I always thought it was a step up good but not like that powerful.
Come to think of it, I’ve seen some pretty fast results from my customs compared to regular runs, I’m actually tempted to change my WB to a name embedding, not the custom one but the major program one and use omnidimensional as the module…an infinite ways for women to seduce me
Yes. It is. The way I like to explain the difference between regular and name embedded tracks is this: say you’re looking for motivational tracks to listen to while you’re working out.
You can go on YouTube and find a bunch of generic ones. Might even find a few AI ones that sound like your favorite influencer, celebrity or fictional character. That’s regular subs. Really helpful, more easily accessible, and they get the job done if you find the right ones to suit your needs.
Now imagine how much harder those tracks would hit if you had your best friend, your romantic partner, or better yet, you yourself as the voice you were listening to for motivation while working out. Imagine hearing your own voice talking to you, hyping you up, saying EXACTLY what YOU needed to hear; THAT’S name embedded subs. Far more personable, speaking directly to YOUR subconscious in a way that makes it far more likely to listen because the track tricks your subconscious by personalizing the message behind the script
I know that’s not an exact analogy, but I hope that helps
Destructive is a strong word.
Disruptive would be the better choice.
With SC subs disruption is easily achievable.
Considering that the right sub can cause intense recon with just a minute, imagine what a full loop can do, or even several.
Even less overexposure adds up over time.
In the beginning of my SC journey I only used full loops and added a loop here and there out of curiosity.
I was so overloaded that I had serious trouble writing coherent sentences.
A washout of two weeks solved it completely for me.
No idea how to answer that brother. I suppose the two options are to push through using subliminal programs and overcome the underlying issues and barriers that cause the pressures. Or discontinuing until it has completely faded out of my system and overcome it naturally.
I don’t know what it is or how to fix it to be very honest.
I do a lot of yoga and my mind is very empty, I barely think anything, when I close my mind it is just emptiness, my body feels light and at ease, stress is barely existent for me but then when I either run a program I still get hit with the same symptoms and when I discontinue the withdrawal recon also hits me. I am however doing fine it is just that I do not seem to be compatible somehow.
I just work with 1 min loops now but still got issues it is just shorter in duration. The results are mild as well. Still get hit with the same kind of terror, anxiousness, confusion, emotional numbness.
1 min lol! Crazy…
I guess it is just the nature of my mind and how it reacts to the stimuli.
I have it on every title it is not quite the same as reconciliation I feel it is more of a processing issue and that my mind is withholding a lot of information that is not being executed putting a sort of pressure upon the neurological system.
I notice whenever I do energy work or even just sit cross legged on the ground my entire both feet will start tingeling like there is a tremendous amount of electricity in the system not being discharged.
Even now I am feeling it. It is always there. In certain postures it will just intensify.
Have you tried to go even lower?
One users GF had good results with 10seconds once a week.
Longer or more frequent exposure lead to hefty recon for her IIRC.
With all due respect I find this a little ridiculous even with 30 secs I barely see any results it is very mild. At around 5 mins I will see worthwhile results but the overexposure symptoms get too much. On 30 seconds I see barely anything. Why should I go even lower?!
Run 3 seconds lol?
Btw I had VERY good results before there is just no logic behind it anymore, everything is inconsistent for me. Sometimes it happens out of nowhere for no obvious reason…
People are incredibly obsessed with the idea of “getting the full script”, to the point of ignoring what we’ve been saying for the past year on this. The technology to support microloops has been developed a long time ago (and refined/updated many times) and works well.
We ourselves personally use microloops at times for different aspects (including testing), 10s microloops as well.
Sounds like an extremely deep seated blockage that needs slow and methodical working through.
Or potentially unbalanced energetic practice. Mixing energetic practice with subliminals can be a very delicate task, and if there is disbalance within the energy practice, that can cause weird effects even just by itself. Yoga is quite common with these issues, due to pushing vast amounts of energy through the head and most modern systems and teachers not caring about burning the system.
The worst part of disbalanced practice is that this can feel good and powerful to the practitioner. They’ll get all these burnout effects (vast amounts of bliss, feelings of power, heat, very obvious energy flow, etc.) and think “wow, I’m making so much progress!”, but in fact are just burning out their energy and energetic system. Sadly, attempting to explain this phenomenon to individuals with this issue often ends up quite… ugly.
