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[Azriel]

@Plutus

It would make sense but that would help more for recon management and processing which I’ve had very little issues with on C&C except in a beginning. I still get results in most of the areas C&C covers except wealth which is why I shared my experience.

That’s a form of recon in my experience/opinion. emotional state and self-perception aside. Lack of results related to a sub is a form of recon, ESPECIALLY if one is noting it or finds it a point of concern/frustration.

However, I also believe the Emperor scripting with whatever new additions in C&C to focus on self-ownership first, create an energy vacuum externally, and the outside will not move until the internal is aligned. This is pure speculation, but just a theory on why C&C has caused this odd effect with a few people.

[Philemon]

It is explicitly mentioned in the pro tips section to focus on the crown first before the capital.

In my experience the first cycle was crown and after a 5 day washout and resuming I started getting crazy money manifestations. My financial reality completely changed since.

[anon15812918]

@Azriel @Philemon @Plutus it does in fact seem to be the case that unless you are actively steering and consciously guiding C&C for wealth specifically (through intention, conscious guidance and other subs in your stack), it would prioritize the crown first for most people

The cool thing is that it doesn’t seem to do that excessively. I mean, it won’t first work on the “Crown” part all the way until you’d be comfortable being a billionaire, and only then starts to work on “capital” lol. It seems to do that just enough so that you can be comfortable at a new level of “Capital”. A cycle of sorts: crown → capital → more crown → more capital → repeat

[ksub]

This sub will make you increasingly uncomfortable with small scale thinking.

[SaintSovereign]

@Plutus

In my experience, it’s been more of a skill-based sub (maybe it is and I missed that piece somewhere?). I notice my sales skills itself improved in combination with True Sell but my sales results (amount of leads, manifestation, lead size, etc) drastically reduced which is counterproductive to achieving wealth results.

By what mechanism would the same manifestation scripting that’s in R.I.C.H. that everyone has claimed generated results suddenly fail in C&C?

The current economic markets in the United States are unstable. The United States has waged two surprise wars against major players in the oil market. Inflation runs rampant. The United States government put out a video trying to convince people that they can eat a meal (what was it – a tortilla, a single piece of broccoli and a piece of chicken) on $3 in response to food instability. People can barely afford health insurance. Corporations are firing thousands of people at the time to replace them with AI. Entire regimes are falling all around the world while we sit on the precipice of World War 3.

Can you think of any other reason why your leads would be down other than “something’s wrong with C&C,” while others are thriving on it?

[bujin]

Gotta admit I’m intrigued by this sub, although I don’t have room for it right now. Maybe in the second half of the year.

But it’s obvious this is primarily intended for building long term structures, so why would people judge it based on short term manifestations? Do people not understand what they’re running?

[Philemon]

Yep probably the most long term sub in the whole catalog.

Getting some nice money manifestations here as my success reality has shifted. But realistically I expect the changes to work over at minimum 6 months.

I must say though I was planning on opening a legal structure in Dubai earlier in January. When i started running this sub I had an intuitive ping not to do it. Saved me from lots of headache and lost money.

I felt far more the effects of saving myself money and time via the crown than actually making money rapidly as in how RICH operates.

[SaintSovereign]

@Azriel

However, I also believe the Emperor scripting with whatever new additions in C&C to focus on self-ownership first, create an energy vacuum externally, and the outside will not move until the internal is aligned. This is pure speculation, but just a theory on why C&C has caused this odd effect with a few people.

It is not an “odd effect,” it is the fundamental nature of how subliminal audio works – nothing has changed there. If your system cannot hold higher results, you cannot generate higher results. There’s no explicit mechanism in C&C that says “focus on the crown first,” that’s why we put it in the pro-tips as a suggestion for you to wield consciously. Though, in most people, you will see this effect occur because most people cannot envision or support such high ambitions internally.

If you’re finding that the “crown” scripting is activating more than the “capital,” it is the byproduct of a system that cannot handle those higher results, and thus the crown scripting is helping you overcome that. Case in point:

@Plutus

In my experience, it’s been more of a skill-based sub (maybe it is and I missed that piece somewhere?). I notice my sales skills itself improved in combination with True Sell but my sales results

Of course they improve. It’s a long-term strategic development title. Long-term, just like the original. An engine to drive things forward in the long-term, as @bujin so aptly noted. If the goal is short-term increase in leads (re: stabilization of manifestation pathways) mixed with strategic vision, the proper thing to do is to stack C&C with something else – like R.I.C.H., considering that’s what it was made for. C&C was made for long-term strategic legacy building.

The original name of the title was “House of Medici.” As in, the Medici family. The super rich, elite renaissance family of which we later received the word “medicine.” The same family who funded timeless Renaissance artists like Michelangelo and LEONARDO DA VINCI.

Long-term. Elite. Dynasty building. It should not be judged on the merits of short-term sales. And honestly, @Plutus – you make so many customs and switch up titles so much that I am unsure how this is being pinned on C&C.

