Azriel-All Wealth -Rainmaker

is this a condescending laugh or something else?

im not sure what you mean here.

as you said yourself, im very blunt and direct so there should rarely be any misunderstanding when interacting with me.

no need for what?

what exactly are you talking about when you say “this”?

why?

I never asked you to defend astrology and there is nothing you could say to me that would convince me it’s legitimate.

i simply asked for your thoughts on the video i posted.

if you are not willing to watch that video and give your thoughts then no problem at all.

Something else.

It’s okay.

That’s okay too.

Just have a good day.

im not 100% sure i understand this but i think i might have created confusion when i use the word “clear”

what i mean is do i get a benefit or not.

for example, i can listen to a subliminal and very clearly see if it improves my life in any way.

that is what i mean.

im not talking about a clear yes where there is a precise quantifiable outcome which is almost impossible to get when talking about self improvement.

so i actually think we we might be on the same page here and the word “clear” created confusion

i honestly do not understand what you are asking here. maybe ask directly while including astrology in the question.

what is funny about my statement?

im genuinely curious?

i literally have no idea what you are trying to communicate here.

again, i said there is as much evidence that astrology is real as there is evidence that the earth is flat.

that is basically what i said.

are you agreeing or disagreeing here?

please do

no exactly sure what you are trying to communicate here.

are you implying im too much of a skeptc?

if that is your point, i disagree and i doubt a super skeptic would even be open to trying something like subliminals at all.

i think anyone on this forum is probably more open minded then the average human.

do you mind sharing what exactly that laugh was meant to communicate?

same to you.

I don’t mind.

It was meant to communicate the feeling I experienced when I read your post: surprised confirmation.

what feeling was that exactly?

is this the feeling?

so you were trying to communicate your feeling of surprise by writing “hahahaha”?

“hahaha” was meant to communicate “im surprised by your post”

is this what you mean?

I’m having a little trouble interpreting your tone here. I was considering simply not responding. But I’m going to try one last time.

This:

You’ve repeated the same question here about 4 or 5 times in different forms. In a face-to-face interaction, I would interpret this to mean that you were becoming angry, and were challenging the veracity of my statement.

On a discussion forum, it’s a little bit trickier. No body language. No tone of voice. No facial expressions.

So, it’s probably best to make your point directly.

But when I read your posts carefully, I believe that all of your statements are being made in good faith. I do suspect, however, that there’s a decent likelihood that you’re not deeply aware of your own emotional reactions to things and how they may enter into your responses. So, if you are really asking me a question, and not just expressing anger, here is the explanation:

  1. When you first typed, “ are you talking about astrology?”, I originally imagined that you might not be open to astrological ideas or concepts; and might even feel antipathy or even threat in response to its discussion.
  2. Later, when asked if you were “making a judgment/assessment in the form of a question” you typed: “no definitely not. and I’m surprised I’m giving that impression…” Reading that made me think, ‘Oh, I was wrong. He can handle the possibility of different perspectives. He’s just curious and asking questions.’

But then 12 hours went by and

  1. You typed: “ astrological ideas are on the same level as flat earth theory when it comes to the level of scientific i evidence backing up the claims made by astrology. I’m genuinely surprised any adult human can believe in something like that.”. And that made me think, ‘Oh, I think my original thought was correct.’

That surprised me and made me laugh. Hence, I typed ‘hahaha’. That is my sense of humor. It’s very likely not quite the same as your sense of humor.

but my laughter was not intended to be condescending.

I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but as a person who views astrology as pseudoscience you are actually on the more popular side of this issue. Most educated people in the world would, similarly to you, subscribe to the materialist paradigm represented by Newtonian physics. As such, you probably do not really need to worry about condescension being directed at you.

There are alternate potential explanations for why astrology could still work that do not require one to abandon one’s belief in the laws of classical physics. But the truth is, they’re not very difficult to unearth. Particularly with Chat-GPT available, you could review the main points of these arguments for yourself in the space of 20 minutes or so.

Debating about it does not seem worth my time right now.

So, I hope what I’m attempting to communicate makes it across to you. No, there was no condescending laughter at your expense. Yes, I was surprised (and somewhat tickled) that I turned out to be on the right track about your point of view. And as I said originally, I don’t mind very much that our points of view on this topic differ.

And now, if you want to continue this exchange, we should probably do it somewhere else. This thread was meant as a focused reflection on wealth-related work by Azriel. I am okay with all of these unrelated posts being deleted if Azriel wants to do that.

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@Malkuth

Just point me to where the convo continues!
You can pick it up my Azriel Unfolding ZP Stack if you like

@TheQuestion I’ll get back to your response at length when I can

I had a similar experience as @Malkuth around the conversation.

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I think in all the times @Malkuth has posted on here, he has NEVER been condescending. Not now. Not ever. No other hidden meaning.

