Azriel-All Wealth -Rainmaker

This is AI talking to itself on switching modes.

i.e. how I feel when changing stacks or running something new :joy:

Not quite like that but existential analysis aside, it is really interesting to see what stays immutable and what so cleary changes with subs. Not just my own persistent ‘inauthentic’ conditioning/samskaras/karma but also the unique expression of me that works with ZP.

I do sometimes question my own efficacy without them, are they like cheat code, do they last/persist? With such rapid differences when exposed to scripting. In the end it doesn’t matter since life is life, and results are results. Obviously subs gives leverage and effect to make meaningful change and produce results, I don’t have imposter syndrome, but some times I have the insecurity that whatever I build will only last as long as the nearest input.

Maintaining worth through effort, edge is also always been an asset and liability.

I am in a playful space of musings, and this is all very light and humorous in my exploration.

Reports wised closed at a $50K sales week. Very very solid. C&C has not moved the bar meaningful from my baseline sales wise. But I am enjoying many elements of the sub now that it is paired with ASBR.

I don’t know if I will revert back to my old stack or continue with this one. C &C is definitely something I want to be running long term, but I will need to see I can perform at peak levels sales wise before locking it in.

I also have aggravated a minor injury, so perhaps paragon soon when it drops.

Year 2025 was for me an off year, subs wise. Maybe a total of 10 loops, if I remember correctly. 2024 I was more into RoM and RoS. Learned a lot about the chaos that’s constantly going on inside my head.

I do notice some deviation from my purely wealth related sub usage. But… The parts I integrated from Emperor are still there.

Now I’m just wondering how I differ from you guys who notice the results immediately. To me, they seem to be permanent. Because that’s who I am now.

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The overall character effects and results seem very stable and long term.
And everything I’ve created in my life using them as a tool is still here and growing/compounding.

The short term immediate state/mood/ aura effects definitely shift from sub to sub, and become less acute over time when on different subs/no longer running those, but that is not the point of subs just a fun part for some people.

I can see those also become more activatable / situationally over time

This more more a fun musing than a deep inquiry into the long term efficacy of subs.
I know they are a profound tool that can create enduring change.

Nothing is permanent

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That kind of remind me of Invictus tips (which you may have already read), especially regarding self-induced dependance on subs.

It’s important to recall that these subs are tools, they are amazing tools but they are tools, they don’t change you, only you can change you.

Subs “just” give your subconscious self all the tools, techniques and knowledge, needed to reach what goals you want to reach, it’s your subconscious self that use this tools to build pathways for money to flow in, to seduce people with your charisma, to improve your memory recall and pattern-finding skills, and other amazing stuff.

You are the one who did all this! You are the one who became the top salesman in your company! You are the one who built your life to be as good as it is now.

It is easier to dig a hole with a backhoe than with a shovel, but in both case they would be useless without the wisdom of the operator and whatever the operator directs (either their body or the motor) to perform the maneuvers and dig.

So regardless of what you use to supplement your learning of the capabilities that sleep within yourself, they become yours as long as you appropriate them.
Those capabilities are always within you, subs just push potentials to the surface so you may either appreciate and use, or accept and discard/let go.

We are beings of infinite potential, what we want to become we will become, because we can. Whatever you learn, see, experience, consume (including subs), give us new capabilities and new potentials. Either we can seize these potentials or we can let them go.

Even if we let potentials sleep, it’s not the end of the world, potential is always there until we find how to transform it so it become usable. Though we may only transform something we feel and see.

If I eat at Macdonald, I get the possibility of becoming fatter, or of becoming sick, or of killing some of my gut biome and thus reducing my defenses and mood longer term. If I workout, I get the possibility of becoming stronger, building muscle tissue,or of being healthier, of dynamising and reinforcing our immune system through effort, of reinforcing the endocrinal system, of improving mood.

And my guess for the fitness subs would be that they give tools to your subconscious, that control your body, to become conscious of all of these.
Helping your subconscious become more aware of all that underline the act of working out, what we may expect to happen, and what bodily mechanism may be used to reinforce these.

