Acension - A skeptics journey

Yes @Uber_Elysium I completely agree with you; I have learned (from other experiences with working with my unconscious mind) that oftentimes it can seem like a coincidence, but that is the power of journaling - so that we can almost do a before / after snapshot of what our life was like, and what it’s like now.

Thank you, I was thinking along the same lines; I read in the pdfs that the more subs you add, the more time it will take to see results…being as I’m evaluating the effectiveness of subs in general, I’ve decided to stick to one for the time being (Ascension) and see where that takes me. It’s your opinion, but your opinion, which is backed up by your personal experience, so I highly appreciate it.

Awesome man; if the subs do actually work, the more honest we can be on here will only help others to see the dramatic differences between what life was like before and what it’s like now. I’m going to look at your journal, I appreciate the link.


Thanks @TheSunlightCaller - I am going to be reading a lot of journals, and journaling myself, so that I can track my progress. Thanks for your warm welcome

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Hi @RVconsultant, I am currently following the listening pattern for one ZP sub, which from what I understand is: Day 1, Day 3, and Day 5 (with the days in between these as rest days).

Also, I’m not wanting to add in additional subs at the moment, as I’m wanting to evaluate the effectiveness of them first - to decide if I want to invest more time, money, and energy into this area in the future. I read in the pdfs that came along with Ascension that it would take more time to see results if you add in more subs, so I’m going to stick to one for now.

To answer your question, I had bookmarked all of those you mentioned: Elixir, Rebirth, and Sanguine, along with Godlike Masculinity and a few others. I chose Ascension, because somewhere it mentioned that it was a good foundation for additional subs in the future, and I wanted to work on my positivity and getting my life more under control again.

Thanks for your reply; if you have any suggestions for me, I’d love to hear them.

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Immediately after waking up today, I jumped on my treadmill, and starting jogging. I have a routine that I’ve created to get myself back into shape, and I was following that, and my unconscious mind totally hijacked it…I literally had this strong impression not to stop running; so, I walked for a few mins, and then jogged some more (something we agreed on - I think we can speak to our unconscious - and it can speak to us). Anyway, this was definitely out of the ordinary for me, so I’m documenting it.

Also, I’ve noticed that I have a very strong desire (urge) to get into calisthenics all of a sudden. My conscious mind is telling me, “that’s crazy, you’re already maxed out in time constraints”; my unconscious mind is telling me “you need a goal, and it’s time you start working towards one” - so, I started looking up calisthenics training vids on YouTube. This also is very unusual for me, so I’m documenting it as well.

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Keep it up my dude, it’s good that you are taking the action necessary and trust me you will start to see results quickly. Soon those actions won’t be unexpected and just be the new normal :wink:

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Keep going much, I wish you success!

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I have to say that I just…feel good…a lot better than I have in a long time. During my weight training workout, I felt a ton of energy, which I pushed right into my workout, and it was a great one. I’m doing a routine to get myself back into shape - I’m using ladders (if you haven’t heard of them, I suggest you look into them if you’re looking to work on strength training and cardio training simultaneously).

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@Uber_Elysium, I can’t wait! Well I mean I can, but I’m just excited if that’s what you’re noticing at this point.

@Kyuss, thanks, I appreciate you.

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This is day 5 for me on Ascension; I listened to 2 loops this morning upon waking up. I’ve been following the listening guidelines (every other day). I’ve been listening on my phone’s speaker, along with relaxing music playing in the background, simultaneously.

I had an interesting situation come up today. I got in an argument with one of my co-workers over something fairly trivial. In the past, my stance has been that if I have a disagreement with someone over something unimportant, I just ignore them, and let it go. I’ve been one to question my reactions over the years, to wonder if it’s something in me that is faulty or if I really did react in an “accurate” way. I’ve learned over the years, that this is pretty much bullshit, because how we are feeling at any one time, is simply how we are feeling, and that is our truth, our reality, and it’s important to be authentic to that.

So, anyway, back to today, I had this argument, and I stated my stance on the situation, and they stated their stance on the situation, and neither one of us was technically right (it is an example of purely being driven by one’s own opnion, no objectifiable proof per se). Normally, I would have questioned my stance on the situation, wondering if I was inaccurate, and today, I was just downright pissed that the other person couldn’t see it my way. This felt authetic to me, so as weird as it sounds, I felt good that I felt pissed, because I was just letting myself be exactly what I was, without trying to control it or change it in any way.