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im definitely not angry.

not even 1%

if i was angry i would just ignore the post completely.

when i saw @Azriel make that post it immediately caught my attention as i never in a million years would have imagined he would believe in astrology.

as i have made it clear many times, i hold him in very high regard as his posts on this forum have helped me more then everyone else comboned.

i literally have pages of his posts saved on my computer.

so i was shocked someone i hold in such high regard could be a believe in something like astrology.

i thought to myself “no way he is talking about astrology here” and asked that question to make sure.

you and everyone else can believe in whatever you want.

again, im very direct and blunt man.

you should just assume im being 100% direct when i say things and do not look for hidden meanings.

again, i have no issues at all coming out and saying that i think astorlogy is complete nonsense on the same level as flat earth theory.

that is my stance.

im not forcing my stance on anyone but i was curious if your chance would change if i provided undeniable evidence which is why i sent you that video.

that is all bro.

nothing hidden at all in my behaviour.

again, you are not understanding me it seems.

im not looking to debate.

again, there is nothing you can say to me that would convince me astrology is real.

asking me to debate astrology would be like asking to debate if the earth is flat or if Santa Claus exists.

im simply curious what you have to say about the video i provided that contains clear evidence that astrology is 100% false.

i would appreciate if you give me your thoughts if you ever decide to watch that video.

if you are willing then yes we can discuss somewhere else.

if you are not willing, no problem of course.

you can do whatever you want.

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Thanks.

I’ll consider this done.

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understood

Alright @Malkuth and @TheQuestion
appreciate the civil discourse and challenging perspectives.
I watched the video and I’ll respond to @TheQuestion when I get to it on my other journal
Ending this on this journal now and back to talking abundance and big cash flows.

Love this

Wow
So I just took stock.
I’ve been crazy driven this last month
and have not stopped to even look at the money.
Just focused on winning in performance.

I’m been frustrated at not doing what I want to do or envision

This month I’ve run EOG, HOM, True Sell for Two weeks.
10 Days of Rich, and then back to EOG, True Sell, and HOM

  • 1 loop of genesis.

Any way I did the math and I’ve added $12K to my income, working hours of my choice flexibility around the other work I do. My performance is only getting better and better- that’s the tip of the ice berg.

Now I do want to have my own business and build empires. I can already feel inner judge- saying ‘that’s nothing-people wipe their ass with that etc’ , what are you going do sales and consulting for the rest of your life etc…but I’m pausing for a second.

I’ve had great financial increases over time during my 3 years at subclub but this is a big jump- its an addition $144K a year more. If I improve it could be $200K or even 300K more.

Now I’m used to doing my own taxes on a 1099 with business write offs- so I was not used to how much get’s eaten- it’s crazy lol.

And I want to take a moment to celebrate. EOG, HOM, True Sell -maybe RICH - a lot of work and action-$12,000 more/month than what I was earning before in 1 month turn around, That’s kind of freaking awesome.

Maybe it was some RICH - cause I’m feeling the ridiculous income flowing in.

Every time I post wins I get slammed with the next challenge.

So declaring it only gets better from here, could be effortless, could be some challenges. All good.

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Actually the fact that I did not even notice the money
is a factor of EOG mostly, possibly some HOM
It’s become a game- my focus is on the game itself and creating value so much that I lost track of the score.

My biggest earnings were weeks where I didn’t run RICH, or ran Rich minimally (couple minutes) in the week.

HOM drives big manifestation close sales, relatability and pending sales. True Sell drives sales performance. HOM supports with balancing both work roles intelligently and strategically. HOM also gives me insane confidence on big money. WAAY more than RICH. EOG Stage 3 is like the engine behind everything. Keeping things focused, productive, positive and value driven. It also has me present to the world of business itself. Its an interesting interplay, too much HOM can drive down the crispness, and potency of my calls, because they have to be 1/2 hour ideally and HOM gets way to related and relaxed, the energy is not forward driving the way True Sell is. I’ll write more extensively on the difference in the future.

Anyway I can now feel the different energies and scripting of HOM, EOG, and True Sell and how they interplay, it’s clear as day what does what and drives what value.

It’s like all of a sudden I can see the matrix of what they are and how they interact with me and each other.

RICH, I’m not there yet, it made me crazy trying to perform and produce results, but it drove down sales performance, patience, listening, emotional intelligence, quality of interaction, and everyone felt more like a waste of time, it was too analytical. Could still be recon I will play with it a bit more, and maybe I’m getting some bloom. But I don’t have it figured out yet.

I did get 1 RICH manifestation though. A couple hours of running RICH I went to a Best Buy, because I had a credit line with $100 left on it, and I wanted $140 worth of gear there. I went to check my balance to make sure I at least had the hundred and without asking best buy had added $1000 to my credit line.
I did get 1 RICH manifestation though. A couple hours of running RICH I went to a Best Buy, because I had a credit line with $100 left on it, and I wanted $140 worth of gear there. I went to check my balance to make sure I at least had the hundred and without asking best buy had added $1000 to my credit line.

