Something ive been wondering about for a while now: Which of the available subs/stacks give the closest effect to Khan? Like total sexual dominance, macho confidence, go getter attitude and heavy attraction?
Primal and PS? Primal and Emperor? I’m thinking more of similar seduction and aura effects
Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences
Perhaps Primal Seduction and The Commander 
I remember，in the past ，a lot of people said really good things about the combination of emperor and primal seduction……I had a custom with these two as cores…it had a strong solid feeling…really grounded…I felt the strong sexual desire but totally in control……not over the top horny……I am guessing the main store version might have a similar feeling… 
I think this is the answer…
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Very stackable Primal-Emperor.
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Wanted Black + Commander + Primal
Also Primal + Emperor
Basically any seduction + status + dominance sub.
Seduction status and dominance.
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Why Primal is necessary even with Wanted Black?
Added dominance. WB (for me at least) doesn’t dominate social interactions; it influences them in your favor through charm, being unreadable/unreactive, and bulletproof self assurance/confidence. The straight forward sexual dominance I experienced during my time with the previous run of khan has been most closely matched when I tested out Primal/primal seduction. There is a distinct lack of subtlety and distinct presence of bolder assertive energy. (Which isnt to say WB isnt assertive but more nuanced in its assertiveness,…)
And yet despite all of that I DO think just wanted black + Commander could give khan a run for its money in terms of social/sexual/status dominance….Commander is the most instant status increasing sub i have ever ran….and WB is the best social mastery sub i have ever run……
So yeah you’re right; primal isn’t neccesary. John Wingliss the Commander could topple Khan’s empire 
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Now that I think about it, WB-Primal sounds like the closest option, especially if emphasising on sexual dominance. WB-Commander seems great if going more for status, I feel like.
He is correct based on my previous experiences.
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Please elaborate on the commander , results etc and what you found made it unique
Where does Khan Black fit into this mix? Or does it? I’ve been thinking about Khan Black + Primal + Wanted Black. I’m still sort of new to Sub Club and I’m almost done with my third cycle of Ascension + Love Bomb
I’ve never run most of the subs mentioned in here, but LB and Ascension are two of my favorites. I’ve run each of them for 3 month each and then combined them in a custom. Pure Gold.
And I can only encourage you, to run them both for half a year, to get a better picture what they can do for you before getting an another title out of fomo.
For the Black titles, I’d say wait until you’ve run SC subs for 6 months.
Firstly, both of your titles lay a solid foundation for both Khan and Wanted Black.
Secondly, six months is barely enough to get accustomed to detecting the intricacies of subliminal work in your subconscious mind.
Labels like Black or Artisanal aren’t just for fun or marketing slogans.
They need some experience with SC subs.
So congratulations on choosing two of my favorite subs as starters, and the recommendation to keep them for another 3 months.
That’s probably some good advice to keep doing what I’m doing for another 3 cycles. FOMO yeah I think I can definitely relate to that. So many good titles on here
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I think the closest sub to Khan is Khan itself.
Primal and Emperor come nowhere near Khan, in my experience.
It’s still a great combo but nothing like Khan
Khan is a league of it’s own. The Will to Power has been pointed out to me as elements of ambition and social dominance that are akin to a softer, lighter Khan
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