Your experiences with physical shifting titles?

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#1

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but the way I see it there’s active physical shifting (working out, nutrition, personal style, grooming, etc.) and passive physical shifting (ligaments, bones, fat, etc.)

I’m interested to know about the more passive shifting. From my research when it comes to facial aesthetics it really is about tongue posture. That has to be in place in order to facilitate the correct alignment of everything. Alone that’s probably a glaciers pace of change or possibly not even budging if you’re older. But I wonder if the physical shifting subs can overcome that or not.

Now this might be a limiting belief, idk. But enacting physical changes on our own bodies seems like it would naturally have some safeguards? Like why would our bodies willingly allow us to change physical features through intention alone? It throws off the balance of everything, it seems like the deeper parts of the mind would be very reluctant to change less superficial aspects. I could see hair health, muscle, or fat changes because those are constantly in flux. But underlying structures seems like there would be pushback.

In any case I’m running some physical shifting for the long haul so I guess I’ll see.

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#2

All of the things you mentioned can be affected and improved with exercise, or “active physical shifting”.

Hair I am not sure about though, but others may know.

#3

I should clarify. Not improve, change.

For context I’m transgender and trying to feminize my features. I can’t exercise away a more masculine bone structure.

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#4

Ah yes, that’s true. @AnswerGroup

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#5

Passive works for me pretty well and I will give a recent example from my new custom. My Spartan: Form and Function custom has SPS Nervous System in it and it serves two purposes.

  1. For Strength since strength and power is also a neurological (CNS) demanding.

  2. To help with nerve inflammation for my piriformis syndrome, to put it in a sentence, it basically mimics sciatica.

After about two loops I noticed a huge reduction in pain in regards to my piriformis syndrome and I worked like a mofo. I have a physically demanding job where I squat down a lot and yet I still feel better. Also I haven’t stretched yet but that will help.

In the past whenever I would have a flare up it would take about a month to clear up, if this continues though it will clear up in a week or two.

Subclub has safeguards for safety reasons in their scripting and trust me its needed lol.

That is a really good point. While I am confident that with time, action, and conscious guidance you can obtain more feminine characteristics, obviously there are some that probably wont change. IMO its finding the balance between realistic beliefs and limiting beliefs for you, but thats with any sub. However, im not entirely sure what goes into the scripts and in that regard its not my place, im just throwing in my two cents. Hopefully someone from the Answer Group and give more info than I can for you.

However, I will throw in my own suggestion. If you haven’t already HoT, or Seductress, or both will really help and if LoTS can help with transgender I am positive that one if not both can. Maybe down the road have those in a custom with Conscious Guidance MDFY

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#6

Wow that’s awesome! Thanks for sharing.

Exactly it’s been a rough thing for me to reconcile with. I’ve been running HoT for a bit now, made a custom recently too. It gives me comfort I’m doing something for myself at the subconscious level. But also the fear of what if this isn’t enough.

I’m also seeing a doctor so I’m not putting all the expectations on the sub. It would just be nice to not have to get facial surgery down the road. It’s still really early though on hormones so I’ll have to see.

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#7

This is a great way to go about it, just be patient see what comes, especially with just starting hormones, its gonna take time.

In regards to this and with what you just posted, maybe I would do New Physical Shifting experience instead since it helps with having positive experiences and reinforcement

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#8

Yeah I actually did put the new physical shifting experience module in my custom. I think it’s an awesome module. Here’s what I built for myself.

Symmetry: Helen of Troy Core
New Physical Shifting Experience Core
Synergy: Carpe Vitam
Synergy: Harmonic Conflux
Synergy: Subconscious Mastery
Safety Net
Untouchable
New Dawn
Epigenetics & DNA Modulator
Homeostasis
Unlimiter
Mosaic

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#9

A custom like that is perfect for what you need at this point in time. Down the road I would tweak it as time goes on but you have a solid foundation with that custom and it will give you most if not all of what you need

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#10

Bone structure can change at any age as well.
And it regular does with gaining or loosing weight.

