its recommended to run AM before Emperor. if u follow this recommendation what would be a good point in ur life, on AM, to move to emperor?
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just go for it
Maybe now, maybe never, only one way to know.
im re-reading the copy rn. i might replace my GLM custom with Emperor
You’ve got shiny object syndrome and whatever else. Constantly scheming, planning or imagining.
You haven’t even finished DR yet. Stage 4 is dense. I ran a 13 piece Paragon custom with a stage 4 full DR custom and it was a lot.
I can’t imagine running Emperor + DR Stage 4.
Personal opinion, just run DR and let the other subs go as you finish. The more you stack, the longer it takes. Less is more bro.
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its chronic.
u make a good point. i might test taking GLM out and it would be just DR and PZzz. stage 4 could be too big for the 3
You’ve got a lot to process. Even when you stop listening to one sub, it still continues to process.
It felt like compounding for me with my run, if I ran a loop and didn’t rest enough, the next loop just felt like a burden.
When was your last washout? I personally can’t listen to subs more than twice a week. Be honest with yourself, this a journey, no point in rushing.
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i just started my washout. i finished the cycle yesterday. i was running DRST3 or (PZzz+ GLM custom) every other day at 5min loops.
If you want to run it. Just do it
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I’d say the reason emperor comes after AM is because not only is it a denser sub, but circumstantially speaking it’s best run once you have obtained a bit of a financial grounding to “start your empire”
It’s like going from 0 to 100 off the bat
For example, if you’ve never had a job before, have no savings, you would benefit most from AM as it teaches you more direct skills to obtain some independence.
Emperor is big picture skills and utilizing what you already have learned to create something for your self, an empire.
I made the jump of running khan as my first sub, and whilst it did help, my immediate reality was so far from the khan I envisioned myself it caused a ton of reconciliation. Had I run say AM first and set that as my base while I built myself up it may have been a smoother ride. That’s just my opinion.
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Anyone can run Emperor. Just start with 2-3 loops per week instead of 3-4 loops, and maybe start with 5 minute loops, so that you can see for yourself how emperor affects you instead of needing confirmation from us.
TBH “advanced” subliminals could be run by anybody, so long as they’re smart about it.
No issue with someone’s first subliminal being Khan or Dragon Reborn so long as they’re starting with 3 minute loops once every two weeks just to really make sure they’re not going to end up in recon hell
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I would say run Emperor when you don’t get recon from Ascended Mogul. Timeframe? Not sure. Maybe 2-3 months after AM usage.
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“don’t get recon” yes, so obvious but i didnt think of it.
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Sometimes we need to hear this bluntly, SOS is no joke, when that recon hits it’s back to the drawing board. 
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When you’ve build solid internal power and its sense as Emperor is based on both and taps into them massively.
There are lots of program helping with that like Ascension, EB, GLM, or Commander.
Nice metric. lol
What about two cycles on AM + LD and then go on Emperor?
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I’m afraid Maths doesn’t apply to Mental Alchemy. He needs to self-introspect, gauge and evaluate the progress.
The stack is a very good suggestion, though.
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@Abundance , your original post did not mention what other subliminals you are currently playing. It seems that @Geoff may be more familiar with your current stack.
If you are currently working through DR Stage 4, complete that first. You don’t even need to worry about losing time.
DR will contribute to the same goals as Emperor. It just does so in its own unique way and feels different while it is doing it. I got multiple beneficial manifestations on Dragon Reborn. It is a powerful healing program; but it does more than just shifting your mindset and trauma-responses. I got a better office, multiple wealth manifestations, more freedom in my work, and so on. All on Dragon Reborn.
You’re not losing time by focusing fully on DR.
So could you confirm what programs you are currently playing?
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im in a washout rn. i was running DRST3 + PZzz + a GLM custom with mostly result enhancers. im planing to take the GLM custom out to see if it was too much and if i will get better results.
And what is your planned stack after you have completed this washout? In other words, how is your planned stack related to the topic of this discussion thread?