And so, as a result, our subconscious get more motivated toward doing that, if that’s something you want as a goal.
So really, subs are imo better seen as learning tools and aids, than something that change you, because subs can’t change us, only us can change ourselves.

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Current custom

  • A Stark Black Reality Core
  • Emperor: Crown & Capital
  • New Wealth Experience Core
  • Cosmic Navigator
  • Ebon Maneuver
  • Synergy: Carpe Vitam
  • Synergy: Divine Dominion
  • Synergy: The Golden One
  • Essence: The Unyielding Perfect
  • Essence: Total War

Edit: Not sure if NWE is overkill with Crown & Capital.

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It seems that most people think that everything is permanent. Their skills, thoughts, life situation. Learned helplessness.

The me… either think they can’t change themselves, or are afraid to do it.

Doesn’t really matter why. The only way to grow is to discard the old self. Just decide to build yourself into whatever you want to be.

And that changes, over time.

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In case useful, posting a clarifying question to support

What are the main differences between Crown & Capital, and EOG at each stage, respectively?

In what use cases would one be used vs. the other?
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5 hours ago

Hi,

Great question! Crown & Capital (C&C) and Ecstasy of Gold (EOG) are both excellent wealth-building titles, but they have fundamentally different philosophies and structures. Let me break this down comprehensively for you.

Structural Overview

Emperor: Crown & Capital – $34.99, Single Unified Title

  • A complete, unified experience focused on sovereign authority + systematic wealth construction
  • Built on the Emperor lineage (upgrade from House of Medici)
  • Think: Dynasty builder, strategic architect, institutional operator

The Ecstasy of Gold Multistage – $99, Four Independent Stages

  • Four separate titles unified by purpose, can be used in ANY order
  • Each stage is 30-60 days recommended
  • Think: Wealth masterclass, passion-to-profit, inner gold excavation

The key structural difference: C&C is a cohesive system you run as-is, while EOG is modular – you choose which stage fits your current needs.

Crown & Capital vs. EOG Stage 1: Foundations

EOG Stage 1: “Advanced Foundation + Purpose Discovery”

Focus: Healing wealth trauma, discovering your purpose through joy, releasing scarcity programming

Key Features:

  • Roots of Scarcity (release inherited limiting beliefs)
  • Healing Wealth Trauma (emotional wounds around money)
  • Worthiness Recalibration (deserve abundance)
  • Money as Energy (reframe relationship with wealth)
  • Wealth from Passion (align financial pursuits with joy)
  • Foundations of Wealth (budgeting, saving, planning as empowerment)

Philosophy: Dig within yourself to find the “gold” – what brings you purpose and joy. Heal past wounds. Build from emotional/energetic alignment first.

Crown & Capital’s Approach:

Focus: Internal sovereignty, strategic thinking, privacy protection, systematic wealth structures

Key Features:

  • The Emperor’s Crown (sovereign decision-making from internal authority)
  • Emperor’s Presence (gravitational authority without announcement)
  • The Chessboard Empire (think in decades, not quarters)
  • Capital Focus (direct energy toward capital-producing actions)
  • Wealth Ladder (shift from transactional to ownership thinking)

Philosophy: Authority first, capital second. Make decisions like a sovereign. Think like a dynasty builder from day one.

Main Difference:

EOG Stage 1 = Healing + Discovery – “What do I truly want? What’s blocking me? How do I align wealth with my inner self?”

C&C = Authority + Structure – “I decide. I govern. I build systems that endure. I move strategically.”

Use EOG Stage 1 if: You have wealth trauma, scarcity mindset, or need to discover your purpose/passion first.

Use C&C if: You’re ready to think strategically, make sovereign decisions, and build empire structures immediately.

