Is the upgdare worth the extra $39?
It’s just providing us with lots of options. Heck, we can even make customs in legacy mask! With regard to FLAC, it probably depends most on how we will be playing our subs…
Just like how much better is a custom in 320kbps to 192kbps or ZPT2 to ZP(S)…
I have 2 ZP customs @ZPT2 192kbps
but I’m now using
1 ZP custom @ZP(S) 320kbps
as I think it may be easier or more versatile to use 1 ZP custom with most of what I need at a lower power.
Depends on 1) how you listen to your subs (using AirPods, or studio grade monitors?) and 2) how attentive you are to audio.
Whether or not it has an impact on the results remains to be seen.
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Yes
Flac - better results
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I only order flac customs, it is better.
Try the flac store titles(i.e. Emperor) and their mp3 variants yourself
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How is it better compared to 320kbps?
I saw some posts that flac is only more beneficial if one is using hard wired headphones, no real difference between between flac/mp3 if using Bluetooth.
How do you listen? And what have you noticed in Flac vs. Mp3
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I always use hardwired.
Flac reachers deeper levels of unconscious mind i know this because of the transitions i am making. These transitions come from a deeper place and impact me differently, the changes that are subtle become more obvious, i.e how i think about using my time (on Emperor). When using the 320 kbps i had changes that are more obvious to me, it is a bit hard to explain because you have to be really aware to know the difference. My process is a bit more different than yours because i rely upon the answers and guidance i wake up to in the morning. Which can be hard to phantom for some.
If you are interested there is a topic: all you wanna know about flacs that might give an answer that is more suited for you.
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Interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Cultivating that deep awareness really makes a difference. I’ve been struggling myself but I’ve since lowered my listening times and experience less reconciliation, hoping to understand my thoughts and moods like you do currently.
I have no issues with flac, when I used the experimental flac version of ascension. It was intense. I only ran it twice in total and had to go back to regular version because it was so strong. So I can agree that Flac is better. If I had high quality wired headphones, I’d use flac too. I’ll probably build my future customs in flac if I’m being honest, even if I do use Bluetooth earbuds.
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There shouldn’t be any difference.
Why? Because the subliminals work in the MP3 format. It’s how SubClub’s products have always been delivered.
If FLACs were better, then that would mean some data is lost in the MP3 compression – data which the subconscious needs to “hear” in order to grow more profoundly.
This itself implies that the MP3s lose essential data of the script – the script of affirmations that @Fire and @SaintSovereign produced.
This can’t be so, because SubClub has used the MP3 format for years and everyone received the full amount of benefits from the scripting within the subliminal.
So if an MP3 does not lose any data from the script, then what could be the benefit of a FLAC? MP3 files are designed to remove audio elements that are unnecessary. Who defines “unnecessary”? Obviously, in the neurotechnology field, the definition has to be different, since we are using subliminal scripting. Again, though – if any part of the script were lost in the MP3 compression, SubClub could have never used that as the format in the first place.
Potentially (and this is highly hypothetical and rather unlikely, IMHO) the subconscious might perceive a FLAC-mastered file as more natural. I can’t pretend to know enough about the subconscious to say whether or not this has an effect on the results. It seems unlikely to me since the subconscious is still receiving all the scripting/affirmation data from an MP3 file.
The MP3 compressin algorithm has been engineered by scientists and developers to create a result that is indistinguishable from lossless FLAC format. It is generally considered a myth that lossless compression sounds better than lossy MP3. However, it is also considered a myth that subliminals would work, but we know they do.
Obviously, in some cases, MP3 compression ruins the intended effect of neurotechnological audio. For example, to maintain the ultrasound component of audio, you have to disable the high-pass filter which is natively embedded in the MP3 compression algorithm. This is probably done by the SubClub team as they export the final track to MP3. (The LAME encoder and other DAWs have a lot of options for customizing the MP3 compression.)
I see it as binary: either the subliminal works, or it doesn’t. The subtle gains of detail from lossless FLAC compression shouldn’t affect results in the slightest, if I apply a scientific way of thinking. I think it is not worth the extra money. But it’s up to you, and again – I cannot pretend to understand how the subconscious works and how it may potentially recognize the very subtle details present in a FLAC file that are not present in an MP3.
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Hello folks,
I am faced with the decision to choose 320kbps.mp3 or flac 
Now that I’ve read everything I could find on the forum, I’m still unsure about my decision. Opinions seem to vary greatly here.
I had understood an older post that at that time no major differences between these formats could be determined:
"Question: Is it possible that it decreases the sub quality by compressing it into lossy 320kbps format?
Saint Souvereign: Doubtful, we already tested higher quality versus .mp3 and didn’t really observe a difference in results. That being said, we’re open to testing it again, but it’ll be a bit."
Are there any new findings or tests as to whether and to what extent flac leads to better results? What experiences have you done? Is it worth investing in flac? How much better results can be expected?
Relevant for me personally, among other things, because mp3 formats, in contrast to flac, can be played by any audio device.
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