One loop every other day like the instructions says, when you say transforming too fasts it kinda hit me, I sometimes feel weird for not having any anxiety or thoughts and not caring in general while speaking to others, like I’m more of myself but I used to hide it and now I don’t hide it and it feels weird sometimes I get anxiety for not having anxiety.
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How about doing 3 minutes every other day?
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Is it enough tho? I mean imma do 15 min until I finish the first cycle I have 2 more days so I might as well finish it.
But maybe next cycle I will do it I dunno
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More than enough.
I assumed your stress had reduced by the end of the cycle.
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I had an anxiety attack last night I thought I was going to die, couldn’t fall asleep for like 5 hours, but when I fell asleep I slept like I was knocked out.
So I don’t think my stress decreased, so you advice on 3 min every other day? And what you think about adding pcc next cycle?
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Amor is correct. This is confirmed by SaintSovereign:
If you are having too much recon, try 3 mins of the audio. And work up to 15 mins
Go for it. I have run PCC and it is a fabulous title for social genuis and charisma.
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Sounds like his overexposing tremendously.
It’s best if he eases into his new life, faster and faster by using momentum.
Less discomfort, panic and stress.
@Lion, I think you were using Ascension right, did you have any of those symptoms he described?
I’ve had it often before when I ran something so far out and which such incredible intensity it caused a total non sensical fear and panic.
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I already did a full cycle (almost) of listening 15 every other day, is there any point in doing 3 min the next cycle? Like maybe my mind got used to it
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Am using Ascension now. The recon is minimal. I think it is because I have run more dense subs before.
But it does happen once in a while. It’s natural since the beliefs in your subconcious is trying to reconcile with the ones in the subliminal.
If you are used to the 15 mins, you can continue with the same.
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Thanks bro, imma add pcc next cycle and maybe add commander the cycle after it.
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Since you are experiencing such horrid reactions in the form of stress, anxiety and panic.
You may want to do less, right? It will be easier, it’s worth a try, the results will remain similar perhaps even better with less of those negative reactions.
But you have to decide.
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Amor is right, for a start try 7 minutes whether it is better.
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Actually, I’m considering doing the same with the Custom I just ordered.
Results come with time, patience is a beautiful virtue for a reason because the patient do attain success.
3 mins, should be enough to see consistent growth and prominent results without being overwhelmed in the beginning.
From my own experience, if I listen to 7 minutes I need 3 rest days, 5 minutes 2 days and from 3min 1 day.
Currently doing 5 minutes.
And from 15 minutes I haven’t had many results and at the end of a month, I felt overloaded.
Thank you for sharing results have been similar for me.
I tried 3 minutes and had far better results as compared to 15 mins, on the latter it felt like I stonewalled instantly.
It’s also more consistent because with 3 mins I can listen more often instead of having to do a loop once a week.
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Are you having only one rest day in between?
Honestly, when I listen to two titles in one day for 5 minutes my REM phase is around 1h 10 min.
Usually, it is around 1h 40 min.
I think for many 15 mins (at least for me it is too much) is just too much and I wish we had a less intense version of Zero Point for me the best results are when I have the subliminal processing but still have an immense amount of energy to execute and act on them.
I take more rest days.
But if I listen to only 3 min I won’t listen to the whole script, doesn’t the full scrip is the entire 15 mins loop?
This is the question that no one knows except Saint and Fire and they did not tell us about that so far.