Overall in such a case, either the practitioner gets sufficiently deeply burned for him to go “hold on, maybe there’s something wrong here” and drops it, or they stumble upon a proper teacher who sets them straight. Either way, a legitimate teacher is necessary.
There can still be plenty of extremely deep processing happening with a microloop, especially if it’s a generally hard to work with title/aspect for the individual. It’s like touching an open wound - even a light touch can be painful. This is usually the case with the deeper levels of the subconscious mind and touchy subjects - work can seem “invisible” for a long time, until eventually a breakthrough happens and a massive transformation occurs. It’s important not to try and “blitz” through this period, as slow and steady is how you get through to such deep subconscious structures.
My first instinct in such cases however, and we’ve seen similar ones, is the energetic practice doing weird things on the inside. Sadly such individuals have burned themselves badly with faulty spiritual practices, blamed us, then after a couple months/a year would come back and admit that yes, it was the practice, and stopping/finding better ones solved the issue completely. Nothing to do with subliminals.
Another aspect that confirms it for me is the following:
Definitely not from Yoga, I had this long before I started yoga and yoga is the only thing that actually helps.
When I move up in exposure the symptoms become more severe. Most likely a deep inner blockage that is not getting resolved.
Now today I am beginning to feel certain shifts so perhaps the microloops while I don’t see any effects from it are really moving me through something deep. Hence why I have been feeling so down past two days since using them.
I am not down emotionally but like I don’t feel like doing much of anything or leaving my room if that makes sense.
We have already explained multiple times that the purpose of starting with 30s or less is to eventually increase exposure. As one of the founders of the company and the technology and highly aware how it works, I am STILL at sub-30s on The Light That Blinds Stage 1 and I am seeing incredible results that are extremely noticeable particularly during Qigong practice.
The majority, and I mean large majority of customers who employ progressive microloops – especially those using titles with the new anti-recon tech, have reported the exact opposite of what you’re reporting – less cognitive load, less recon, and the recon periods themselves feel less like a burden and more like the acquisition of inner wisdom, and this has been my experience as well.
If there is a blockage within you, as you openly recognized here:
… then you already know the reason behind your “issue.” At the day, we are not responsible for the life decisions and choices that led someone to having blockages like this. What we can do is provide the tools to help you dissolve it. The issue is that you are not following the feedback I personally gave you, as well as bringing in assumptions. Third, I noticed that you haven’t posted which titles you’re running (or at least I couldn’t find them), but I did see that you are opting for spiritual titles while performing spiritual energetic practices.
Why is this relevant? Well, one of the assumptions you seem to be carrying is that Zero Point contains scripting to “keep the script running” in the mind for long periods of time. That is not true – that scripting is not in ANY of our titles. There’s nothing in Zero Point that would inherently generate this response. Philosophically, Zero Point is complex. In expression, it is remarkably simplistic.
You subtly acknowledged this yourself when you said:
Yes, exactly.
When used properly, Zero Point is supposed to be mild, which then builds into larger results over time – like a month or two. That was the entire purpose of the microloop strategy – that you could adapt your listening time to exactly the necessary length to start getting results with the understanding that once the early issues are overcome, more listening time becomes an option.
You are being impatient and refusing to slowly work through your internal issues. But again, it is your issue. There are many people here who have slowly worked through a title using the microloop progression and are getting incredible results, because they are taking their time to work through their inner tension.
If you cannot grasp this, if you cannot understand that it is the body amd mind’s response to something triggering a fear, not the title itself that is an “issue,” then you need to stop using Zero Point titles, because that is the foundational tenet of which Zero Point is built upon. It is self-reflective, and if the nature of that evokes this level of fear and anxiety within the person, then perhaps it is not the best path toward healing.
I suspect that you’re making it worse by jumping to an advanced spiritual title and spirituality, by it’s very nature, is self-reflective. Especially if you’re using something from the Revelation line, which is marked as an artisan advanced title for a reason.
