Am I stonewalling?

[mecharc]

Last one week I have been purposely overexposing myself.

I wanted absolute determination what recon is

@mecharc

In the past I have felt bad about my life’s state and etc. and I have gotten the feedback that it could be reconciliation. However, it could just be that my life sate made me feel that way and not Recon.

Other times I wanted to completely stop sub usage, that could be recon or maybe I stopped for the reasons I felt back then we’re the real culprit.

So, I wanted to feel reconciliation like people say they feel. Ie. Being mentally immobilized for a while.

And hence I’ve been purposely over exposing myself

So last few days I overexposed my stack of Ascension and Limitless like crazy.

Without a day rest.

However, I am mentally in tip top condition, performing well at work.

I don’t feel any adverse effect whatsoever.

Is this stonewalling That I’m not feeling anything adverse at all?

[Hoppa]

Not necessarily.

I usually don’t feel anything special. No huge shifts of how I am feeling.

@mecharc

However, I am mentally in tip top condition, performing well at work.

Is this normal for you? Personally I credit feeling good on the subs. Just because I feel like it makes the subs work better.

How do you usually feel?

[Malkuth]

@friday

It has helped me to clear a certain plateau and since then I am able to execute subliminals much better than ever before. Now I am running one loop a every 7-10 days with ZP and see the most outstanding results with a significant high flow factor. But there might be also other factors involved.

That’s interesting, @friday. Could you please address the other side of the issue as well?

In other words, when you have experienced recon in the past (or present), what do you feel were the conditions under which it showed up and also what were the signs and symptoms of it?

[pacman]

@friday

In fact, running high loops can be a interesting tool on the self-development journey.

Kindly explain why.

[aaa]

Sounds like brute forcing the subconscious

[Pilkington]

Honestly, the more i listen the better my results. When i was listening to one loop every other day it felt like i was listening to nothing at all. For some reason I just seem to need repeated exposure to see progress. I’m not one of those people that get results after one listen, i need at least 2 weeks before I start seeing things kick in.

Everyone’s different, and with something as complicated as your subconscious i’m sure people are going to have wildly different methods that work for them.

If you’re getting results and no adverse effects then you keep doing you man.

Having said that, just know that you’re not using them as the creators intended so if it backfires you have no one to blame but yourself.

[unusualfellow]

This is exactly my experience. Sometimes it feels like forever to see or feel anything… including my current ZPT2 customs…
but usually with most subs it does come, eventually, and it’s supernatural then

@Pilkington

I’m not one of those people that get results after one listen, i need at least 2 weeks before I start seeing things kick in.

[RVconsultant]

What has been your listening schedule for the past 9 days?

[Houdini]

@Pilkington

Honestly, the more i listen the better my results. When i was listening to one loop every other day it felt like i was listening to nothing at all. For some reason I just seem to need repeated exposure to see progress. I’m not one of those people that get results after one listen, i need at least 2 weeks before I start seeing things kick in.

Kinda feeling the same. Results are definitely there on a mental level for a long while after even a 3 min loop.

But overall, the results for me so far are mild and come with random but short inconsistent peaks out of nowhere.

It’s far less consistent for me than it was before, and I barely use them. I’m prone to devastating reconciliation on certain programs on the 15 min loops but when I do two of them I really do start to see more profound results albeit it also causes tiredness

The programs used to be an insane kick in the butt for me. When I ran 2 weeks of Ascended Mogul my reality completely shifted, so did my behaviour, my focus, etc and I was aggressively pursuing wealth goals.

None of that.

But I cannot deny the mental focus shift and it feels very natural too…

Just different then what I’m personally used to

For me… when I did two full loops I had really decent results, which also came with some overexposure but on the washout when I no longer felt support scripting or energetic effects it also caused terrible reconciliation.

So now I’m doing 3 mins and I get mild results but still worth it.

[mecharc]

@RVconsultant

What has been your listening schedule for the past 9 days?

Day 11: True Sell * 1, LBFH*1
Day 12: Rest
Day 13: Limitless 6 mins
Day 14: Rest
Day 15: Limitless + Ascension * 4 hours
Day 16: limitless + Ascension * 6.5 hours
Day 17: Rest
Day 18: Limitless + Ascension * 6 hours
Day 19: Limitless + Ascension * 4 hours
Day 20: Rest
Day 21: Still deciding what to run

[mecharc]

@Hoppa

How do you usually feel?

I’m feeling like my usual self.

Don’t feel any better or worse.

[pacman]

I think you should read the sales page of Ascension and be completely honest to yourself. Are you any close to the objectives of Ascension? If not then you need Ascension solo for a while.

I’m not saying the other programs don’t work. Sometimes you need to grasp minor concepts and heal masculinity before you feel good to handle more advanced titles.

For you to even ask the question if you are stonewalling screams doubt.

Also bare in mind that these titles do take time to work.

[Houdini]

Been having precognitive dreams for several days now.

Same thing I had on Terminus.

Besides that I feel a lot of tiredness, no headaches or forehead pressure though (on the 3 minutes).

Results are very mild too.

[Deadpool]

If I were you I would run Paragon sleep for some time.

For many months I have been listening to 3-5 minutes because of sleep.
After a few runs of Paragon sleep, I improved my sleeping and now I can handle two 15 minutes titles in one day.

[Houdini]

@Deadpool I sleep well

I’m slowly moving from 3 to 15 min.

[Deadpool]

Zeus bless you.

[bujin]

@mecharc

I’m feeling like my usual self.

Don’t feel any better or worse.

From the support page:

Stonewalling

Stonewalling is the complete lack of results, good or bad. Here’s the thing with stonewalling — for some reason, users tend to get this inexplicable urge to keep running the subliminal, even though they seemingly aren’t seeing any change. That’s because, your subconscious IS getting the subliminal input and recognizes that this is occurring, but is refusing to acknowledge any of the changes. No one quite knows what causes stonewalling yet, but the prevailing theory is that stonewalling is the subconscious outright refusing to accept the changes suggested by the subliminal audio due to an intense fear that it doesn’t even want to face.

Look for the apparent lack of results AND the urge to keep running the title. If you get strong urges to STOP, this is most likely reconciliation.

To deal with stonewalling, cut back on the number of loops SIGNIFICANTLY. If you try to brute force the subconscious into submission, you may end up stonewalling even harder. Next, you’ll need to take action toward the goal of your stack. If you’re running a wealth subliminal stack, for example, work diligently toward creating more wealth — even if that means something as simple as reading marketing strategies for a business you want to launch, or researching products for your future eCommerce store.

The goal here is to “prove” to the subconscious that change is good. By slowly introducing change organically, the subconscious mind may not go into “lockdown” mode and cause stonewalling.

[Floridianninja]

@mecharc

Day 15: Limitless + Ascension * 4 hours
Day 16: limitless + Ascension * 6.5 hours
Day 17: Rest
Day 18: Limitless + Ascension * 6 hours
Day 19: Limitless + Ascension * 4 hours

What do you mean by * by 4 and 6 hours… do you mean you listen to 1 then have 4 hour break then listen to the other?

@mecharc

Maybe you need some healing before you try to run anymore

Why not take a month or even 2 weeks and run rebirth and limit destroy … see if those affect you at all…

Also take a week or 2 off for a washout

[mecharc]

I have a playlist Ascension and Limitless

When I say 4 hours I mean 4 hours of that playlist on loop in a single day

[Floridianninja]

Are you listening to ZP or Qv2?