[ksub]

@Philemon

Yep probably the most long term sub in the whole catalog.

Getting some nice money manifestations here as my success reality has shifted. But realistically I expect the changes to work over at minimum 6 months.

I don’t even want to read anyone badmouthing this before a full year after release date.

[SaintSovereign]

@Plutus , please don’t try that on me. My job is to help guide users into using the titles properly so that they do not waste their time or money. What I have posted about C&C and subliminal audio is verifiable fact, of which we can all see by merit of customer reports all around the forum.

Since long before the launch of C&C, I have always maintained – and anyone can see this with their own eyes with a search – that the “sales stack” is EoG: True Sell + R.I.C.H. (or C&C). I think just looking at that very basic stack, one can see WHY that would be the recommendation.

[ksub]

@SaintSovereign

Of course they improve. It’s a long-term strategic development title. Long-term, just like the original. An engine to drive things forward in the long-term

I’ll say this: since I started running this sub, I’ve stopped focusing on short-term goals and shifted toward medium- and long-term thinking.

I revisited my goals for the next few months and years and simplified them with a clear, unemotional mindset. Simplification is one of the hardest disciplines if you want long-term success, something Elon Musk and Dr. Benjamin Hardy have both emphasized.

I cut out ideas that were intellectually appealing but overly complex to execute. Instead, I kept only a few projects that are much easier to implement and where the path to the first dollar is measured in weeks or months.

My target is to generate at least $100k within 12 months. Anything that doesn’t support that goal is off the list.

I didn’t operate this way before C&C.

[Niles]

@Azriel

3 minutes instead of the 30 seconds previously. I believe in newer tech, we just may not be able to handle it the same

Expierienced recon and a slower week jumping from 3 mins to 5. Resolved quickly and things picked up again, but going to be working with 3 min for Rich and C&C- and 3rd slot as a booster 30-sec to 1 min.

Was going to do limitless, but felt burnout coming pretty fast with that stack, so probably going back to GLM, or potentially BRO for my 3rd slot.

[Niles]

Noticed this as well- which is great because the long term focus has really helped me prevent sub-hopping due to shifting priorities between wealth and women lol.

Going all in on career for at least the next 3 years, building capital (social/wealth) and skills; then launching a business.

Have had pretty deep conversations with a family member who is very successful and and has capitol to back/support if we find the right opportunity, which prior to C&C, I’m not sure he would have trusted to go in with on me.

My business knowledge and understanding has gone off the charts since the rich/C&C stack, and as he was a Fortune 500 CEO, I think the financial/business fluency was a pre-requisite for that to occur.

[Niles]

My leads are quite up if it helps, working with a verb steady enterprise company helps curb- some of the things you mentioned. Also not a US company lol.

That said- the rest of my teammates have half the number of connected/appts shown this week then I do, and checking rhe reports yesterday- I have the best numbers and pipeline in the team since starting the year.

I will say, C&C is very much suited towards my specific type of sales (finance automation) and a corporate environment, and also going in office and building those connections face to face with leadership has allowed me to express a lot of the “crown” scripting more in depth then what you can do over remote work.

[ksub]

@Niles

My business knowledge and understanding has gone off the charts since the rich/C&C stack

I’m running the same stack. I’m just waiting for EOG: True Sell to drop and I’m set for a long time. C&C + R.I.C.H. + EOG: True Sell for a couple of years could be life altering!

[BeingNeo]

Has the launch date been announced for TS?

[praisetheurdtree]

@SaintSovereign

Can you think of any other reason why your leads would be down other than “something’s wrong with C&C,” while others are thriving on it?

[Martin]

@praisetheurdtree

[Forexpreneur]

This is not the alien you’re looking for

[Benny]

My Experience: ECC vs. House of Medici (Is it okay to be honest?)

​I hope it’s okay to share my experience, even if it’s not exactly what everyone wants to hear.

​I’ve been running Emperor: Crown & Capital (ECC), and I have to be honest—House of Medici (HoM) acted much faster for me when it came to building my future and my financial situation.

​When I say “fast,” I mean that within one week of using HoM, I had a clear strategy laid out and took massive action that benefited me for months. During that first cycle, I felt like the smartest guy in the room regarding money, and people recognized me as such. I was able to maneuver and outsmart any manipulation or obstacle.

​In a very difficult deal where everyone had objections and was arguing with me, HoM gave me the resilience to stay strong and ignore the naysayers until the deal was closed.

​With ECC, I definitely see the resilience and strength, but I find myself fighting with people in the worst way possible. I feel like I’m losing the ability to “play the social game” effectively. While I feel the “Crown” (authority) being built, the “Capital” (money/assets) and the strategy aren’t coming as easily as they did with HoM.

​I know ECC is technically supposed to be stronger and more advanced with the new scripting and anti-recon, but so far, it feels like “less” than what I experienced with House of Medici.

​Just wanted to share my authentic experience. Has anyone else felt this shift in social dynamics between the two?
@Niles
@praisetheurdtree