If you’re 6" tall and you’re weight is 350 lbs, your bones need to be thicker and more sturdy to carry your weight. When you loose 150 lbs or even 200lbs, you don’t need this think and strong bones, so your body will shrink them down.
Also you ribcage is gone sink in again because you’ve lost all the visceral fat.

This is nothing that happens over night, but given you keep your low weight for an extended period of time this process starts on its own.

So, since our subconscious is changing bones regularly anyways, why shouldn’t it be able to change it to a more feminine form?

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#11

Thanks for this. I honestly hadn’t considered that. There’s so much to our bodies that is always changing you’re right.

I’m also honestly starting to wonder if cells hold memories. Not like visual, but impressions. Like all the years being treated as a guy, if it’s possible that’s the imprint still being held and carried out. The physical disconnect between my mind and body has been such a complicated thing over the years.

#12

I’m just reading, or rather listening to, the emotional code. It mentions, that all organs produce emotional molecules that are stored in our tissue.
So yes, our cells hold memories. At least in form of emotions.

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#13

I remember reading that one a while ago. I might take another look at it. He lost me at the magnets part, but I was very all or nothing back then so maybe he’s got some good insights I missed.

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#14

I have experienced this, not directly but some clients in the past, im a massage therapist btw. Some times just releasing some very tense muscles has caused some clients to cry, or even process some traumatic experiences.

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#15

The magnets are wonderful.
I’m used to kinesiology and using surrogates for it, but the emotion matrix and releasing emotions with magnets was absolutely new for me, as well as the concept of the heart wall.
I tried it the last couple of days and it was a very intense feeling. I was shivering, crying, and extremely tired afterwards. But if the results are as profound as they appear to become, it’s an invaluable tool.

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#16

I experienced it while doing yoga once or twice. With hip bounces I suddenly started crying, with some other stretches, I started laughing like a maniac.

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#17

Passive shifting is real.

When I got to sub club, honestly I came here because at the time I knew people who were using these files.

The best recommendation is from someone you know I suppose.

The were experimenting with ultra deep stuff but while they were experimenting with that amazing changes were happening to them.

I made a mistake a tried wanted. I tried it for the shifting aspect. But the aura aspect works too. The mistake is personal and not reflective of sub club in anyway.

I went from being a little chubby to having a six pack. Passive shifting works. I wasn’t working out.

You can do exercise too. It’d probably work better. But you don’t necessarily have to.

I think you ask a good question. Why does any of this work?

On some level we can’t approach this topic without getting into metaphor.

Why? Idk. But it look like we’re walking around in something that has a compiler built into it.it understands English modulated into around 17.5 kHz. And the system does what the high level code says to.

Why… idk. But that’s the way it appears to be. It’s fascinating. But at some point it’s just more useful to me to deal with some internal limits keeping me from achieving my best life.

Oh, and as I’m not 16 anymore my nose is getting bigger.

I’m sure the anti aging file that’s been teased for a while will deal with this.

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#18

Lol I’ve heard of this happening but haven’t experienced it myself.

#20

Nonetheless, those who have tried our physical shifting titles have gotten great results. We don’t know quite how it works (part of the Zero Point ethos is that we “let nature do her thing” in regards to this and the script just helps you set the intention), but physical shifting does seem to work well.

We don’t actually have too many openly transgender customers, however we have received reports from bisexual men in support who wanted a curvier body and they were happy with their results on Seductress + Helen of Troy.

Might want to consider running Seductress on the side (wouldn’t include it in the custom itself, since your custom seems to be very focused) to see if it’ll help you develop the body you want.

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#21

Appreciate the input. That helps me feel better.

This is a tough one for me. I’ve been running Genesis alongside that custom. But I am wondering now if I have a focused goal in mind Seductress would be better. I sadly can’t do three title stacks, I’ve determined it just doesn’t work.

I find it tough to know when I’m being guided to swap out Genesis vs recon making me ditch it. Seductress does appeal to me, just worried it won’t have that same supportive effect of Genesis.

Any thoughts?

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