you expecting? :upside_down_face:

Letting go of a desperate attachment is a good thing, but giving up at only 23?? Come on man, at that age you can probably still get away with hitting on high school girls. (I didn’t say it was the best idea, but…) This is the best time to work on making yourself the best version of you that you can be, something that AM is very good for. Once you’ve built yourself up, then get out there.

Read this thread, there’s some good advice here: I don't know what to do anymore

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#6

@Lion @BLACKICE Thanks a lot for this feedback and advice, it means a lot. I’ve seen great improvements in the work environment and so far I was able to manifest traffic increase of 1500 people towards my music website where I upload my demo projects and video content via TikTok and Instagram. I’m so excited to see what the future holds as I continue to take action.

On the other hand, I never thought of girls throughout high school and rarely in my 20s until I was 22. I just noticed how far behind I was when it comes to dating because I never thoughy about it. People my age have been in atleast 5+ relationships, some married, even some with children, including my cousin who is 23 also.

Sometimes the thoughts come up every now and then you know? But, I’m going to focus on becoming financially independent, saving to live by myself far away from the world, and focus on my passion. It makes me feel good and prideful to be like no one else and not experience things others have

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#7

It’s good to be focused on your success goals but I would encourage you to have sex once in a while. Even casual sex partners are a good thing and healthy. Just be clear with them that you want to keep things casual (that’s how I roll).

But in the end, it’s absolutely up to you. Hope to read more of your journey.

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#8

Good job, I hope that has good results for you!

:face_with_raised_eyebrow: I was too shy to talk to girls in high school, for the most part, but I sure as hell noticed them and thought about them! I didn’t have my first “real” girlfriend (I mean serious, not as in not-imaginary… lol) until I was 22. That’s the time in life to start having fun, not to be getting married.

Kids at 23? Wow.

Focusing on being financially independent is good.

Like… on Mars? :rofl: :nerd_face:

Good luck! :+1:

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#9

@Lion Thank you so much. I haven’t started a journal yet but I think I will! :smiley: I’m starting to notice many different new ways of thinking, such as not caring what anyone thinks. (Which feels the best by far!)

In terms of casual sex, I’ll start investing money on the side for contacting hookers/prostitutes and things of that nature :relaxed:

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#10

@BLACKICE I love your way at looking at things. It seems you are helping me with a tough love demeanor with a dash of humor, which I admire! :sunglasses: Thanks for the boost! :pray:

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#11

That would be good for practice I suppose, but does not help you actually approach and seduce girls, which is typically the part that people are shy about. While free kicks are fun sometimes, you don’t get good at sports by paying the goalie to let you score. :wink:

At 23 my life had barely started. I was super shy and awkward and convinced myself that a girl I had a huge crush on would never be interested in me (I later found out she’d liked me for a while… d’oh!) so I went after someone else. That pattern repeated throughout my 20s and early 30s… go for who/what you want (with respect for yourself and others), and whether it’s a casual date, a relationship, a business deal, a job application… if they aren’t interested… oh well, you gave it your best shot so nothing to feel bad about. Move on.

I try to only give the advice I wish someone had given me when I was that age.

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#12

Let me add to what @BLACKICE has said. Besides the obvious difference between paying for sex and being genuinely desired for sex, dating also teaches you how to deal with life.

Life is like dating. You get rejections. You get successes. And you have to try and try again in order to succeed.

Also, there is a psychological reason why heterosexual men need women to have sex with and sleeping with beautiful women who genuinely desire you is built into your biological wiring.

Escorts get boring after a while but when you can date women who want you, that’s a whole different thing. You don’t even need to have too many one night stands. Even having 3 or 4 regular side chicks is fine. And when any of them leaves, replace with another. Just make sure you you date more than one at a time so that you don’t develop oneitis.

Being detached is a good thing. But don’t be so detached that you can’t fulfill your biological drives. Sex is just like eating and sleeping. And you need all of them of them to live a full life.

Hope this helps.

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#13

Seems like you are starting to realise that you don’t need validation from women to feel like a man.

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#14

I dont know if I’m misreading this, but this gave me pause.

Be careful. From what you wrote it sounds like your subconscious has come up with a clever way to steer you away from something you might have deep limiting beliefs towards.

It feels good, but just because it feels good doesn’t mean it’s positive growth for you.

Why do you feel you don’t deserve a woman in your life?

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#15

@Fractal_Explorer

hmm, you think so? I did mention that it was a mixed feeling of relief and hopelessness so I’m guessing, I feel this way on a conscious level as a form of coping. I’m not entirely sure.

To put it simply, if an opportunity were to arise in which a woman comes into my life, I would honestly be happy and on board with it.

However, if it doesn’t happen, I’m okay with it regardless.

That’s the best way to put it. Ultimately, I hope this doesn’t result into anything negative in the future.

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#16

@Lion @BLACKICE

I do agree that those primal drives that we have as men to have sex and have connections with women exist within me, but I’m unsure if I’m worthy for those kinds of things and honestly, If I were to have a girlfriend or even just a sexual relation with a female friend, I’s be ashamed if people in my family knew.

I honestly can’t even invision my father, sister, or anyone seeing me with a girl.

Visualizing me holding hands with a girl while introducing her to someone in my family? haha, maybe in another universe thousands of years from now :joy:

I’m grateful that an escort is even compliant and patient enough to breath in my presence, so that’s a win in my book :raised_hands::smiley:

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#17

Yeah everyone goes through this on alpha programs, it’s an old set of belief that we all deserve love that really makes men bad at dealing with women, the badass comes out slowly when you’re just indifferent to it

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#18

It’s tricky. There’s a difference between non neediness vs a false sense of non neediness. I’ve seen a familiar pattern with subliminals among guys using them at times. It’s like the subconscious tries to shortcut the end goal but fails to actually engage in the experience. Sort of a “it’s ok I didn’t really want that anyway, I’m fine” but it can be a lie. You only feel fine with it sometimes because deep down you know you can’t get it yet at your level of growth.

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#19

@Yazooneh I like the sound of that! I’m hoping my perspective on the matter of love and dating becomes more rational and less emotional :slightly_smiling_face:

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#20

Hopefully bro, it’s the best way to enjoy love anyway, regardless of the feelings that today’s society tries to force into you. Everyone who women love have a strong sense of rationality, and this comes with wisdom and playing smart

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