Main Disc. Thread - Stark ZP

Product Discussion
#1151

I agree with you on this, @Invictus.

Zp 1 had no Jarvis in my head at all, to the point where I felt normal. Once Zp 1.2 came along, holy sh*t, the voice in my head wouldn’t stop talking, “What do you think about this, blah blah blah!!!?” In my head, I was like, What the fuck is going on here? Oh, maybe it’s the inner voice module in the new ZP’s

I notice it only happens when I double-stack or the day after.

The only reason I don’t like Jarvis in my head is because I can’t stand people telling me what to do.

#1152

Q and Qv2’s scripting – to explain the concept in the simplest of terms – “asked questions” rather than presented traditional affirmations. Due to this, the idea generation scripting could express in this manner if the user was very imaginative and had a strong inner voice.

Zero Point’s scripting is drastically different and the idea generation scripting usually expresses as “eureka” moments.

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#1153

That explains why :+1:

Huge difference from Qv’s an Zp’s :wink:

#1154

I support this, was running stark this year but had to swap it with Emperor because at some point I was caving under pressure. Exams at hand, project submission, my goals, amidst thew chaos i was caving, a bit of resilience would have been needed. When I switched to Emperor I was able to handle the pressure and all but I lost the charisma, the easygoing attitude out there, the social dominance that stark gives and ended up becoming more reclusive, not complaining about that because I needed it for my goals. (My feedback)

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#1155

chill bro. Saint and Fire are not children and can decide where to draw their attention to. if they chat with @Tomcat, it means they can let themselves to have a chat with him.

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#1156

I’m rarely logged in to the forums, so please feel free to weight the value of my input accordingly. But as a longtime Stark user, this topic is dear to me.

As someone in tech product management, I love Stark for it’s idea generation, clarity of mind, the “wide-angle view”, etc. For a potential upgrade, it would be incredible to increase the dial on 3 things:

  • More groundedness (not aggression, but groundedness), the exact groundedness that is felt from Ascension. A feeling of calm, gratitude, solidity, and a tad slower speech (which makes people listen to you) is the best way I can describe that. That would be amazing in Stark (along with its split laser effect that @Fire described, it’s likability, and charisma).
  • Protection against slander (& libel) i.e. a stronger reputation preservation piece to support the fame & glory. In my experience, the fame worked and brought me close to important people, but there was also significant undermining from other groups (behind my back; could have been resolved if it had been above board). I know PCCs in there, but maybe it’s defensiveness could be bumped up a bit?
  • It makes me a bit too talkative/chatty which undermines persuasion & gravitas at times. I know that this can be consciously guided, but I’m not sure how exactly to consciously guide this (haven’t quited cracked it yet). Note that this is for me and my subconscious processing and expression of the script. But if this input is helpful, and there’s an actionable way to add a situation dependent “toggle”, I’d be super grateful.

Just sharing the voice of one longtime customer as a data point. I definitely understand the creator’s perogative on making the most balanced, and bar-raising product that needs to fit a wide range of users.

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#1157

Yes, I have faced the same issue as you and I really wish a deep focus module like Single Point would help.

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#1158

Idk about this one, the zen calm of HERO or Khan isnt something I want because Stark naturally has the Joie De Vivre module which would take away from that

I feel excited and ready to tackle on my projects. I dont need to feel calm, I wanna feel amped up which is the feeling it gives me.

Why do people drink coffee and energy drinks? Its not to feel calm its to get that wired feeling so they can tackle on their projects and goals

In terms of Groundedness and more in your frame I completely agree it needs to be more solid in frame and situations such as Slander and Persuasion.

Great points, just I completely disagree on the calmness portion cause there are titles out there that produce that effect however I miss the raw zeal and intensity of Stark the most, its what gives it the edge

#1159

I gotta add this too

Stark made me a bit undisciplined and I ended up losing a business on Stark cause I had so many things to do and I needed that discipline and resilience.

So handling the pressure is something that id love to add to it

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#1160

I would phrase it a bit differently: when running Stark, I have a harder time prioritizing tasks based on value, start every little task that exists and if not really careful run late with inportant tasks. A bit more ROI in the prioritization process would make a huge difference from my pov.

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#1161

YES. This.

#1162

I don’t disagree at all. Calm was probably not the best word but the grounded “I got this” feeling that’s always present in any situation with ascension.

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#1163

When I was in recon I was saying it felt purely for males. I recant my statement.

I’m going to be bringing it back long term next cycle.

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#1164

Just realized stark made me popular and people taking more notice of me without even realizing it in just a short period of time. I used to be this guy doing his thing and people not taking notice, can’t believe I’m now popular. It has its pros nd cons and I’m glad I’ve been able to deal with the extra attention quite well. I was just reading thru my whole journal and noticing the profound changes my life has gone through.
I understand what you mean by loss in discipline. For me it was the fact I couldn’t handle the perks of stark nd the challenges I was facing then. Final exams and I had to be very serious and spend less time. I’ll tell you what I did, I switched to emperor, changed environment and hibernate for a while, total focus on the tasks at hand.

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#1165

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#1166

interesting ，early this year ，when UWX ZP launched ，I had tested one time or two…and I also experienced that whisper in my head phenomenon…where I could clearly hear a female voice in my head guiding me to write ，at the time ，I was composing a passage of the novel….as a result，I felt inspired /almost like possessed by some supernatural being，and wrote something really poetic and suitable….next year，I will definitely revisit that beauty……

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#1167

What Saint said is probably the reason that STKS customs have had such amazing results. You’re basically asking yourself questions. Something people do every day

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#1168
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#1169

ran my first loop of stark yesterday. I’m about to head into tony robbins conference, so i wanted something social, high energy, idea-heavy, inspired, and great for networking and getting the most out of being high impact. I bought front row so I could be with the high-rollers.

Had the most interesting effect today. A change in thought. I was feeling just really PEACEFUL about money today. Less ambitious and focused on “building the empire” with a heavy need to do so… and more of a sense of life is really good, i feel great about money, i’m going to keep working but wow i am excited to work on the other areas of my life, 2024 is going to be fun!

Not that this made me less ambitious… I’m working with a great mindset today. But that peace and abundance and excitement for life isn’t something I’m really used to running Emperor/HOM… the joy from those usually comes from the joy of accomplishment, whereas this feels more like a zest for life that would make it easy to accomplish things.

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#1170

Stark focuses on making you smarter and more efficient. In my case, I would work less and harder but would get better results work wise and everything else compared to on Emperor or HoM. With HoM/Emperor I work hard and a lot more but the results or the ROI from it are lower then on Stark.

Example: On Stark sometimes the work I provide takes not much hard work and takes less then 2 hours even while being not the most focused to finish but the results/the work provided is a lot better then on HoM/Emperor even tho on it I can work for 3+ hours on it and work hard.

Aside from that I noticed which I never mentioned nor noticed till this week when I traveled. HoM makes me way too dominant for the social results I’m trying to achieve. With Stark, I still have some dominance but it comes from a place of I want to help and work with everyone type vibe then HoM where I give off the I’m a selective person vibe. Overall depends on your goals and who you want to become. In your case, Stark as I’ve mentioned probably for the whole week last week is more of you then you imagine.

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