Crown & Capital vs. EOG Stage 2: Tools & Skills

EOG Stage 2: “Core Business/Career Skills + Income Generation”

Focus: Practical tools for entrepreneurs and career professionals to generate income NOW

Key Features:

  • Decoding Customer Desires (deep audience understanding)
  • Magnetic Marketing Strategies (captivating campaigns)
  • Data-Driven Wealth (turn data into insights)
  • Digital Influence (authentic online presence)
  • Value Proposition Crafting (articulate unique worth)
  • Conversion Catalyst (turn interest into action)
  • Scaling for Success (build sustainable systems)
  • Passive Income Streams (financial stability)
  • Networking with Purpose (authentic relationships)
  • Monetizing Creativity (passion → tangible wealth)
  • Leadership for Wealth (inspire teams)
  • Financial Literacy Essentials (master fundamentals)

Philosophy: Here are the tools. Here are the skills. Whether you’re launching a product, climbing the career ladder, or generating income – these are the practical competencies you need.

Crown & Capital’s Approach:

Focus: High-value networks, information control, negotiation, quality filtering, strategic execution

Key Features:

  • Inner Circle: Alliance Architect (organize relationships into tiers)
  • Inner Circle: Golden Crown (earn access to high-value networks)
  • The Political Edge (institutional literacy, how power flows)
  • Information Command (control narrative, manage attention)
  • The Attractor (high-leverage opportunities arrive naturally)
  • Premium Pipeline (filter for quality, release misalignment)
  • Negotiator’s Scepter (calm authority, frame terms)
  • True Sell: Execution Steel (finish what you start)
  • Emperor’s Discernment (share less, build in silence)

Philosophy: Quality over quantity. Filter ruthlessly. Build high-value networks intentionally. Control information. Execute with discipline. Let results speak.

Main Difference:

EOG Stage 2 = Skills Acquisition – “Here’s how to market, sell, scale, network, lead, monetize – the practical toolkit.”

C&C = Selective Mastery – “Here’s how to filter for quality, access elite networks, control information, negotiate from authority.”

Use EOG Stage 2 if: You need practical business/marketing skills, want to learn how to generate income, scale operations, or monetize creativity.

Use C&C if: You’re ready to operate at higher levels – elite networks, strategic positioning, institutional power, quality filtering.

Crown & Capital vs. EOG Stage 3: Advanced Wealth Concepts

EOG Stage 3: “Higher-Level Wealth + Breaking Ceilings”

Focus: For those hitting wealth ceilings or building stronger foundations for future success

Key Features:

  • The Millionaire’s Mindset (mental frameworks of the wealthy)
  • Ideation and Vision Crafting (abstract ideas → actionable visions)
  • Manifesting Creativity into Reality (execution of ideas)
  • The Art of a Grand Debut (impactful launches)
  • The Language of Wealth (understand value flow)
  • The Dance of Market Forces (navigate market dynamics)
  • Mastering Risk vs. Reward (balance ambition with caution)
  • Passive Income Mastery (enduring value systems)
  • Creating a Winning Network (amplify growth through relationships)
  • Magnetic Presence (undeniable energy that draws others)
  • Time as Currency (most precious resource)
  • Uncovering Hidden Niches (untapped market potential)
  • Disruptive Value Propositions (change the game)

Philosophy: Higher-level thinking. Break internal wealth ceilings. Understand market forces. Think like millionaires think. Refine ideas into innovation. Master the interplay of risk, timing, and opportunity.

Crown & Capital’s Approach:

Focus: Multigenerational thinking, dynasty building, crisis navigation, legacy construction

Key Features:

  • The Chessboard Empire (think in systems, not transactions; decades, not quarters)
  • The Flow of Power (read hierarchies, position where opportunity circulates)
  • The Crown’s Shield (privacy, contingency, protection)
  • Treasury Shield (layered structures, diversified foundations, risk management)
  • Tax Mastery (lawful planning, clean records, proactive compliance)
  • Market Instinct (read sentiment beneath numbers, patience in timing)
  • House of the Emperor (build for generations, systems that outlast you, reputation as inheritance)

Philosophy: Think beyond your lifetime. Build structures that endure. Protect what matters. Navigate institutions. Create dynasty-level wealth. Crisis is opportunity for composed leadership.

Main Difference:

EOG Stage 3 = Breaking Ceilings + Sophisticated Thinking – “Think like millionaires. Master markets. Find hidden niches. Disrupt industries. Manifest big ideas.”

