The non neediness compared to normal wanted is off the charts, normal wanted has me always checking if I’m being looked at, this dosent
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It feels like a weird critique.
If one of the main themes is her phantasizing, projecting and "What If"s, isn’t the whole point, that it can start anywhere with just an “innocent” social contact (and unexpected naughty thoughts afterwards)?
At parties the direction of travel is probably mostly clear and I suspect WDB will be wildly successful because approaching someone won’t be a problem anymore.
But the ambivalence of WDB’s pull, her daydreaming and a “safer”, unsuspecting everyday surrounding (in which normally nothing happens, but leaves an awful lot of time and space for fantasies to grow and blossom) makes this title IMO really special.
WDB feels very unique. I can really just recommend to try a cycle.
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I’m definitely much more social and also people are more social too me, especially females, seems like everyday at work all the females just want to talk to me and since I’m more social, authentic, carefree and non needy, I end up socializing a lot.
More touches from girls.
Still no overt attraction.
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I have not purchased WDB since I was not sold on the copy. I can share my detailed personal opinion if you are interested?
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Nothing to report here, I got a nasty flu 10 days ago and Im still recovering.
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What does TOO social even mean?
Like OH NO! I AM SOCIALIZING TOO MUCH AND PEOPLE LOVE ME TOO MUCH!!!
I ran this to be the WANTED bad boy who wordlessly broods in the corner while avoiding eye contact and has women throwing themselves at his feet out of desire to worship his mysteriousness 
But instead I am smiling and laughing and charming people, and everyone wants to hug me and compliment me! Women are eagerly engaging with me and maintaining conversation and eye contact and smiling at me! Meanwhile all I had to do was show up as my authentic self and let my mask drop! WHAT A DISASTER
If you don’t want to feel loved, celebrated, or warmly welcomed into the hearts of those around you, then don’t run this sub.
I won’t share more specific examples as results because the above has all been my experience on WDB.
Whatever fear anyone has around being “too social” is likely recon, self sabotage, or a protection/coping mechanism keeping you from growing into your full potential.
There are plenty of valid reasons to not run this sub, like not feeling that you are a match to the archetype. FEAR is not one of those valid reasons. Do yourself a favor and meet your shadow head on with love and understanding, you’ll come out the other side shining brighter. Don’t let outdated protection stories and mechanisms keep you from becoming who you were destined to be. Legendary.
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This is actually how I’d imagine WDB to be. Pretty cool
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Hahaha damn, I did my washout last week, and I’ve been sick with fever since last Friday.
Virus season is shitty this year.
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Stacking both Wanted and DreamBoi:
In a spiritual shop, getting last minute gifts for myself. I got friendly by asking the attractive young shop assistant for a crystal. I was surprisingly confident with a deep masculine voice that came from nowhere and straight to the point. I then see the actual shop owner who came out to see what was going on, a blonde divorcee who whispered to the assistant a shy “did he get what he wanted?” - which, given she is the owner she would take charge, right? But she was a little too deferential - was she disappointed I wasn’t her dream man?
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I don’t think the fear/concern is too social, I think the concern or 'strategic assessment ’ , if there is one, is that the sub is not sexual enough, alongside the ability to be highly social.
Like can things escalate from that space. I personally love WDB from my runs of it so far, and it does feel sexual, but less fluidity and overtly sexual as Wanted Black. So the inquiry is, is it limiting one’s ability to get sexual, intimate, or have wild encounters as well as deep sexual romance? I can’t comment yet, other than I love the personal and social effects, and generally have overstacked with it.
I can imagine it may affect sex by a woman wanting you to be their boyfriend vs just casual. Let’s see what others report on Dream boi.
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Do you find horniess to create more creepiness ?
I don’t feel that -ROTWN makes me super horny but positive and I tend to land better with people socially.
My view is wanting a woman for her body is not creepy, and neither is feeling aroused around woman. Even if you don’t know them at all.
It’s only if it feels like spectator mode, energetically trained from porn, and/or someone feels shame withdrawal while their arousal is forward. The ‘hiding’ and the mixed message can land as creepy. So is a ‘needing’ a result or to have the horniness met.
In my experience, genuinely feeling attraction, physical arousal around a woman, with no need, is one of the quickest ways to escalate sexual encounters with a new woman.
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is not that overt attraction or how would you define overt attraction?
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In my mind once you know how to express sexual energy/intent in a direct manner and play with the tension (push, pullback, let it simmer, etc.) WDB’s scripting is incredibly powerful.
I have no idea what why it’s suddently less sexual…? Since I’ve been running it I literally can’t stop creating presence bubble with my wife and cranking the temperature up just for fun.
Except these past few days as I’ve been stuck with fever, pretty annoying.
Energy on WDB is, I do agree very social and fun, but you can crank up that sexual energy pretty fast if you want to.
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In my case, the " horniness " aspect has shot up through the roof. Could do with the relaxation, the letting go and disregard of performances. Been at the gym everyday and i got lots of positive vibes around people, many girls were giving a different kind of looks compared to Wanted, WB and the aura titles. Looks of curiosity, admiration and passion. On New Wanted in particular, i got far more obvious attention and " hovering " from women and have been opened by many girls who directly made small talk or asked if i was using a dumbell/machine. With WDB is felt like i was getting warm invitations to approach at some point and i did some. Warm interactions but no attraction from me sadly, no baddies at the gym this time around it seems
Overall i feel far better and like the social aspects so much I don’t see myself using any other Wanted title for a long time. It’s just so wholesome and seems to fit my current vibe quite right.
