Hey @viv,
How much money do you want to make a month? And why? (what would change in your life when you would make this amount of money)
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I’ve seen the theory in one of my psychology class, I think it was part of Martin Seligman’s Positive psychology reasearch which demonstrate that positive mindset actually promote neuroplasticity.
I’ve made a quick search to support what I was saying 
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The overall message is more “take care of your mind first if you want your mind to work for you”, depending on how you like to grow, you can do your own research.
I was just seeing you, your description makes it seems like you were suffering 
That state of mind is not good for change and growth, you brain will literally have difficulty to change, I’ve seen that in my neuropsychology class. People with negative emotions tend to have difficulty to adapt in life, and find creative solutions to life problems.
Decide where you want to invest your energy, sometime you work hard as fuck, and get desperate, only to realise you missed a step and you could of gotten 10X the results you got by doing 1-2 simple things differently.
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Empathy is always nice to see. Thanks man.
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Most people are also biased when they say they did not get results.
Bias is an inescapable part of human expression.
Take everything with a grain of salt. Even yourself.
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I disagree that it’s bullshit. Listening to a subliminal isn’t just going to make you win the lottery if you haven’t taken the action of buying a ticket.
Gotta take action my man.
I can’t lie and say I haven’t questioned the subs and whether they work but in hindsight I notice that things happened with the help of the sub I was using, and it wasn’t just me.
For example, Khan helped me massively overcome being uncomfortable talking to guys and letting them know my fetish. Something I struggled with for years and years. I opened the pathway by talking to them first.
Stark helped me make money and decisions on an app I worked on and made me super popular on it. I was making a bunch of money and people loved me. Some hated me but because they were jealous of my success.
KhanQv2 has also been recently manifesting small wins for me. However, with that said, I don’t tend to ‘feel’ the subs. I get headaches and dreams or whatever when I’m over doing it - or so it seems, but other than that I don’t necessarily feel them. I wouldn’t have realised some of my wins if I hadn’t have journalled them and the actions I took.
Action can be super hard for me to take personally but even the smallest action can help open the pathway like Fire suggested. It isn’t placing blame on the user.
Again, sometimes I question whether the subs are working and whatever because I don’t feel what other people feel but looking back, they have.
I get ideas, dreams, inspiration, actionable thoughts, and all that kinds of stuff.
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Don’t accept simple truisms and blanket generalizations whether they’re optimistic or pessimistic.
Gather information from observing reality.
Experiment with different approaches. Work your strategies and tactics.
No matter what you experience or say, there will always be someone to say the opposite or something different.
That’s not a flaw in humans, it’s a feature. Helps us to think from different perspectives and to test our views.
But never accept some so-called statement of reality just because someone chose to say it.
Go and check for yourself. Then you won’t need to be threatened by whether someone else agrees or not.
Also, when running a decent plan, ‘zero positive changes/results of any kind’ is not normal; even without subliminals. It’s evidence that your strategy needs some adjustment.
If you add sugar to your coffee and “it still tastes like I’m drinking orange juice”, the problem is not the sugar. It’s that you might not have coffee in that cup.
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Yup, like I said both of the links are describing the same thing in different language. The only real difference is the type of stress they’re describing. Both show negative impact on neuroplasticity. Would seem to be a no brainer when you think about it, one of those common sense things thats easy to forget.
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Alex, I would also add Sanguine to the stack. Sanguine is an optimistic/ can do type sub. On the sales page it says that it reduces/removes recon. If anybody is under the weather, consider running sanguine.
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Then why are you here? You can’t just buy a Ferrari and expect it to run all by itself. Also, by any chance, you put your ass on the driving seat and start the Ferrari, it won’t run on its full potential, because you are afraid of speed and can’t run the vehicle properly. Its your fault, not the cars fault.
Work on yourself … Don’t come here and crib over things you don’t understand. Don’t spread negativity. [MOD EDITS: escalation and negativity removed]
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If subs work, they’re not going to work 100% of the time for 100% of the people. Nothing that we have in the personal development field can claim that. I respect your experience. You have your own experiences that none of us can take away from you.