C&C = Multigenerational Strategy – “Think in dynasties. Build for your grandchildren. Protect the fortress. Navigate institutions. Operate like old money.”

Use EOG Stage 3 if: You’re hitting internal wealth limits, want to think more sophisticatedly about markets/risk/opportunity, or need to level-up your wealth mindset.

Use C&C if: You’re thinking legacy, multigenerational wealth, dynasty building, institutional positioning, and long-term empire architecture.

Crown & Capital vs. EOG Stage 4: Mastery

EOG Stage 4: “Deep High-Level Concepts + Total Mastery”

Focus: Shortest stage, deepest concepts – shatter remaining wealth ceilings

Key Features:

  • Market Resonance Mapping (align with unspoken desires)
  • Scaling Your Social Capital (trust and mutual support)
  • Seeing Beyond Limits (redefine boundaries)
  • The Invisible Assets (reputation, relationships, knowledge)
  • Mastering Second-Order Thinking (ripple effects of decisions)
  • Small Risk, Big Gains (asymmetric opportunities)
  • The Freedom to Pivot (adaptability as strength)
  • Own the Platform (build ecosystems, not just products)
  • The Compound Effect of Reputation (trust as capital)
  • The Edge of Comfort (growth lives in uncertainty)
  • Filtering Gold (say no to distractions)
  • Scaling with Systems (structure supports expansion)
  • Proactive Wealth (deliberate cultivation)
  • Unseen Opportunities (hidden in plain sight)
  • The Skill Mosaic (unique blend of abilities)
  • Maximizing Momentum (effort → effortless progress)
  • Mastery of Scaling (controlled, intentional growth)

Philosophy: The deepest concepts. Second-order thinking. Invisible assets. Compound reputation. Platform ownership. True mastery of wealth psychology and strategy.

Crown & Capital’s Approach:

Focus: Operates at mastery level throughout (it’s the upgraded Emperor lineage)

C&C integrates mastery-level thinking into its unified structure:

  • Platform thinking: Golden Crown (high-value network access)
  • Invisible assets: Information Command, Emperor’s reputation
  • Second-order thinking: The Chessboard Empire (think moves ahead)
  • Compound reputation: House of the Emperor (reputation as inheritance)
  • Strategic filtering: Premium Pipeline, Emperor’s Discernment

Philosophy: Mastery isn’t a stage – it’s how you operate from day one as sovereign.

Main Difference:

EOG Stage 4 = Conceptual Mastery – “Understand the deepest principles of wealth. Master the invisible game. Think in second-order effects.”

C&C = Integrated Mastery – “These mastery concepts are woven into your sovereign operating system from the start.”

Use EOG Stage 4 if: You’ve built wealth but want the deepest conceptual understanding, or you want to “install” mastery-level thinking about reputation, systems, and invisible assets.

Use C&C if: You want mastery-level thinking integrated into a practical empire-building system rather than as abstract concepts.

Use Case Decision Framework

Choose Ecstasy of Gold if you:

  • Need emotional/energetic healing around wealth (Stage 1)
  • Are discovering your purpose/passion and want to align wealth with joy (Stage 1)
  • Need practical business/marketing skills – you’re launching products, building businesses, monetizing creativity (Stage 2)
  • Are an entrepreneur or career professional wanting specific tools and competencies (Stage 2)
  • Hit a wealth ceiling and need to break through limiting beliefs (Stage 3)
  • Want to understand wealth at a conceptual/philosophical level – market forces, risk, timing, hidden niches (Stage 3-4)
  • Prefer modular learning – pick the stage that fits your current situation
  • Want the “masterclass” approach – progressive education through wealth concepts

EOG Personality: Excavator, learner, passion-aligned creator, journey-focused, healing-oriented, skill-builder

Choose Crown & Capital if you:

  • Think strategically and want to operate like dynasty builders/old money
  • Value sovereignty and internal authority over external validation
  • Want to build multigenerational wealth structures that outlast you
  • Operate in institutional/high-value environments or want to access them
  • Prioritize privacy, discretion, and information control
  • Filter ruthlessly – you want quality networks and opportunities, not quantity
  • Think long-term (decades, not quarters) and want systematic empire architecture
  • Are drawn to the Emperor archetype – commanding, strategic, composed, authoritative
  • Want integrated mastery rather than progressive stages

C&C Personality: Emperor, strategist, dynasty builder, sovereign decision-maker, institutional operator, legacy architect

Can You Stack Them?