Now we’re talking about a self-reflective person, running a self-reflective title regarding spirituality, that which at a deep level, involves intense self-reflection. Perhaps you should consider allowing your Yoga practice (and hopefully it’s not YouTube stuff, but rather something being taught by a certified teacher) release the tension in the body and dissolve the energetic blockages in the body before proceeding with Zero Point.
I just recently saw your PM and of course, I’m not going to reveal the nature of it, but I want you think of this: what is the difference between that and running 30s?
It is almost like many of you try to compare yourselves to others (why can they run 15 minutes and I can only run 1 minute) without thinking about it deeply. If you have a huge block in an area, you do realize that if you slowly and progressively dissolve it, once that blockage is removed, your results in that area will SKYROCKET?
For years, any cognitive scripting would send me into the most intense recon. After I finally dissolved that block, my raw processing speed skyrocketed to a level that most people wouldn’t believe. Pattern making abilities and the ability to synergize information from disparate sources are off the charts. You can show me sets of data and within minutes, I can make highly accurate predictions and analyses that usually blows people’s minds. That did not come with force. It came with gentle healing and development over the course of years, running the same titles that everyone else uses. Specifically, Limitless and RoM, among others. It came with self-undoing and dedicating emerging cognitive skills toward the development of a more conscious and expansive mindset.
Jumping ahead, running titles you aren’t ready for and overexposing at any level will not get you there. And the only way that you’ll be able to continue using these titles is if you admit to yourself that your constitution itself responds to external stimuli like this. You see it as an issue rather than a potential gift. You’ll have to do this research yourself, since I am not knowledgeable in such matters to the extent that I want to give out too much information, but this is another quality we share and thus I can speak personally on it.
If you’re the type whose energetic system lights up this easily, I suspect you may also be the type to soak up other people’s emotions and the such when surrounded by people, leading to periods of life where you isolate yourself and seek solitude. If the system itself is sensitive, you cannot overload or tax it unless you have something that can help you soothe, harmonize the system. With me, it’s Qigong. With you:
Stop looking at your unique constitution as a “flaw,” or that the technology is “flawed,” and simply own the circumstances consciously, then slowly figure out how to work with either your Yoga, the title, or both in a manner that honors your unique nature rather than becoming frustrated about what other people can do that you “cannot.”
Everyone is different. Everyone will respond differently. Again, I want you to note that I STILL have not crossed the 30s mark in The Light That Blinds. Yes, I am getting results, but I haven’t experienced much of what some of the customers have, which can be annoying, yes. However, I simply recognize that trying to force things will guarantee failure. Moving in a rhythm that honors the self works much, much better and WILL lead to success.
I wish I knew about micro loops when I first starting my subclub journey. Ngl, its tempting to want to run the full 15mins when you’re not ready but I’m starting to learn that the recon is not worth the 15mins, I rather build over time so when I do look back I can smile at how far I’ve come even if it takes inch by inch. Even I rushed because I wanted to get the “full script” but in the end got horrible recon. Trust me, if you subconscious is not ready, trying to brute force it will shut your system down and hold you back big time. Speaking from experience. Imagine a year from now, do you want to look back and say man, I wish did so and so because I would be here and there?
I would recommend if people ran a sub for 15mins for a month, journal and then try it with 30secs for a month and see the difference in recon, mental overload etc., its night and day and its easier to manage… Just my two cents from one fellow sub club user to another who has been down that road. I made the mistake of running WB for the 15 mins once and regret it, definitely not ready for it at all.
My sweet spot is usually 5 to 7 minutes. I always start with 90 seconds and build up from there. 7 minutes sometimes gives me recon. Like EOG1 did. 7 minutes turned me into an emotional mess. I attempt the full 15 minutes only after I staying at 7 minutes for a couple of rounds. A few times, 7 minutes gave me so much mental fatigue that I ended the round early so I could just give my brain the needed rest. I’m not concerned with the full script, I’m concerned with how much I can handle and still function, and the results that I get.
Micro loops are so underrated. Especially when you realized that recon caused from not being ready for the changes by listening the full 15 mins is the reason why people switch stacks frequently and self sabotage.
Why not build slow like @Parsifal mentioned with the gym analogy
But I agree with you, I need to take that philosophy and apply it to myself when I feel like I’m missing out.