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Another $3k in commission today in 5 hours
That has me at $15K new personal revenue this month
Money is flowing in.
I feel like I’m in a different sphere.
Also connected with incredibly successful affluent people.

Also my credit lines are shooting up
Home Depot added $3k without my asking.

Then gave me another $5K line upon request
my credit score is not good lately and before I started EOG stage 3 and RICH
I had been turned down for credit line increases.

This results are awesome.
Things are getting better and better as declared.
It’s just building.

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Time for an update
I did $105K in sales in my first month

The 2 days before the month started I did $30K but it did not count towards my month net sales.
Comparatively this puts me in top 10 on team of 50 but not top 5, which is my goal

So I’m $95K short of my first month goal.

This month I was on vacation mostly and have done $35k in the 8 days I’ve been back.

I’m still frustrated at times with the inconsistency and knowing how and when to make a difference to move things, especially with follow ups.

I have lost sight of my other larger goals outside of sales performance
Business Development I’m coasting
My own entrepreneurial creation I have not been invovled in
I have one meeting around my digitial product creation next Friday.
I have to put time in my calendar and keep these other ventures in existence, otherwise all my energy goes towards sales. It’s ‘addictive’ not really -but incredibly engaging, the immediate feedback, the results, and of course the learning to develop meta- and situational awareness of managing disruptive emotions and knowing what to do when has been somewhat of a ‘spiritual’ Journey.

I’m re-setting my goal in the next two week to his $300K total in sales
I have $120K lined up in 3 prospects alone in the next week, declaring I’ll fulfill the close.

Challenges/ Clearing

  1. Still not effectively addressing ‘I need to think about it’ as much as I’d like. This can be a heuristic counter to impulsiveness or not being taken ‘advantage of’, an intelligent decision, a cop from pressure, an anxiety about uncertainty, uncertainty about process/product, a hide that they are researching other companies etc… it takes a lot of discernment to address this effectively, and to not emotionally react when one hears it again and again.
  2. Comparison-I’m hyper competitive which drives me but also can become a hook on feeling worse when others are succeeding
  3. Well being- I can go into working to much and not disengaging enough, I’m not managing my wealth being, health, or quality of life. Especially if I am ‘failing’ or underperforming it’s really hard to walk away or focus on anything else.
  4. I got a taste of life on KB stage 1 and my trip to Europe and want more of that. I’m really confronted by the lack of time in the day- 8am -2am I’m non stop intentional not all work but all commitments in development and training, reading, book clubs, working out etc - with a small break while I eat one decedent meal at night. With sales there is a huge opportunity cost when I spend hours without results. It is the nature of the game. My goal is to hit that $300K monthly or at least be able to hit $200K a month with ease and then open up my focus.
  5. I’m not clear what in my stack is doing what. My most effective weeks have definitely been when HOM was in the stack by FAR.
  6. Could be stack related but it seems every third week I do INCREDIBLY well. It does not have to do with pipeline or minimally. Want to get to the source of this.
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Testing EB Black this week
Alongside true sell and EOG stage 3

I also test BDLM for a little bit and it might be one of my fav subs. Will share that on the BDLM thread.

I got to vent and clear.
This is a pure recon rant. It’s pretty much just to clear.
Of course, I’m open to discerning feedback where relevant from those who have a context of me and my journey.

I am so fucking annoyed. Maybe EB alchemizing. But the inconsistency in my performance is fucking pissing me off, I’m present to a sense of ‘victimyness and unfairness’ at the quality of leads that are distributed . We switched marketing companies and its fucking bs. I feel super competitive and I’m losing and I hate it. Pushing more is not working. I’m angry that ‘subs’. I am seriously concerned I can’t get where I want, that I have no control over what makes the difference, that what I thought was something incredible is just another version of me failing. Seeing others win has me hate everything more. Not sure what to do or what’s happening. I want to turn this into effectiveness, I feel a massive block in effectiveness. I’m in a bind from being to intense/ intentionally and too related. Having trouble finding that middle ground. Last week was not a great week for me and this week is not looking much better. Still have 2.5 days to turn it around. being this upset, attached, and annoyed, is not helping, and I’m starting to feel a bit ‘helpless’ with making things happen. Part of my recon is I’m angry at subs there not ‘hitting for me’ not manifesting creating the flow I want. lol I know that’s not on subs and it’s recon but it feels so real right now.

Damn - EB is dark, and gets deep.

My intention is to turn this around to a $60K+ week.

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Not sure if I want to keep EB in the stack.
I’m going to finish and order my custom tonight. HOM/True Sell.
That combo is too tried and true

I’ll probably do the new custom voice thing in a bit. But I’ve never run a ZP custom. So I’ll start there.

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