Yes, but carefully:

  • EOG Stage 1 + C&C: Good combo if you need healing/purpose discovery (EOG S1) while building sovereign authority (C&C)
  • EOG Stage 2 + C&C: Possible but redundant – both address wealth skills, may be conflicting approaches (EOG = broad skills; C&C = selective mastery)
  • EOG Stage 3-4 + C&C: Advanced concepts (EOG) + practical dynasty building (C&C) could work well
  • Sequential approach: Run EOG stages 1-4 (4-8 months), then transition to C&C for long-term empire building

My Recommendation:

If you’re just starting wealth journey or have trauma/blocks: Start with EOG Stage 1 (healing + foundation), then consider C&C later.

If you’re building a business and need practical skills: EOG Stage 2 is your toolkit.

If you’re ready to think strategically and build empire structures NOW: Crown & Capital – it’s more focused, less expensive, and gets you operating like a sovereign immediately.

If you want comprehensive wealth education: EOG full progression (Stages 1→2→3→4) is the masterclass approach.

If you’re drawn to the Emperor archetype and long-term legacy: Crown & Capital – this is dynasty thinking from day one.

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Thank you for this!

I came to similar conclusions after running C&C. Though, I’m going to rather go with Genesis Mogul → EOG → C&C, I can’t explain why but it feels more right haha. Despite adaptive scripting, it feels like progression from easier titles to C&C is more efficient for now. Though, I think with development of Adaptive Scripting, eventually it won’t be necessary at all

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Weeks, Sales Revenue, rounded down, sub stack

January 1-3- $48K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW

January 4-10 - $83K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW

January 11- 17 $34K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW

January 18-24 $58K ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW

January 25- 31st $54K ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH

February 1st-3rd $5k ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW

$165,000 vs. $117,000 - (with a couple extra days in og stacks favor, can reassess Friday) originally stack is metrically performing higher so far, and this is the first month I didn’t crush out the gate with $50K + in 3 days.

Experientially, I am working 3-5x as hard on calls for the same sales, lead quality is way down, fewer fills, and more challenging. This could be the highlight of the premium pipeline, but my intuition feels more like a negative haze on most calls. And I am coming across to people in a very specific way in people’s feedback. What I perceived as recon before is fading signficantly but I think my strong weeks on C&C were also from bloom.

Metrically C&C is not improving in the domain of sales so far. It is helping with other actions and effects, which I will journal about soon. Giving this week to C&C to pull through, or going back to the original stack for now, before re-introducing it in a different way or with a different strategy.

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Continuing to just process my experience here.

Every time I talk to people, they clam up or bring an equal measure of ‘business bluntness.’
It’s almost too high status -this was mitigated initially in a custom but now C&C is shinging through with ASBR.

That sweet middle ground of business in a loving fun way where we were being of value to each other is gone. My ability to deal really effectively with challenging people is gone, probably the pipeline filter, I don’t/won’t /can’t deal with challenging people looking to be in a control dynamic.

The pipeline filter acts like a strong repellent to many, and then when things click, they really click but that is SOO rare the last few weeks.

Honestly, I think part of this is that C&C also highlights where there is so much more for me than this job, I am struggling with the strong sense of strength and movement in other things, but losing my fluidity and acceptance in this role.

Towards end of day I’ve hit strong recon mode.

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Go with your intuition for sure.

Have you tried C&C yet though?

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first phrase of my post haha

I came to similar conclusions after running C&C

lol Yea, read it too fast. Can you say more specifically about your experience that had you decide that, or point me to where you already said that .