I want you to consider the possibility that subs work for some people. That’s why I don’t recommend that you say subs are bullshit. Other people have had positive experiences with subs.
I wish you the very best in your journey!
Take care and God bless you!
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hahahaha.
A fan of the irony, are we?
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In addition to action taking, I think the most useful takeaway was this part.
Ultimas explicitly require a certain quality of speakers/headsets (flat response / zero bass), while we don’t know if your PC speakers play Ultrasonic audio properly.
Your first immediate change should be to use Masked files.
Several of us choose Masked Q files, specifically because they work with pretty much any quality of audio equipment. 
Just a reminder … Don’t play ultrasonics on headsets, only masked and ultimas.
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Savage 
im now playing RICH using good quality headphones.
ultrasonic only via speakers (my phone speakers are good…i may need to invest in better pc speakers. not very technical so i don’t know what flat response/zero bass is, I’ll research it)
thanks Simon
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I do agree with your post Malkuth.
As with anything in life, one can always find a silver lining /positive things in any given negative situation. I don’t dispute that at all.
When I mentioned I haven’t seen +ve results, it was based on my own normal behavioural patterns.
Naturally, postiive things happen to me too. I may meet the right people, learn something I needed, opportunities etc come my way etc, that’s a given in my life (and most others too).
I’m comparing my ‘regular’ experience before and after 2 months of subs.
I’m not saying nothing +ve has happened at all. What I’m saying is I can’t put hand on heart and its any different to how my life in general runs.
I’m not here trying to stir the pot. Granted when I wrote the post I was writing on emotions/anger and things seem to be embellished and one can make mountains of molehills.
That was never my intention.
On a more positive note (pun intended lol), I’ve got great feedback from all of you guys, and am working to tweak things and I’m sure things will improve.
Even just having a supportive community like this goes a long way in helping.
So I thank every single one of you for your compassion, advice and encouragement.
Have a great day and weekend everyone 
P.S. It’s my birthday next Tues 27th and postiive things always happen to me around that time! 
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I wouldnt say you are stiring the pot. let be honest alot of people would be rich here if it worked so simply. however i would say it also is not a one and done subliminal experience. I have gotta a rich custom ultima . still waiting for result. 4 month. adverse experiences . but i also say subliminal work , hammer them hard , at least double , headphones for masked and ultrasonic whilst sleep
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You’re not stirring the pot. You were frustrated and reaching out for help. May not have came across the best way, but we all ask for help, sometimes in the not so obvious ways.
Subs work, but like Fire and others have mentioned, you have to take action. I know you probably have been, and I’m not dismissing your efforts but look out for new ideas, insights and whatever else you get. That’s how I ‘feel’ my subs, even though I don’t really ‘feel’ them. Make sure you journal and look back in hindsight, that’s how I know I’ve gotten results.
Also, as others suggested, listen to Ultima’s through flat response headphones for better results, and listen to masked subs through headphones too. I used to listen to any SC sub through speakers over night whilst sleeping but I’m getting a better response by listening through the day, with headphones and taking little bits of action.
Seems people get some response from ultrasonics over speakers/phone speakers when listening over the night but the majority seems to be definitely seems to be headphones during the day.
I personally listen with my AirPod Pros, but they’re not flat response and I still get some kind of effect with Ultima’s, but I’d recommend flat response ones for sure. The other masked subs you can listen to with any kind of headphones I’m assuming?
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i’m using this headset
I don’t see anything about Flat Response etc.
tbh have no clue about stuff like this. Could someone tell me if this headset is good for subclub? Or if I need to change them? (I can’t afford top of the line stuff btw just letting you know coz someone always suggests those brands lol)
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I have no idea about flat response headphones, but I know some have suggested some cheaper ones that still do well.
I don’t use anything other than my AirPod Pros for subs so I’m not sure.
Maybe the above will work, but just incase of suggestions:
Paging @RVconsultant @Sub.Zero @Azriel @Lion
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