Cool. For how long have you been getting those great results?
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Here we have another case where one loop gave excellent results. Interesting. When Q showed up (within a month from that date, actually) I concluded the point is to find the minimal number of loops that works for you and produces satisfactory results but then the general recommendations showed up and I started looking for another way, playing more loops and looking for the balance between satisfactory results and reconciliation/stonewalling which is called “sweet spot”. It’s starting to look to me as if that concept (of sweet spot) is a ghost to say the least.
I tried that approach and ran one loop for Khan ST4 and StarkQ for a couple of days and I was getting very good results but then I started trying to find my sweet spot and…well, I didn’t find it for four months. Maybe because I didn’t do it right.
I shall consider running one loop of DR or at least reducing the number of loops since I feel as if I was stonewalling. The same happened when I increased the number of loops for RegenerationQ from two to five within a week. I had no reconciliation but I felt as if I was stonewalling even though I got some spectacular results (like getting rid of two major traumas). But the general feel was I was stonewalling… or maybe it was my healing stack digging really deep. Hard to tell now since healing is mostly an inner matter.
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It’s understandable that we all want good results and the automatic thing to assume is more loops will give better results. Seems that that is not the exact case. I just stumbled upon the one loop idea accidentally. Am guessing that if one wants to increase loops, one can do so slowly for optimum results. Maybe increase one loop every week.
It’s a good idea to try reducing the loops or try one loop and see how it goes, @Sub.Zero
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@Lion did you read 48 Laws of Power while running PCC? Wondering how powerful that synergy can get.
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look man i slammed 2-3 loops a day for 5 months on khan apart from first weeks on stages.
this was easy cuz i had no life
On khan stage 4 i realized that i had the ability to commit action day in and day out. I could literally do it all day and miss all my loops.
I made due cuz i had to, i wanted to go after action and talk to girls and men and people and go out. So i compromised by sticking to 1 loops of khan and ef a day. this was about 1 month and a half ago
and basically since then ive realized i remember ALL my dreams im getting insane results and basically last night some girl who called me a beta and a dumbass a week ago admitted her love to me and has been chasing me and sending me nudes all last night, results are showing more in my pure instinct in social conversation, im getting better day after day
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You have to take into account that Khan Stage 4 is more powerful than all the other stages combined and that you may reap the benefits of listening to the previous stages for 2-3 loops a day for 5 months. That’s the pattern experienced users know well enough. I’ve had a similar experience on Khan. I listened to 8 loops during Stage 1, 2 and 3 (half of it) and then reduced the number of loops to 4 and I started getting excellent results while before I had been stonewalling. Of course, ultimately it doesn’t matter if it comes to the results you get. I’m happy for you, you do. Thank you for your replies.
Hmm… there might be a lesson for us in it if it comes to running multi-stage programs…
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pure dedication to your stack, u begin to gain a 6th sense on the days where youre falling behind and you should cry in a corner to 3 loops of khan (this huge input creates insane inner spiritual wars and changes, followed by big results)
i am in a phase where action is abundant, the action alone is bringing me results due to the results of doing things, 1 loop is enough to maintain while the action carves my reality, when i feel lost and alone and basically like ive stagnated ill hit my brain with 3 loops
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Very good approach. I’m working on something similar right now. I found your posts very inspiring. Thank you.
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Meh…
I did 1 loop all this week until last night where I changed loops again (I also slept with my subs on all night).
I ended up doing 2x DR, 3x Stark and 3x Khan.
I’m going to follow this pattern for a while. I’m researching and experimenting on everything and looking back at old posts.
Let’s see what the results are from there.
But @Yazooneh you inspire me man. I like where you say if you feel like you’re stagnated that you upped your loops and it helped push through, it makes sense.
I really should do a deload as I’ve not done one yet.
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I think we should follow our guts too but on higher levels of loops. That’s the general conclusion I drew from his experience. The reason is his tolerance is lower than our if it comes to getting “negative” results, in his case it’s overload. I’m running the 7th loop of DR right now and I’m totally fine. Still working on my findings and applying them. I should know about the alchemy of it soon.
What I’m working on now is breaking patterns, changing them all the time basing on our guts, knowledge and experience. The main idea is routines kill the alchemy. But as I said, I’m working on this and it’s too early to confirm my hypothesis.
