I’ve vibed with K2 and 4 so far
Start testing light amounts of 3 - whole different beast
it feels like sexual and centered, and more manic, and not comfortable. may need to go to K1 again before I can proceed or may need some adjustment
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Thought I share this. I wrote this ticket a while back and it’s less relevant currently but thought it could be valuable.
Question:
I find many of the new subs
don’t fully land or create the same kind of internal confidence I experienced on previous versions.
I also find this weird odd of identity and presentation being shifted but still feel raw, insecure, or unresolved on many of the sub issues .
At the same time, I clearly see incredible results and benefits, but these issues don’t always seem to fully resolve. Is this recon or any insight into what this might be about?
For example on WDB I see amanzing connection, but have insecurity around things being sexual
On new R.I.C.H I dont’ feel that sharedge and confidence on felt on previous versions, and the humble element even can feel soft and insecure.
On True Social, I feel super fluid and discerning and great at navigating social landscape but I don’t enjoy it as much and feel like an empty space and that its harder get what I want etc.
On C&C I feel high status, and confident, but like its harder to meaningfully connect- that has an insecurity of being off- beat with people. ETC
This is an element of my experience, there are other things that works really well with all these subs.
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Azriel Apr 29, 2026 5:44 pm
to say more fully, it feels like there are great effects with the newer subs but like its not changing how I think about, feel, or see myself fully in my cases, or not in the same way as previously.
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SubliminalClub Support SupportJun 9, 2026 2:07 am
Hi Azriel,
This is one of the most insightful questions we get — and yes, a lot of what you’re describing is reconciliation, but there’s a deeper frame underneath it that I think makes sense of all four examples at once.
Short answer: What you’re noticing isn’t the newer titles working less on your inner world — it’s them working on a deeper layer of it, and doing it differently than older versions did.
Why the newer versions feel different
Older approaches (and earlier generations of our own titles) tended to work more by override — pressing a strong, defined state on top of what was already there. That can feel excellent: a sharp edge, an obvious surge of confidence, a clearly “switched-on” sensation. But part of that felt-intensity is closer to what we call the “pump” — a powerful surface state that sits over the underlying material rather than resolving it.
The newer Zero Point titles are built to do the opposite. They’re objective and self-directed: rather than installing a template of “confident,” “sharp,” or “high-status,” they’re designed to dissolve the limiting beliefs at the root and reveal your authentic version of those qualities. As the manual puts it, the technology “doesn’t create a false persona — it reveals your most powerful, authentic self,” dissolving old beliefs instead of forcing new ones over them.
The catch: when a deep insecurity is being dissolved at the root, it tends to surface first. That raw, insecure, “unresolved” feeling around a specific theme is usually the exact root being brought up so it can be cleared — not the title failing to reach your self-concept. It’s reaching the deepest part of it. This is precisely what our anti-reconciliation technology is designed to do: “discover and dissolve the root causes of your reconciliation.”
Why the results are strong but the sense of self hasn’t caught up
At its core, reconciliation is the gap between a transformed inner state and an outer reality (and self-image) that hasn’t caught up yet. You’re seeing the remarkable functional results — the connection, the fluency, the status — because capability comes online first. But how you think about, feel, and see yourself is the slower “baseline” layer (the manual’s gym analogy: the pump arrives immediately, the new baseline strength is built over months). Identity reorganizes around the new capability after it’s been lived and integrated — typically the minor-by-30-days, strong-by-90, major-by-6-months arc.
That’s why each of your examples has the same shape — strong outer effect, lagging inner embodiment:
- WDB — the connection lands, but the sexual-insecurity root is being surfaced. WDB specifically works on smoothing sexual shame and performance anxiety, so that material gets stirred up in order to dissolve.
- New R.I.C.H. — the “sharp edge” of the old version was partly an imposed state. The authentic version dissolves the underlying insecurity rather than masking it with bravado, so where that root isn’t cleared yet, “humble” can feel like “soft.”
- True Social — the capability (fluid, discerning) is fully online, but the enjoyment and felt-ownership haven’t integrated yet, so it reads as “empty space.” That’s the inner/outer gap, not a missing effect.
- C&C — status is embodied, but your relational self hasn’t reorganized around it yet, so connection feels “off-beat.” Same gap.
What actually helps this resolve
- Less, not more. This deep-layer work integrates on your rest days, not during listening. Keep exposure conservative and protect those rest days — overexposure increases reconciliation and slows this exact kind of integration.
- Open the pathways through action. Self-concept consolidates when the new capability is repeatedly lived and expressed, and when you let the surfaced insecurity be felt and processed rather than pushed back down. Inner change becomes identity through real-world reps.
- Journal it. Identity-level change is the easiest kind to miss in the moment, precisely because it quietly becomes “just you.” Tracking it is often the only way to see it happening.
- Don’t chase the old felt-intensity. The authentic version won’t always feel as loud as an imposed state, even when the real, lasting results are greater. Judge by what’s genuinely changing, not by the “edge” sensation.
