Both PS and Iron Throne will help you attract women if you interact with them – in person, or online (though in person is better). What you do with that budding relationship (turn it into a one-night stand, casual sex partner, or long-term relationship) is largely up to you and how you play it. Both short-term and long-term manifestation is in PS. Iron Throne is a bit more stripped – it’s pure, “go out and have fun.”
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We added an aura, but it wasn’t our number one priority. Here’s the thing – that competitor sub has been in development for what, 3 years? And it still isn’t performing as well as both the producer and the community wants. I’m not knocking the producer, I’m not saying it isn’t possible. If that producer cracks the code, then his company will be rich overnight. What I’m saying is that SubClub isn’t spending years trying to develop an aura based subliminal right now for multiple reasons. We’re trying to create products that will help people take action, rather than waiting passively for an aura to do the work.
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I played a few loops of the standard PS, and ended up crying, which is not something I usually do. It was a bit similar to Regeneration, although Regeneration got me to wake up shivering in unexplained fear at the end of the night.
I know this is good, and helps me release emotions. However, there is nothing less attractive to women than a man crying.
This is why I prefer PS Iron Throne. I can’t be approaching women and maintaining attractive eye contact if I have “sad puppy eyes”. But when I am not around women, the releasing can be very beneficial.
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Has the standard PS always given you emotional releases since you started listening to it? I’m quite surprise that it hasn’t happened for me (although I know everyone responds differently). I thought I’m first in line when it comes to needing emotional releases lol.
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I have not listened to the standard PS before.
Regeneration got me very emotional when I tried it, though.
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Saturday: I had 3 dates, and fucked a virgin. I’m pretty sure I have a better life now that the ex feudal kinds! At least the girls nowadays smell better than the girls at the time haha
Date 1: She told me I am the most amazing man she has ever met, and is lucky to have found me.
Date 2: Told me I am fascinating and exciting!
Date 3: With the virgin girl I talked about before, who is 13 years younger than me. She was ready. So we made sweet sweet virgin love and she went home sore but happy.
Thank you SubClub! But of course, these results don’t come if you listen to the subliminals and sit home on your fat ass. They come when you are willing to face your fears, risk rejection, and go out there talk to women! It was Saturday, lots of girls out and out and in malls etc, so I did talk to a few and got a number in between the dates.
It’s rainy here now, but I feel like I’m walking on sunshine!
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YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! 
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Which subs in your opinion made the difference? Apart from Iron Throne of course. Were there any subs that you listened to consistently and didn’t feel like it was working at all?
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Before New Dawn, I needed to have faith and listen for much longer before I noticed a significant effect.
At the same time, I have listened to the original Primal and S&S for more than 3 months before PS Iron Throne. It might be a cumulative effect, that they built the foundation, and PS Iron Throne finished the work.
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THANK YOU!!!
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Your persistence is inspiring!
I’ve not even hit a month but I’m already moving in the right direction.
I cant wait till I hit 3-4 months like you, along with taking action in the field!
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Awesome! Try to at least talk to one girl a day if not more.
And trust the process. It pays off even if in the beginning it feels hopeless. A breakthrough will happen that will change everything.
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I approached a few girls today as I was enjoying a stroll around the center of the town.
I instant dated a 21 years old girl. I had a lot of fun with her and kissed her.
She told me at the end of the date: “You are exceptional!”
I like this. It seems women went from friend-zoning me and not seeing me as someone of value, to giving me huge validation, telling me: “You are exceptional!” “You are fascinating!”
This is not yet translated into enough lays, but it makes the work and improvement much better, as women are basically cheerleading me as I am improving my game.
It’s very validating.
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@AMASH you seem to make a lot of progress with the subs. Could you let us know what kind of setup you are using? Ultrasonic or Masked. and also what kind of speaker and mp3 player? how many hours per day? etc thanks! 
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May I ask in which country are you deploying the primal seduction arsenal? Just curious, if the cultural background could facilitate or diminish good outcome. Thanks.
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I have only ever used the Ultrasonic version. I let the files play on macbook speakers. I set it and forget it, so whenever I am around my laptop (or sleeping at night), I let the ultrasonic play. It is about 15 hours per day minimum I play the files at 22% of maximum volume.
I was gaming in Dubai. Then Brazil. And now Ukraine.
Women are women. If you you have good positive vibe and confident sub-communications, they stop and give you the time of the day, and are happy you talked to them because that is attractive. If your sub-communications are of a weak man or someone insecure about his right to do what he believes in, which is that he can talk to women and it will be a positive experience, then they will find it awkward.
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And remember guys, I have been focusing on seduction subs for about 4-5 months now, with internal changes but no external real results for at least the first 3 months.
I kept going, persisting, and stayed the course. And I did not take stop using the subs complaining “it’s not working”.
Give it a true fair chance. Time will pass anyway, so let it pass with a sub that matches your goals supporting you and playing in the background, and take whatever action you can, no matter how small, to help things progress further along.
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I’m also using a Macbook Pro. When I turn the volume in iTunes to 100% and the system volume to about 30%, I’m only getting about -80db from where I’m sitting. So only 22% volume must be really low. I have to turn my system volume to about 80% in order to get about -60db.
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I have the system volume set to 100%, and the audio player volume set to 22%.
I can feel my inner ear vibrating at this level, so I am hearing it clearly. If I stop the Ultrasonic, I can notice that my inner ear stops vibrating. So the sound waves are clearly reaching my ears.
More than at 22% of player volume 100% of system volume, I tend to get a mild headache.
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Do you use the FrequenSee app to see what db you’re playing these subs at?
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