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Sure, I was running it since release. Basically, it feels like I’m not even scratching the surface on C&C and some of the changes are not appropriate at my level. The sub is for a very long time frame and I believe that it’s best to run it when you are already in a good and stable financial place, focusing not on active income (through work, freelancing, whatever) but rather the end stages of business (in which you are creating a system so that the business can run and grow without your presence and daily actions) OR moving away from active income and focusing on investing or similar means of creating a structure of passive income

At least that’s my definition of “legacy”, related to the Capital part. A structure that will outlive you and keep growing even without your presence and daily actions.

I’m currently at a level in which I’ll benefit much more from increasing my active income, without really giving my full attention to investments and large capital structure. Like, I’m currently better off investing in my knowledge, health and living conditions to make myself more efficient, happy, productive and capable. And C&C makes me more focused on capital structures first.

The thing is, if I directly do that, I’ll be making overall slower progress because of less efficiency

Adaptive scripting didn’t really help me with that, instead it only guided my actions towards creating capital structure, so to speak. For example, I put part of my income into investments (crypto, knowledge, health - really broad category, not just financial gain in mind) and with C&C I started putting all of it into DeFi and stocks, rather than acquiring new courses, buying necessary supplements or gym equipment. While it isn’t right or wrong overall, it is wrong FOR ME

And this guiding was in everything, which diverted my attention from the basics: improve my skillset, network with people, improve my living condition

Also, the Crown part also guides me to become a bit too serious, and has a feel that “I don’t have X cashflow, I have to fix it asap, so I’m going full serious mode”.

Also, I totally understand that it might be recon, calibration and stuff like that but it really seems much more beneficial for me to go through Mogul and EOG, closing the basics first before going back to C&C. I accept that I might be missing out by not just continuing to run C&C and adapting slowly, but so far, Mogul seems like a much better fit. I also did EOG1 and 2 but decided to go through the progression I outlined in previous post, thinking it’s going to be more beneficial

Well, that was a long text, hope it makes sense haha

EDIT: Maybe even ideal transition would be Genesis Mogul + RICH/NRICH → EOG + Emperor → C&C

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Does this include the money you’re receiving by your ex calling your “old leads” as well?

Just wondering since that “situation” seemed to be pretty much exactly what CC was about, and maybe even how you should develop the situation to be?

Otherwise I like the concrete numbers to measure results.

I think that was an element of discovering a new way to structure the pipeline. In the end, though, due to opportunity and lead ‘ownership’ rules at the company I’m at, it ended up being only $5K of revenue on my end one week.

Thank you for the full description here. It makes total sense, and it’s good to hear your experience reflected.

I am experiencing something similar.

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Saint, I wanted to take this here, not to derail that thread.

I really don’t mean to be nitpicky or be contrarian, and maybe I’m just misunderstanding the obvious, but I want to clarify.

Metrically, there is a gain and loss sure, and since game theory suggests one person’s gain is directly proportional to another’s loss, this is accurate, but my understanding in open ended systems like the world or the economy its only in the case of theft and loss, where a transfer, not an exchange, occurs that is would consistute as a gain or loss. If someone gives me $20 for a service that is not a net loss for them, even though their down $20

zero-sum games accurately model situations with a fixed pool of money, where resources are transferred rather than created.

That could be very useful when managing money and/or structuring money, which is part of C&C’s purpose. But it does not account for value creation/ exchange, which are practical, measurable, tangible, and repeatable. Does C&C address these at all?

A wealth-creation mindset that treats money as a zero-sum game will be anything but practical; it will be limiting and even negatively impactful.

So I imagine you’re talking about a zero-sum game in fixed-system instances, like set amounts of capital that C&C addresses, not the mindset behind it?

The value creation and exchange elements of money are also incredibly practical

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A very simple example for this is buying a pair or jeans.
If I spend 20$ on a new pair, these jeans have a higher value for me than the 20$ bill in my pocket. If the jeans would be worth 20$ to me, I wouldn’t sit in my car, drive to the store and do a simple exchange where I don’t make a gain.
Instead I would stay at home, not wasting the time to get the jeans.
But if I need a new pair of Jeans they have a higher value to me than the 20$ I need to spend.

Watching a movie in a theater for 30$?
I do this because I value the fun, the relaxation higher than the money.

In each exchange I need to make a gain or I wouldn’t do it.

That’s the basic of exchange.

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