Why are there no sigma male titles?

Theres loads of alpha male titles but why arent there any sigma male titles? Do fire and saint believe sigma males dont exist ?

There is, Emperor Black

But it is better to get out of these terminologies, and assess according to your goals.

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What is the most 2 clear qualities of the "sigma male " * ?! From your opinion @Judoka

Out of curiosity, what is a Sigma male to you?

I dont know much about them but im curious to know why there isnt a specifiic “sigma male” subliminal since sigma males are quite popular type of them and have heard there the on the same level or better than alphas and dont really compete in the hierachy

Sigma male is a term created by a very specific community with certain ideologies that subliminal club just does not associate with as far as I know. They seem to want to keep their individuality and unique presentation untainted by other “popular” hits.

Alpha male on the other hand is a term that is used world wide - before the manosphere was even a thing and it is understood easily without any heavy cultural implications. Even in the animal kingdom you would have scientists use this term all the time.

Certain buyers could also feel distaste or paranoia if they would see such terminology used in products descriptions - which would be no good at all since subs here dont even include ideological stuff in scripts so why then make it seem questionable ever? The subs here are meant for everyone - no matter what they believe in. If you read certain titles, you can tell what they do. They are described and created objectively and that is good. You grab what you like and youre good to go. Whatever the path might be. Its just a tool - like new shining gear.

There are a lot of titles that are alpha titles and allow you to prosper as this kind of “lone wolf”. If you read what they do, you can easily recognize the global archetype. The term you want to use for it doesnt matter. Its still the same thing. Just different words.

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Becuase the subliminals here are about you and not some mainstream advertised “label” such as Sigma Male. Subliminals here help you develop the quality within you that you may consider sigma, not what others tell you, see the difference? Here subliminals are marketed as archetypes - Emperor, Khan, etc.
But, do give Emperor Black’s description a read, in my opinion, it very much matches what you are looking for.

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Primal may give you what you are looking for…

“Sigma male is a slang term used in masculinist subcultures to describe a man who is **highly independent, self-reliant, and successful, but doesn’t fit into traditional social hierarchies…”

So jumping from that definition this part of Primal’s description jumps out at me…

Fuck all that.

A truly PRIMAL man puts his middle finger to the sky and lives to the sky-high standards he sets for himself.

Not the fake rules and ways of living and behavior imposed upon you by others – forever and only yours…

Introducing…

PRIMAL: Walk Along The Razor’s Edge.

In the original Primal, the essence was to break free from the chains that bind you, to liberate your spirit from the shackles of convention and restraint.

Now, in this evolved version of Primal, breaking the chains is not enough – we are obliterating them. It’s about shattering them so profoundly and irrevocably that they can never be reformed or recognized again.

PRIMAL is an ethos, a philosophy of living.

It’s about crafting the reality you’ve always envisioned, seizing life with both hands and molding it to fit the contours of your deepest desires.

It’s about standing, unshackled and sovereign, in a world where you dictate the terms, free from the pervasive influence of others.

This new PRIMAL is a crescendo, a roaring symphony of absolute freedom and unbridled power.

Liberation is nothing; it’s about transcending to a realm where your very existence is a testament to the raw, untamed force of your will.

Here, in this sanctum of the self-made man, you are the architect of your destiny, the master of your fate, and the sculptor of your dreams.

Embrace the PRIMAL power within, inherent to each man for one cannot escape the essence of their very beings…

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reading primal description makes me smile : )

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You should work in the marketing business

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I mean, if you naturally embody a sigma male archetype, that’s what you’ll express when you run an alpha title. As someone mentioned earlier, we simply use the term “alpha” because it’s a term that most people are aware of, but I would argue that the majority of men here are technically “sigma males,” since they’re using products that are considered “fringe” (subliminals, pheromones, binaural beats, etc.) without any care about society thinks about it.

To my understanding, the “alpha male” archetype cares a lot more about social status and wouldn’t even admit to doing things “fringe” in order to maintain popularity. So again, with our products, it’s all about expression of the true self.

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I lifted all of that from the primal store description lol

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You are just a genius :slight_smile:

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It depends on your goals…

Emperor + RICH are my go-to for this area, of the subs I’ve bought so far… some conscious guidance has to be applied here, as there is much in Emperor that is not a focus for me at the moment.

Preface:

The number of “F*** this…” moments I’ve been having over the past few months hasn’t just been increasing, it’s become a deafening roar in my head that I cannot ignore.

In short, I want OUT.

Out of the no-win politics… out of the “the more you make the more they take” wage slave economy… out of the “I MUST respect your beliefs and opinions but if I dare to have any of my own, I’ll get canceled and called vile names” insanity of a society that we’ve somehow been dragged down into. Out of the supposition that we must act like helpless children, beholden to the whims of almighty big brother whose idea of looking after us is actively making us even more helpless, uneducated, and sick, “for our own good”… and worse yet, the expectation that we should THANK them for doing all this…

No thank you. I just want to do my own thing. I couldn’t care less about social media, I don’t want any attention whatsoever (except on my business and products…), and I do not care what’s popular (right now or any time), unless it has a tangible benefit.

So…

If that qualifies me as a “Sigma male”, then cool, sounds good. If not, that’s cool too… we have enough labels being forced onto us as it is, so I’m fine just being me.

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Emperor and/or EB for sure.

Primal could help too, with guidance. As it works on levels of self-acceptance.

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I raise my glass.

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Bc sigma just means they wanted to be alpha but didn’t have the social or people skills to do so :joy:

Reminds me of the MGTOW or “Men going their own way” movement back in the day.

Jokes aside, there are a shit ton of titles that accomplish this. Sigma is really just about following your own path and having less emphasis j on leading others, while still having that strong conviction, frame, and non-reactiveness.

Emperor is more of a sigma title in my opinion, obviously emperor black, Wanted to an extent, most of the spirituality titles, and any of the skill development accomplish the objective as well.

I’d think of it as are you more of the artist or spiritual type, focused on mastering your craft, or more focused on a goal that involves leadership. That’s really the key difference IMO

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Or they are just Introvert AF… :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Search the forum for “sigma male.”

To free yourself from this belief.

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Sigma could be very introverted Alpha :slight_smile:

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