I was kidding, or, being metaphorical.
My soul is growing.
Also my PP.
Just kidding about that too.
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This Zan Perrion book is amazing.
Are you a pick up artist? no… Pick up artists are good at picking up phone numbers, not women. Well then, what are you? A romance artist. What’s the difference? Empathy.
With subliminals, the producers mentioned how listening to primal Romance could be counterproductive to seduction, because you would find yourself being seduced even more than the woman, perhaps… But in this book, the alabaster girl, the author is waxing poetically about how the art of seducing women is the art of allowing yourself to be seduced by them… Interesting
I feel really aligned with this authors notion that sex is not the goal, sex is the celebration of the connection, and the connection is the goal
But as he says… I am not your boyfriend or your husband… I am your lover
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Heard about his book a lot. Just put it off always. Maybe I should give it a read
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Nectar was extracted.
Can’t believe I’m saying that 🤦
but it’s a RoTNW report
Was super interesting to see how strong the aura and sexual shame reduction of RoTNW was. She had only been with 3 people in her life (at age 27!) 
and she had never kissed someone on a first date before.
Yet there we were, right there in the back of my car, doing a whole lot more than kissing.
It was most interesting that in every other way, she was still extremely reserved. Before and after. But she went completely shameless for the act itself
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Everything he said about RoTNW seems very true
Time to test PN soon 
and I know exactly who to test it with
bolding was mine.
I agree with the idea that the pleasure of RoTNW is purely sensation-based. I haven’t ran PN, but I’ve ran WB, and Khan, and PR, and I know when a sub provides a hot and heavy lust - ROTNW doesn’t.
When I know a dynamic is sexually charged, PN makes a lot of sense, but for people who are just casually friends or not already sexual with, RoTNW removing those layers of resistance makes a lot of sense.
ROTNW to get out of the “friend zone” and PN for once you’re out, in a way.
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I know lol, I was joking as well.
Curious of your experience with Khan on sales. My sales performance is stalled and seeing very little overall change month to month at this point , I’m still doing really well, at times insane performance but not the insane performance month in and out-like I was. (Partially the overall dynamic for the company though) I was at so thinking of just doing Khan regardless because of this. I value Khan for the ambition of engagement most.
Are you on Khan Stage 2 still?
It sounds like your social/romantic growth and confidence is primarily Khan with RotWN and WB a little social grease
ROTNW effects on socializing, and comparing to PN
RoTNW might change others but I feel it has no effect on me. That’s what my comment on its lack of lust was about.
Whereas PN from what I understand adds masculinity to the conversation. Sexuality. Lust.
One regret I have about last night is that after ROTNW’s shamelessness wore off, her shame came back, and I could see her doing the mental math of right and wrong in her head.
ROTNW might have done this twice. I previously went to karaoke and microlooped WB/ROTNW. Had a connection with a girl. Had the opportunity to kiss her but didn’t. Then we had a call and she felt bad about how close our connection was (lots of hand holding, cuddling, and thigh grabbing) because of XYZ. Another example of shamelessness wearing off and being replaced by logic.
Gonna be implementing a rule: no sex or hook ups on the first date.
No sex on the first date, no hook up, just a kiss, then I give her a day to process. If she regrets the kiss, imagine how much more she’d regret doing more.
The only thing I’m looking for is a deep FWB connection where sex is the celebration of the friendship. A no strings attached romance that both parties are clear on.
That puts me in a great place. I would so much rather have July 2025 come around and have 6 really close female friends that I’m sexually attracted to, but not sleeping with, compared to having July 2025 come around and I have 6 women that I’ve slept with but now I don’t talk to.
My goal
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So from your description, PN seems to be better than ROTNW
Not better, for different goals.
PN makes sex very primal, full of passion and increase the horniness to the max, it makes the sex very animalistic.
RotNW makes you get sex easier, last longer, increase sensations in penis and while ejaculating.
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Exactly.
Also I haven’t run PN.
Like he said, different. (Extra comparison of PN/ROTNW)
ROTNW is better for physical/sensation-based sexual performance, first of all. Stamina and ejaculatory control, to enhance the goal of controlling if and when you’re extracted.
PN is better for wild/carnal sex and inducing lust.
Read the full post saiyan4blue made about it that I quoted above - if you go to the actual post, he explained the differences beautifully.
PN adds a more sexual aura, but, that can be quite off putting in the work place, for example, while you’d have zero issue running ROTNW in the work place.
ROTNW is great for shy girls, and sexual girls, it’s great for any girls… but PN would only be good for women who are comfortable with your/their sexual energy, IMO.
ROTNW would hold a long term place in my stack. PN is only for microloops before dates, at the moment, and only with certain women.
I would consider a KhanST4 + ROTNW custom to run long term. I would never ever run a KhanST4 + PN custom.
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Are you still on Khan Stage 2?
Yes still ST2, microlooped yesterday
Bro I love that. When I’m out of my celibacy phase this is exactly what I’d be looking for. Having female friends makes life so much fun. Especially if they’re FWBs.
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Night I just had was pure bliss. Dancing till 2. Karaoke on the street with randoms. A night with the bros and some guest stars peppered in throughout. Hell ya.
30s microloop of WB.
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I’m balancing two competing thoughts.
My partner and I agreed - I’m just not all that into marriage, I don’t value it.
No one had any hurt feelings about that.
But it makes me wonder… am I really anti-marriage? Or did she just have a very specific idea of marriage that I didn’t agree with?
Aka was I just anti-THAT-marriage?
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Ooooofff thats a tough one my guy. Me personally I am in the middle, like I am happy with meeting someone that I would consider my wife and leave it at that, or have a ceremony and leave the government out of it.
To also not wanting to ever get married at all haha
In the end I think its going to come down to the person I end up with.
IMO at least in American society people just dont know how to genuinely put effort into a relationship anymore. They tend to give up so fast on small fights or disagreements and hop back on dating sites, go to bars/clubs, etc. and that makes me question marriage all together, honestly even relationships in general. That however is something I need to work through.
Either way, it might be for different reasons, but I get where you’re coming from.
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Testing out G:AoH for science.
1 min.
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Looking to build a “Success Via Influence” Custom.
Please read and respond to it on the thread if you have any ideas or comments.
This won’t be something I build until mid-jan, so, this might becoming redundant or poorly timed depending on what EOG is like.
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I asked about the differences between a long run of Khan ST2 vs ST4 in support:
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