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Thank you for confirming what I assumed was the case. You saved me some time, perhaps, although I was not thinking about checking out the one loop idea.
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Actually you gave me the idea from one of the quotes you used from Saint.
The one where he says it’s not about using one loop and staying there, it’s about gradually moving up. It also says in that post (might be the single title article) to go up two loops if you’re not getting results or whatever. I feel like 3-4 is my sweet spot and even if I’m overloaded Saint says (correct me if I’m wrong) that the overload will even out if you give it rest because the amount of information we’re being give is huge.
We have to follow the signs of reconcilation, not brute forcing it, and everything else.
1 loop is great for sure and for some people it’ll be enough, especially people new to subs or SubClub and I’ll always start with 1-2 loops on new subs I’m using hence why I’m staying at 2 maximum for Dragon Reborn.
It’s all an individual thing, an experimental one.
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That’s right. He even encourages to wait out reconciliation or stonewalling. Reconciliation only to the point it’s bearable.
If you start getting reconciliation, try to wait it out and see if it’s just the natural processing cycle.
About stonewalling:
The second (and more difficult strategy) is suppressing the lust for results. Constantly looking for results can actually short circuit the process. You just need to run the sub and take action and let the alchemical process occur.
But what’s the base of the “method” I’m working on is this:
There are two strategies to overcome stonewalling (a term that describes when resistant personalities will simply ignore subliminal stimulus and receive neither reconciliation or effects). Either up the amount of exposure to force a breakthrough, or cut back to 1 loop a day and give your subconscious time to accept the scripting. Better yet, alternate back and forth. One day, go all out with your stack. The next day, cut back.
If it comes to the sweet spot, I don’t think you can find it once and for all, you should look for it constantly by experimenting (just running subs) since Alchemy is all about transmutation which base is human and who you are today is not someone who you were yesterday.
Interesting…reconciliation that’s bearable? Wow, that is something to stick with. It’s something we have to keep an eye on.
I just thought it meant take a rest when I read that. I think I’m going to start resting every third day.
Yeah, running the sub and action = magic.
In terms of loops, it’s definitely a grow as you feel you can kind of thing - to me - but in regards to possibly forcing more/better results it sounds like running the 1 loop thing is a deload - which isn’t how I thought about it.
In my head a deload was taking a week off subs and not doing any subs at all, not a thing…
Maybe the best way to deload would be to lower your loops to 1 loop or if you’re doing more than 3-4 loops to cut in half to 2-3 loops and run a week of that and then the following week upping your loops back either gradually back to where you were or close to the number of loops you were at prior and increasing again.
Just like you would in a gym. You’d deload on lighter weight, preferably, than you would just taking the entire week off. I think this could be a big thing honestly.
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All i can say is that even with the older versions X2 i was getting better results with just one conscious loop during my trip to work in the car than letting the full stack run all night.
What i found what works even better with Q is just one loop a day and go on my way, works even better than 3 Loops when i am asleep? Shouldn’t be the other way around?
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I would believe it works if you had one month break from listening. Otherwise, I think you were impacted by listening to your stack before and your mind had more room to process it therefore you were hit running one loop of that Pre-Q program.
I had something like that on StarkT. I was a slight social anxiety. I had a problem to start talking to people but once I started I felt the power of the sub.
I’m going to take a break only from time to time to “surprise” my unconscious unless I felt a need to take a break because of being overloaded. But it’s a part of my new “method/approach” so I’m still testing it.
In my new approach, I’ll be trying to brute force my results from time to time (once, twice per week), again, to “surprise” my unconscious.
Hmm… it’s another good idea to “surprise” you unconscious. I may try to implement it into my approach.
That’s the very core of my new approach but I’ll be doing more radical switches like today 8 loops, tomorrow 2 only, in two days 4 loops then maybe 8 again or just a day off. Following my instinct/guts and… common sense or sth which is called like that.
I would rather compare it to surprising your enemy (negative beliefs, or just your unconscious which is not eager to change). Today you’re attacking using two soldiers (two loops) and the enemy is laughing at you and weakens its defence line, tomorrow you fetch eight soldiers (eight loops) and your enemy gets defeated. Then two soldiers again, then four, another day no attack at all. You can also try to attack at different angles by altering your stack and this is what Saint suggests too. Today you run stack X, tomorrow stack Y, the day after tomorrow stack X again and so forth.