Main Disc. Thread -- Emperor Black: Twilight of the Gods (Q Module available!)

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#1486

I got a great trailer effect after listening to EB twice but the next day (yesterday), after running it yet again I got recon aimed at my sense of internal power yet all the other aspects (cognitive boost, focus, drive) were maintained. I was not surprised as building internal power up is the main reason I’m running EB. However, upon not running it yesterday the recon has subsided and the sense of internal power has come back. I simply overexposed myself and that triggered the recon, I suppose. Only before I switched to EB, I had used to run fat stacks and keep the exposure high but the recon was really minimal since those subs were not addressing directly my main missing link on the way to the sky - internal power.

On a side note.
When the recon subsided the results of KBC got more intense as well.

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#1487

I had the same experience in my first cycle.

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#1488

I noticed that effect for the first time when I was running Stark Terminus. Later on, the results looked more like stonewalling and my baseline didn’t increase even though I kept listening to it for some time. On ZP, it’s different as it seems to sink in deeper after the initial mind-blowing results (the trailer effect). Then the baseline (when it comes to the sense of internal power) starts increasing slowly but gradually. Only on the old Commander (Q) the initial results didn’t subsided till the end of my run (for around 3-4 weeks) in that regard. I wonder how about the newest Commander.

When it comes to other results like productivity, determination, focus, cognitive boost etc. they are quite consistent.

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#1489

I get you. EB hasn’t had the same effect it had on the first cycle in my case as well.

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#1490

I was talking about a very old now version of Stark. I listened to it aorund three years ago. :blush:

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#1491

You had the exact same experience on EB as I did then. EB drove me to make the sale as long as I knew how I sold wouldn’t come back to bite me in the ass. It made me more selfish, which made me more aggressive when trying to close sales, and molding my words and personality in whatever ways I needed to, in order to increase my chances of winning “the game”…which was convincing the customer to take money from their pockets and put it into my own.

I also noticed that I was far more confident and cunning with overcoming objections without much mental effort. But I was also more blunt and if whatever I offered didn’t suit their needs, then I’d just let them know that continuing with me any further was just going to be a waste of time and they’d end up disappointed. They greatly appreciated that honesty every time.

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#1492

2 points I must say:

1- I had Wanted with the EB, but I’m pretty sure it was EB which made tge impact

2- Are you sure that Khan did not give you that aggression?

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#1493

Recon clearing,
reports to come.
Very different experience of EB after recon.
It definitely can help elements of sales tremendously.
Not clear yet if its the best for the stack, but the other effects are extremely challenging and worthwhile.

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#1494

Khan makes me very zen unless I’m disrespected, then it brings the fire out. EB for me is like Ascended mogul, I don’t need anything to start the fire cause it’s always on

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#1495

Has anyone ran emperor black with stark?

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#1496

Back on this bad mf again. Khan+PCC ZPT custom + Emperor Black + BDLM. Let’s go.

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#1497

What’s the reason behind that?

What’s the purpose?

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#1498

Emperor Black for my next fitness/strength/body transformation. It’s a bit of a sledgehammer, but I want to see the outcome. How far I can push this. I seen how much progress I’ve made in life so far, and I want to crank it up a bit.

The custom is for personal power and the social scene for where I am.

@Voytek

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#1499

Do you generally run 4 titles? How has that been?

#1500

Just 3, unless I switch out titles. Which I am trying not to do.

Custom + 2 Majors. The recon is wanting to switch though. Especially right when it’s getting intense results. @Freedom

I get progress, it’s just way more slow than if I focused on something long-term.

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#1501

I’m getting a totally opposite experience although I can agree on the part that says there’s some ancient masculinity in the sub.

  • The program is clawing away all the soft elements of my shadow that cannot be reforged into my strength.
  • It’s actually strengthening my qualities that are considered feminine by society like empathy, and connecting with people, yet at the same time it’s making me an unstoppable force but not like fire that destroys everything that stands in its way but like a strong current that flushes away what’s too weak to withstand it, and only refines and smooths out what’s already strong.
  • There’s more honor and dignity in me.
  • More kindness and respect for people.
  • Much, much less negativity towards people who are negative towards me.
  • I’m more authentic and powerful than I’ve ever been before.
  • I’m totally okay with all I do, even when it’s about giving up on something I “was supposed to” do.
  • There’s much less “shoulds” in me and much more genuine willingness to do things right and to do right things.
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#1502

It just brings out what you really want to be but are afraid of being or expressing, hence different results due to nature of ZP.

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#1503

I am having the same experience as you. I added RoM to it, and have been running KB for the past month (now on St2) and my aggressive nature has completely shifted to a point of wisdom, empathy, and compassion. If at any point I get triggered, a voice inside me stops me from getting carried away with the emotion and forces me to self introspect and find the root cause of that feeling. It’s my first week on EB. The other main thing I noticed which I didnt see in any other sub i’ve ran is, last evening I was having massive recon and was feeling very grumpy, the first thought that came was I should do something to improve my mood (eat something nice, drink or do something impulsive), but then another thought overpowered the first one and it said, delve into this sensation and stay in it, and when I did within a few minutes I was in pure bliss and calmness. As soon as I stopped resisting, I felt calmer and happier than ever. Iam loving this title.

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#1504

So as some may know, my benchmark productivity stack is AscMogul+Limitless.

I’ve never really dissected WHY that works so well.
I will do that now.

Mainly though I’m wondering if Emperor Black can replace one or both of those? Or if a stack of AscMogul+Limitless+Emperor Black is overkill?

@Forum_Ambassadors

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#1505

It’s not overkill. You could also try Emperor Black + Limitless. That’s a good combo too.

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