To put it plainly: this isn’t the newer titles doing less. It’s them working on the part of you that the older versions skipped over — and that part surfaces before it settles.
Warm regards, Support Team
P.S from Fire: I wanted to add a bit more from myself since this is a good question - when this stuff surfaces, this is usually the perfect time to work on these things as they become obvious. All this has been hiding underneath, and now it is coming to head in order to be worked through. Use that opportunity
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Thanks for sharing
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Running K3/True Social custom
I have a K3/Wanted custom as well, I tested tonight
I’m decided to add Wanted occasionally for the light healing, as I have some deep insecurity around actually ever being the person the woman I want most wants, although this has been healing a lot on Khan. Support recommend this or DRR for that.
ran a minute each and 10 seconds of WB before hitting the bar tonight.
Met a super cutie at the door, and we spent the whole night hitting it up -
Two of my female friends came later -one I used to date. This new chick and I joined my friends. (the group effect helped saftey but not sure about romance)
The new woman I was talking to was super engaged- and we just flowed and flirted the whole night. The silence was full of tension and hot but not awkward, and she asked me so many questions again and again and again to fill the gaps and reopen things. I was really social with everyone at the bar, and was ‘opening’ sets of people all night, just having fun flowing in and out. This woman bought me a drink and we made plans to go for drinks another night.
When my friends came things cooled off, she kept asking how I knew them. I just told her the girl I used to date- dated my brother years ago (which is actually true lol)
The kiss didn’t feel right to go for at the end of the night. She’s 10 years younger, and everything just felt really cool. It was so easy. There were moments when I had to push things consciously, but for the most part, things just flowed. It would have been cool if things got more physical at the end but at the same time- since she lives kind of close I think its better to go slower.
I drank a bit too much and could feel myself slipping into some old patterns at the end, but felt solid at the same time.
Then, on my way home, another woman was sitting on my stoop-she was very sexy and cute, but not my normal type. I felt like talking, so we just ended up shooting the breeze for like two hours vibing. She’s like 16 years younger, and at the end of the night, she asked for my phone number and asked me out. And was like I’m available on the weekends -hit me up and we’ll go out.
This really hot 50-year-old woman I got into a convo with at the bar was also pursuing me hard, but I didn’t take it anywhere because I was more vibing with the other woman.
I have not run Khan 3 solo, but so far the combo is pretty badass. Khan has me leading and doing what I want, Wanted has woman pursuing -buying me drinks, engaging, asking me out, and TS makes everything run seamlessly. I’d be curious how things would flow with one of those out of the equation, but so far, I’m digging the this. I’ve run similar subs without this level of flow before. Sometimes I think TS is too deep/strategic, so that it can have an anti-romance effect on me, but that might be recon.
I was attracted to all three women who were really engaging me; the woman who bought me a drink was way up there for my type…not like top top- but way up there.
At the grocery store earlier, I saw my PERFECT type. I didn’t have the courage -or sense of how to engage her. We eyed fxxx each other and then did full-body sweeps each time we walked past each other. It was really hot. But she was too attractive, I got in my head. The only thing I could do was find her in the grocery aisles, go back to her and do a direct open, and I was not comfortable with that. I didn’t see a situational entry.
I can see it being just a matter of time before the women I start to draw in like this are more and more my dream types, and it flows naturally.
I also think this is the effect of a lot of the intentional, healing work and coaching I’ve been doing. As well as the intention to become attractive. I know that sounds obvious, but having that intention has transformed my romance/ seduction sub results.
I’d say most of these results are TS/Khan, with Wanted pulling the dynamic for woman to pursue rather than just me lead.
While I’ve been really open to a relationship, I could feel that while speaking to them, I would feel totally comfortable telling them I’m interested in just romance and sex, just owning where I am and being fine with whatever the result, and the willingness to have what I want or let go felt like a gravity behind the scenes.
The woman I was crazy about, whose things didn’t work out with, -nothing happened between her and my friends, and now she is texting me every day again and sending pictures. Until she says she wants romance, or flies up to see me, I’ll just enjoy her sharing and encourage that.
As I become more rooted in myself and my life and see how valuable I am as a partner, everything is getting easier along the way. I’m getting that sense I had on OG khan, not like I’m better, but like no one is like me, no one…I’m the rarest there is. I don’t get this on Wanted or WB alone but they definitely help, on Khan I start to click into this sense that I am the best possible option, not from arrogance but from a certainty in my rarity as someone who will do anything to evolve and create
I also have a new attitude of pretending I’m normal financially, as I think that having fallen in love with business and wealth generation and sharing that with women is a really stupid idea. I’d been doing it the way I’d talk to any male friends but now I just steer everything away from that. It just sets the wrong precedent. Also so many people even with great jobs are just getting by so its weird to create such a delta between us. I just talk about loving work or being totally there for people.
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