I wasn’t worried what backlash I was going to get if I let my anger show through, I wasn’t worried about how technically accurate the feeling of being pissed was for the situation, I was just being purely authetic and letting my feeling just show through.

I don’t see myself as having people pleasing tendencies, but this has got me thinking that maybe I actually do, and just have not been aware of it. If I do, it probably stems from my upbringing with my mom, where nothing I could do was ever good enough or just “enough” in general. I learned a long time ago, that I had to just take care of myself, because other people just are not trustworthy and will always let you down or try to use weaknesses against you - as ammunition for example.

This is good, I see some really positive shifts occurring in me, in deeper ways than I had originally thought would occur. Don’t get me wrong, this is no walk in the park, as I have to now face some real tough questions, like have I been people pleasing all these years, and just didn’t know it? Do I have a false sense of security, and only rationalizing that I can only depend upon myself, so that I don’t have to be vulnerable? All these sorts of questions are coming to my mind, and I now need to deal with them.

I definitely prefer this though; you can’t fix what you are not aware of being there in the first place. If you can see it, you can deal with it. Deal with it I shall.

I’m looking forward to this.

Date: 7/16/22

Subliminal: Ascension

Day: 9

Notes:

I listened to Ascension 2 times through my phone speakers, early this morning, while also listening to a lecture on the history of the Industrial Revolution. I did not hear much, as I drifted off to sleep quite quickly.

When I woke up, I felt pretty normal; then, I noticed myself getting very discouraged quite easily. I began thinking in terms of what I was thinking like 9 days ago, before I started this journey.

I should mention that my daughter had been on vacation with her mom’s family, and my mother also had been gone for 10 days, so I had the house to myself, and that’s when I initially started Ascension and started posting here.

I was doing well, as I could get up, didn’t have to deal with any drama from anyone, and could just take care of myself. Now, my daughter is back, as well as my mother; there is a lot of friction there, and definitely some push back. I won’t go into details, but let’s just say that I can easily manage my own life, yet when I have negative influences around me, it becomes increasingly difficult for me to stay positive and keep attacking life on my own terms. This has led me to become discouraged in the past, only focusing on the problems, and not the good things.

Anyways, I think I am going to listen to Ascension 2 more times today, with headphones on, in order to cancel out any negativity I’m getting from external sources, and have thus begun to internalize.

I would say that this is a positive note; me thinking in terms of how to overcome the negativity I am noticing within myself, instead of just giving in to it, as I have in the past.

I will post here with any changes I notice.

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I definitely think this subliminal is having an effect; I listened to Ascension 2 times in my headphones (while Coldplay was also playing), while cleaning up the kitchen from making breakfast, as well as cooking some chicken for the next week.

I noticed, almost immediately, my attitude began shifting from one of complaining about what was going wrong, to thinking about how I can fix the situation, and more importantly, what I want instead. I know that we usually get what we focus on, but oftentimes, I still find myself complaining about all the things that are not good at the moment, instead of asking myself, “what DO you want?”

So, I’m definitely seeing a measurable effect from listening to the subliminal and will start stacking another one on top of Ascension, because I think I need some more aggressive pushes in the direction of cutting out all bullshit from my life, and moving towards some real and definite goals for myself.

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You can stack it with Godlike Masculinity. Even though some have said that it would make people a bit too aggressive.

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Okay, so I’ve perused the subliminals in the shop, and have come to the conclusion that I am going to switch subliminals here. I guess I need to give some back story to make this make more sense.

Firstly, I grew up without a dad really in the picture; my grandfather stepped in, in some ways, but my mother always was jealous of his attention of me, so she made it difficult for that to happen - also, my grandfather passed away when I was 18, so I really did not have any sort of father figure from that time onwards.

Secondly, I’ve already mentioned this, my mother is a narcissist, I believe. I could not put my finger on it for a long time in my life, but whenever I’ve been around her, my life always seems to take a nose dive right into shit land. I’ve studied up quite a bit on narcissism, met others in my life who have had narcissistic parents (and they’ve confirmed my mother is one), read lots of books about the subject, etc.

