Building a foundation for success with women (SC titles)

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#1

Hey guys,

I’m still trying to find my way with all these titles I’ve bought.

I’m not new here — I’ve been using SC for about a year and I’ve seen real results in other areas.

What I’m trying to figure out now is: how do I build a solid foundation for being consistently successful with women?

I’m saying this as someone who used to be a legit fuckboy, so I know what’s possible for me when I’m in the right state.

I’m not here to blame the titles, but I do feel like some of the alpha/wealth stuff made me more serious and less flirty.
Maybe it’s something my mind can reconcile, but right now it feels like I’m missing that “seduction mindset” piece.

Here’s my experience so far:
Khan st1-4 (only Stage 4 I saw something happening, used for one run through):
It was only on Stage 4 I had opportunities everywhere — like I could SOMETIMES approach and only sometimes not be rejected and even end up on an instant date with a few hotties. But when I finished Stage 4 and switched stacks, it felt like it disappeared within a week… and a ALL of women I approached around that time ended up ghosting (including the insta dates) - no sex. But it felt like there are hot women everywhere on stage 4 which was really interesting and an amazing experience.

Primal Nights:
Gives me bad heart palpitations (no idea why). I tried it for a few days, didn’t see much, and didn’t want to push it because of the health side.
I mean everytime I tried to use this one it give me bad heart palpitations even after few run throughs of KB (KB also gave me heart palpitations but it was a bit more bearable and that’s why I didn’t stick with St3-4 too long.)

Primal:
Helps me approach more (I usually run it for a cycle every few months), but it doesn’t really change how women respond.

Primal Seduction:
Honestly, after a month or so I don’t really feel changes yet. Not sure what it does

Stark:
Acted very fast for me.
Made me popular and super talkative, but women didn’t respond better.
Some guys got super jealous and tried to make for of me just because I was in the spotlight more.
I’m not very alpha I’m more of a social guy so it was hard dealing with some bullies.
When I switched to Emperor they stopped.
But also I was not in the spotlight so much.
Well it does make sense.

WB:
Hit or miss. Really odd for me — sometimes nothing for weeks, then something happens, then it fades again. Some dates, not sex.
And some of the girls were really hot and we’re open to meeting new women! lol
But again I can run it for months and approach women and still get very bad rejections and super frustrated.

New WANTED (2 cycles):
Used it with Khan on stages 1-2

A lot of frustration and weird situations. When I approached, it felt like no one wanted to talk and I got harsh rejections.
Once in a blue moon I had something (like a waitress flirting), but I wasn’t sure if she was just being nice and it was in front of people I know so I didn’t go for the number.

One average-looking girl was into me… then again nothing for weeks. Super weird.

Some patterns I do notice:
Physical shifting happens fast for me on WANTED, WB, and even Emperor — but it also goes away if I stop.

Money mindset comes quickly on HOM / Stark / RICH.

Competitive “I want to win” drive comes fast from Khan.

But seduction mindset / consistent success with women? That’s the one area where I feel stuck, like I’m in the dark.

I even used ROTNW with very wishy-washy results.
So my question is simple:
How would you guys recommend I build the foundation for dating/seduction success from here?
Is this more about clearing limiting beliefs, running something like wanted/ps for a long time first or something else?
Any advice is appreciated.

I have a Genesis Mogul with mostly seduction modules in it and 3-4 wealth modules
After a month guess what happened? Only the wealth modules got my subconscious attention and I needed to stop my drive for money and business was too high I wanted to focusy mind on the social aspects.

#2

With Khan, you really want to do the stages in order…Don’t need hundreds of cycles with each.

At a minimum, Khan ST1 followed by ST2 (one cycle each) will pave the way for any other seduction titles (my opinion only mostly).

I remember back when Wanted was still fairly new, Khan1+Wanted really boosted the Wanted effects.

I think Khan1 is fantastic for the foundation. If you have the budget:

Khan1+Ascension+Godlike Masculinity.

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#3

Do a short wash out and run just one title for a full cycle: WDB.

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#4

Yes I did them in order it was mistyped lol meant I used them in order 1-4 for one cycle each

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#5

That’s interesting
I usually use 2-3 titles in a stack
Can you tell me about why you think it will change things?
Do you have an experience with what I’m experiencing?

I once used ROTNW by itself and results were better

#6

Yeah I can see it happening…
Running Khan again could this time around build a better foundation!

Why do you think GM? And Ascension could help?
I mean I never tried Ascension and it’s not up-to-date

Would love to here more from you because I know you are a very experienced user !