I am more sexual, but not with my current environment yet simultaneously completely fine with it. I am looking forward to healthier relationships compared to the usual women i attract and don’t mind waiting/changing until then
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That is a limiting belief in my opinion.
Women who wanted me to be a serious boyfriend have never refused to have sex with me immediately out of some mating strategy.
I chalk that up to me being sexual and expressing interest from the jump, they know who I am and they know what I want from them in that moment. And I engage with them in such a way that they want it too.
If a woman isn’t dying to fuck you and willing to throw out whatever bullshit “wait 3 dates” rule she heard from her sorority sisters, that sounds more like a skill issue or a woman who is more interested in playing games than anything else.
Should that be the case, which I don’t think it is, as like I said the ability to “get sexual” is a skill issue not a sub issue - to anyone reading this who assessed this sub as not being sexual enough - stack it with GLM.
At the end of the day, unless you have sexual trauma you need to heal, we are men and “getting sexual” is not an issue for us.
The issue is EXPRESSING and having the confidence and LEADERSHIP to move things in a sexual direction.
If anyone feels they need a hyper sexual sub to push them to express their sexuality, I would counter and say what you actually need is an emotional healing and masculine embodiment combination of subs.
Edit - any references to “you” are not directed at you in specific Az, just a general “you” to the reader or the hypothetical man in the situation we are talking about
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This.
Like I said, learning to embody masculine energy and sexuality, and express it playfully and without heavyhandedness or demand from a woman, is the key to unlocking the full potential of not just WDB but any and all romance/seduction subs.
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I was about to say the same thing, rofl. I’m not sure what people are expecting from Dream Boy, but a woman openly touching you is a very overt sign that she’s possibly attracted to you. All you have to do at that point is ask them out.
This is still the distortion that I was hinting at. WANTED: Dream Boy is not a “social” title. It’s a seduction title. The archetype itself lends itself to easier social encounters because it’s a fun person to be around. Since people started using Dream Boy, I’ve seen more people report overt touching, or other extremely overt signs of attraction – and the name of the title is literally WANTED.
As in, people will WANT you, lol.
I am quite confused (amusingly) at some of the responses that I’ve seen. I’ve literally read reports here and support of people saying that women were more touchy with them, staring into their eyes, wanting to get them alone, showing their caretaking side more overtly and openly.
The response: “But I don’t see overt attraction…”
… WAT?
The nature of our work gives us great insight into the collective. We keep telling everyone that’s the real “secret” – our innate and now trained ability to see patterns within groups of people, large and small. And I can attest to what I’m going to say next, for I have seen it with my own eyes.
Men are weird right now when it comes to dating. And I don’t want to talk about root causes and the such, only how this can affect your results on Dream Boy. Because men are doing such weird things, women have developed some strong shielding techniques. One of them being the “harsh letdown,” where it seems like they reject a man very harshly to send a very overt signal that their attention is not wanted.
So, what is the opposite of this pole? Women wanting to touch you, or be near you. Massaging your shoulders, expressing that they want to “take care” of you. Them expressing that they feel safe around you. Their nervous system relaxing.
I think the misconception here is that the only thing that comes out of that moment is some kind of tender, loving, romantic moment. And yes, that type of moment can occur. But I think, especially when stacking Dream Boy with something else, you should really think of the type of sexual interaction that occur under those conditions.
We are talking about a situation where your sexual partner feels completely at ease to stop restraining their libido and sexual inhibitions and simply be present in the moment, letting go of all concerns that normally cloud sex.
“Is this guy going to be a creep after I sleep with him?” NOPE. The Dream Boy operates from a place of authenticity and abundance, he has no desire, nor need for that type of attachment.
“Is he going to just want me ONLY for sex?” The Dream Boy most certainly wants and enjoys sex. He is completely at peace with his physical needs, for he recognizes that sexual interaction is one of the most quintessential interactions between humans. So, no – he won’t want you JUST for sex. He’s also going to enlighten your life, relax your mind and then you’ll have some of the most freeing and intimate sex ever. He won’t have to push, because the experience is THAT liberating for both people.
Subliminal Club does not deal with shallow level analysis of these topics. We go deep into the nuances, we consider every angle. We have some pretty epic debates – and I mean we’ve almost come to fisticuffs before because we’ve disagreed on these topics and how to proceed. You can rest assured that with every title, any of these more surface level concerns (like, can you have deeply intimate and wild sex on Dream Boy) has been considered and dealt with in the script.
So the short answer is: You most certainly can, and it will probably be mindblowing.
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Exactly the situation I’ve found myself in, and what I was attempting to allude to in my post earlier too.
Well said, Saint.
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I see it more as friendly touching.
Maybe my confidence about being attractive to wanted is low right now, I used to assume all girls want me now after I have been cheated on I assume no girl want me and even now that I’m aware of it I can’t seem to raise my confidence.
Hopefully WDB will help me with that.
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@SaintSovereign I know a guy who still has Libertine ZP. Will stacking it with WDB cause weird recon? #AskingForSomeoneElseTotallyNotAskingForMyself