Thirdly, I was molested as a kid, and got hooked on porn early (the guy used porn to “groom” me I guess you could say). I’ve struggled with self-esteem issues, sexuality issues, porn addiction, etc for the rest of my life.

Fourthly, I have worked through these issues; I’ve been to therapy and even worked on myself using methods such as self-hypnosis, affirmations, etc. I was in a good place in my life, until I needed my mother’s support in order to help me with my daughter, after my wife and I separated. Soon after the separation, she started sicking children & youth onto me, claiming I was hurting my daughter (which I never have done and never would do). My life became a living hell, trying to get more support of my daughter, and fighting 5 yrs in court to get it (which I finally did).

Fifthly, my mother and I now live together (again) in order to be there for my daughter, which I suspect has gone through some similar problems in her young life that I have had to go through (even though I have tried my best to shelter her from this stuff).

Sixthly, Now numerous state agencies are involved, lawyers, advocates for my daughter, special education classes for my daughter at school, as she is just angry all the time and becomes very violent.

To be honest, I’ve had times in my life where I’ve wanted to just die; I’ve thought it’s just too fucking much to handle all this shit…thought I had gotten past all my pain and hurts from my past, but being back in this situation just has driven home how much stuff is not really dealt with at a deep level.

So, I’ve decided to make the switch to Dragon Reborn, because I think this will help me shed all the baggage I’m still carrying from all these deep level traumas I’ve endured throughout my life. I feel that Ascension is bringing things up to me, little by little, but I’m unsure of how to exactly eradicate them from my life, and I’m ready to deal with all this stuff, so that I can be a strong dad for my daughter, as well as start getting away from my mother for good.

I didn’t put all this in my first entry, because honestly, I was not sure Ascension was going to do anything at all. Now, having experienced some really deep shifts within myself, I’m ready to go for the gusto and actually start eradicating all this stuff from my life and being reborn as a healthy and strong man who can help his daughter, without having to fight his own demons in the process.

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Thanks @ksub; I actually decided to go a completely different direction, focusing on some deep level healing, which I think needs to take place before I can go on to Godlike Masculinity or other similar subs.

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You might want to give this more thought. Dragon Reborn is not a beginner’s sub. It’s pretty rough if you don’t have some foundation. There are a few other healing subs to choose from : Regeneration, and Rebirth,. Don’t forget Chosen From Within with has Regeneration and Love Bomb included. Love Bomb in this sub is meant to promote self love and healing.
Anyway, I’m rooting for you, bro! Good luck on your healing journey, this community is always here if you need to ask questions.

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@aklimatize you could have written my autobiography, we have exactly the same type of upbringing - narcissistic mother and sister, absent father, sexually inappropriate behaviour. Being amongst them will spiral your life into a lower level, nothing good comes from absorbing their shit and they refuse to change. It isn’t easy at all to have what you had brought up, especially when you’re starting to deal with your childhood.

I’ll refrain from giving any more life advice. To echo @ksub, DR will certainly clean up the past, but in a very thorough, brutal manner. Plus it is a 4 stager. DR is truly what you want, I’d suggest Regeneration as a taster of what’s to come. It does what DR does at a much gentler clip and it’s cheaper.

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Thanks @ksub I appreciate your support. Whereas I don’t have a foundation with subliminals, this is true; however, I have done a lot of work on myself using other methods, so I’m going to go with Dragon Reborn, and see where it takes me. I’m ready to shed all this baggage and become the true me once again.

@Michel I’m sorry to hear your childhood was rough as well, my friend. Yes, you understand perfectly; it’s a waste of time to try to help others change who don’t want to, and it always brings us down to be around these sorts of people, because they are not dealing with reality.

Yes, I’m aware it is a 4 stage sub; and you definitely have some valid points. I had already purchased it, even before I made my post about switching to it; so, I’m going to give it a go, and see what happens. If it does become too much for me to handle at some point, I will put the brakes on and go at a slower pace. Thanks brother.

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Great! Keep us informed of your progress.

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How is DR going?

@RVconsultant

It’s going quite well, thanks. I have another journal for the DR sub, it’s at Dragon Reborn - My journey - #14 by aklimatize

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