Breaking down a big custom into manageable sub

Questions and Comments
#1

If you are running a custom that has 2 cores for example: Emperor and PS with 20 modules lets say,
is it possible, in order to target specific areas, to do like two different name embeds, one with emperor and one with PS, both using the same modules in the core, like PS for 3 cycles then switch to emperor for 3 cycles then go back to the original custom that had PS and emperor in one custom

The goal is to focus more on one topic at a time because I just read in a post that both PS and Emperor are very dense

Ps

I’ve ran both of the store titles individually in the past, by themselves

#2

I don’t have any proofs but I feel like using PS + Emperor custom for 6 cycles will have the same results as using PS for 3 and Emperor for 3.

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#3

Since they have the same modules, you’d probably want to run them on alternating days. Otherwise you’d double up on modules if running both each day. Recon city.

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#4

For a while I ran quite similar customs, switching just one core.

IME it is better to run a heavier one for 6 cycles than 2 similar for 3 each.

Switching 1 core still makes it a different sub and you still kinda start from zero all over again.

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#5

Idk, but I’ve had a similar conundrum and for future reference MDFY: Conscious Guidance module is my friend going forward. When I feel like I want to change the focus of the customs or give them a new direction, that is really helpful for it and the entire stack.

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#6

This. I get where tg OP is froming from, but this feels the most practical.

That just means you’d need to run the title longer and probably in a smaller stack. Those extract 3 months you can invest in your current custom will go along way especially if you aren’t running too many subs.

#7

just running
GLM name embed and WDB name embed along side my PS/emperor QTKS

I’ve used the QTKS for 40 something processing days
when I finish this cycle, it will be 50-60 processing days

I’ve started to measuring my stack in processing days to encourage me to listen consistently
I think I’ve used emperor for 3 months but it could be longer tbh

#8

with the new microloop schedule what would a cycle be
I know in the past it was 21 days, take a washout then that would count as one cycle
But now that we have to use it for 30 processing days, which is 2 months basically, how does that work

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#9

A cycle is 30 processing days + the number of rest days between processing days. If you’re following the recommended “1 day on, 1 day off” schedule, your cycle is 60 days. if you’re following a Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule, your cycle is roughly 10 weeks.

So 6 cycles is roughly a year (minus washouts) with the recommended schedule. Or like 1 year, 1 month and 2.5 weeks with (again, minus washouts) with a MWF split.

Edit: You’re always welcome to run shorter cycles, more rest days and larger washouts. I’ve done shorter cycles.

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#10

What @heartmadeiron wrote, but in general: It’s IMO always better to run a heavier sub straight than two corresponding lighter slightly different ones in an alternating schedule.

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#11

For a heavier sub might I suggest a modified type of schedule more and more advanced users are using that gives you 2 back to back rest days per week, plus very specific listening and rest days?

For this modified schedule many users choose M W F for the listening days with Sat and Sun for the rest days. If you schedule in two rest days in a row it is like a mini washout.

You still have 30 actual listening days and each cycle takes 10 weeks (3 listening days per week).

Plus whatever days you pick you know that, for example, it’s Monday so today is a listening day. Etc.

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#12

I might try that

For this one, are you still doing microloops for this schedule or is it full 15 mins

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#13

That part is up to you. There are a couple of long-term users that I know who are sticking to 30 second loops and now are wondering if longer loops are even necessary.

These are people who can process quite a bit too. So experiment. I know 30 seconds doesn’t sound like much but it seems to do the job. This is with the new technology, but even for customs that are pre-ZPU.

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#14

Both Makh and I have scaled back to micro and see strong results with it

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#15

Tbh when I have done just 30 seconds of any sub, I noticed great results with no recon, but I always think ohh I have to run more to get more benefits but harsh recon usually follows right after

I have this mentality that if I don’t move up then I won’t see the results I’m looking for from the objectives

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#16

I feel you. I have the same mentality and it’s difficult to break. So you’re not alone. I’m very new to the subs (November 21) will be my 1 year anniversary.

Luckily a couple of people on here have befriended me who’ve been successfully using these subs for years ( two are 7+) and so I genuinely take their advice because I see their results in their journals.

I’m building my 1st custom sub in a month or so and Support (the official Support you submit a ticket for) and they suggested this sub to start out with 15 second loops and stay with 15 seconds for a while. It is a healing sub and will dig into some emotionally charged areas.

But 15 seconds! And that’s an official recommendation. LOL. Honestly, these subs are much more powerful now. You read posts from literally just a couple of years ago and they were listening for a loop of 15 minutes every other day and sometimes a couple of subs for 15 minutes each.

15 seconds recommended for my custom, and not a typo. LOL.

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#17

Oh, I forgot to mention about switching over to the recommended schedule where you have 2 days off in a row. About two and a half weeks ago I thought, why not I’ll try this.

I kid you not, that should be the official recommendation. Those two days off are genuinely like a mini washout. It helps out the integration of the subs substantially. It’s also so easy to calculate how long the round is going to be.

Me personally, when I do my washout towards the end of the month I’m counting on six days. One says he only does 3 days for a washout and that works out for him because you have so many 2 days off in a row. But I like to keep things simple and give it a little more time.

#18

I’ve noticed that. MAkh went into a little detail with me and I like the idea. Like he said, and I think you have also in other posts, you increase the time and you start getting Recon. You can deal with it, heck you guys really had to deal with it 2 years + ago.

But ultimately, what’s the point if you are getting excellent results at 30 seconds with no recon with the new technology?

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#19

I might have to take 3 days off and start at 15-30 secs
you are right, ZPU is no joke

If thats the recommended recommendations then might as well. It’s funny, when I first started subs a few years ago I remember running subs for like 15 mins back to back to back and get some recon but, now when I attempt to do that with ZPU, even if its like 3 mins, I get the worst recon I have ever experienced damn. My QTKS…before ZPU…is the only sub I can run 5-7 mins without much recon

I’ve basically been in a recon fog this whole time and starting to realize it and have to push my time way way down

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#20

I think it’s one of those things, especially for the guys who were here way before the new listening schedule got implemented, when it was like 15 mins every other day, so now 30 secs seems unbelievable…but better to see small small success and build momentum then be in recon fog and not taking action

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