Thank you guys

Your input makes me think

#7

You want consistent results but I’m not seeing a whole lot of consistent sub usage.

Consistency takes consistency, which you’re not applying therefore not getting.

I know you’re a manifesting guy but you also gotta pick a goal and commit to making it happen no matter what, not just sub hppping till one of them gives it to u instantly

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#8

When you run money titles too much and get too focused on that, you said you feel the need to balance it out with a social/seduction sub.

But does the opposite happen - where too many seduction/social subs make you feel distracted from wealth, and then reintroduce wealth?

#9

Cause less is more. You have a clearcut, slovable problem. By running just one sub it’ll be much eaiser to process rhe script, priorize your problem and take action toward resolving it.
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#10

You can be right
I can always try to get better
That said last year I used primal or two for once cycle the. old wanted for a cycle and then WB for 3 cycles
So I understand it’s not the same title but it’s the same category at least

Not so much.
After a month or two with some wealth titles the results they can me continued for MONTHS so I became too business oriented and less social unfortunately.
Therefore even though it’s not the same push without the wealth titles
I still don’t much use them for them past few months
Currently I’m using PS WDB Emperor

#11

Sounds like stark is your base.

Gets you great results, it matches your social archetype, it gives you that balance of social AND money - it’s probably a sub that you could stick to for a long time.

Then, adding another title onto stark, you can start to overcome some of the difficulties you experience on stark by tailoring your stack.

If women don’t respond to u all that well, it’s probably because stark has SOME romance scripting but isn’t dedicated to that.

If men are challenging you, it’s probably because your frame is weak and soft - maybe the same reason why women aren’t responding well.

Now… what if you balanced Stark with Khan.

I laugh that you did one cycle of Khan4, which is one of the most dense titles in the store. That takes a while for the full results to manifest.

Khan/Stark has a really nice balance of money and seduction and social.

#12

Because they’re fantastic together. When I ran older version of GLM with Ascension, one girl in particular (Annabelle in my journals) got way more talkative. Ascension isn’t “out of date.” It still works fantastically. I’m looking forward to the update though.

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#13

Yeah I have a clear cut problem
But not a clear cut path to solve it.

When I used Wanted I felt it was harder to approach women

When I used Primal I felt it was easier but I was not attractive enough

All of these different archetypes just got me super confused with what I suppose to do

That’s why I chose to combine WDB with PS for now to be able to approach women and hopefully to have WDB actived to get results with women

#14

Haha I’m here to learn! I didn’t know I was supposed to do more than one cycle of stage 4
I thought I needed to rerun the whole thing and then decided to run something else

About the stark thing you are right it does feel exactly like my type of an archetype but because I felt l needed to build a stronger frame I used emperor

You might be right to combine stark with Khan

It retrospect Khan st4 was the stage where I started to see more women everywhere you could be on to something!

#15

Can immediately see that reconciliation is coming up for you and then you switch titles

The simple plan is to stick to the titles and run them longer than two or three cycles

Try six or more months

Even a year

Work through the reconciliation coming up. The results will follow. You can see it on so many journals on here. People running titles for over a year. Two years. More. They all have the best results

I guarantee you will be a different person afterwards if you do that

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#16

This exactly

Sounds like Stark is your base, you’ll probably run it for OVER a year. It’s the foundation for you in building success with women. It’s like your 5x a week gym sessions.

Khan is the area where you need to grow on Stark the most. It’s like the specialist/physiotherapist that targets your weak points. You’ll probably run it for 6 months.

Whatever the third title in the stack is is going to be the bonus. You want to really understand how you operate at that consistent frequency of Khan/Stark before you start adding in extra stuff! Once those two are stable, then you can play around with others.

RoTNW is a great booster for that third slot here and there. Or Primal if u wanna work on approaching, for example.

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#17

I got the exact same too, until I decreased the loop length significantly.
Now WB is just as consistent as any other subs that I’ve used.

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#18

I see what I take from all of this is to be more consistent with the stack I choose
And to start the stack and be aware of the recon.

Also to consider 1-2 titles instead of 3

I’ll take few days off and rethink my strategy

#19

30s to 2/3 minutes never worked for me
I always needed to play at least 3-5 minutes of a title to see results - it’s usually when I play the whole 15 minutes when I feel it the most.
And yes it also means I might hit recon too often…
Not talking about WB specifically but even with WB I didn’t see or feel much using 30s .
That said didn’t try it for very long time this way

I could try 2-5 minutes loops for a week and two with the titles maybe it would work better don’t know

How did you change your listening schedule?

#20

Now that you’ve given more insight, it sounds lke you didn’t have the proper foundation for WB.