I’ll say this. What some women want has left me scratching my head over the years. Some women want alphas, some couldn’t give a shit. I think trying to figure out an answer to this question is literally impossible given the variability of humans in general.
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I am still thinking about the origin of this question.
Like, what if you KNEW exactly what women want?
Would you change yourself to be exactly what she wants?
Neglecting yourself in the process?
Trust me that is the WORST thing you can do.
A woman wants to JOIN a man’s life and go with him on an adventure.
If you make her your life, she can’t join anything.
Be your own man. Have a mission. Set boundaries, and ruthlessly follow your goals. Then women won’t be an issue.
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When we look at evolutionary biology for the answer, what women want becomes quite clear. Check out Rollo Tomassi’s Rational Male series. The first book itself is eye opening and enough if you want to know why women work under “the feminine mystique”. And why they themselves find it hard to answer this question. Or they answer it but you get confused why when you fulfill all this criteria, they still don’t want to sleep with you.
The best solution I have found is to cover all your bases. Improve your body, mind, heart, finances, status, game, etc. That way you too enjoy your life due to all those improvements and hence the women who enter your life will desire to share your “Joie De Vivre” with you.
And with regard to improving our lives, we can for a moment forget the question of “What do women want?” and ask ourselves “What do I as a man want?” which is purpose.
It’s hard to not love a man on his purpose. Even other men respect him and want to be him. And women love men who have that drive. Or we can say:
Women want men who know what they as men want
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I’m just saying we have to recognize that books like the Rational Male or any type of “women want this” blanket statements are a subsection of the population. What about women that want submissive guys? Women that live vagabond lifestyles, pretty much throwing out the idea of financial status? Women that intentionally go after guys with overweight builds vs fit chiselled physique? Women who are asexual? Women are humans and I find that humans in general are so diverse. We have evolutionary biology, but we also have a higher mind that distinguishes us from purely instinctual animal instincts. I’m sure Rollo’s observations aren’t wrong based on his personal experiences, but they probably aren’t the whole picture. And the fact that he’s selling a book, of course he has to frame it as having the answer to everything women related.
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Most women across the board want the same thing in a man. The exception doesn’t make the rule. Of course there will be exceptions in life but most women want the same thing in a man. Raphael also hit the nail in the head when it comes to purpose. Most women if not all women want a man whose driven, ambitious and has a purpose in life and is going after it.
Asking what women want is the wrong question in life to get women, being on your purpose Is the most important thing and as a side bonus you attract women
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Our attractions are largely shaped by genetic factors. The way most men like curvy women with small waists, women are largely attracted to alpha males.
There are exceptions to the rule. For example women liking submissive guys. But even these women who prefer submissive guys like guys who are dominant. But not all women who like dominant men like submissive guys.
So the idea is to play to the majority rather than look for the needle in the haystack. Because every rule has exceptions but if you look for the exceptions, it could take a long time or never happen.
Maybe something like Heartsong could help with finding those exceptions 
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I agree with what you’re saying and I’ve talked about the Rational Male extensively.
It is a VERY objective observation of intersexual dynamics on a VERY basic level.
There are certain truths which are correct for man and woman alike which work on a primitive level. Darwinistic, if you want. This is what this book is.
It helps you to understand the basic drive on how women decide to have sex, yes.
But there is so much more to it 
Also Rollo Himself became a bitter old women-hater. So while the book is good for a snapshot in reality, you need to proceed after that.
I can personally attest that the things mentioned in The Rational Male DO WORK. But it has a very negative side to it, and it really is only focused on “spinning plates” as he calls it. Which means having multiple women in “rotation.”
For marriage or LTR, you can only apply about 30% of the book. Still it describes quite well the animalistic, primitive drive of man and woman.
But, I’d say it’s the first step for the majority of men who don’t get shit done with their women. It opens eyes.
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@AlexanderGraves - I would disagree with that. Rollo has many times said that he is laying out the facts. He neither hates women nor does he recommend rotation for married men. He himself is a married man faithful to his wife. He only states that with the current way the world is gynocentric, he doesn’t recommend marriage for the young man especially with current alimony and divorce laws.
The truths about female nature are very hard to digest for the modern man when in fact it was discussed between father and son before. Nowadays such truths are called women-hating.
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Yeah man I don’t touch anything with “red pill” on it. It’s a giant red flag for me. I’m reading a bunch of reviews for this book where he just casually mentions studies without citing them at all. That’s a no go for me. If I want to learn evolutionary biology I’ll get it from a scientific source with real studies and form my own opinions.
Having said that science is not the end all be all. I’d be worried Rollo is interpreting some of those studies through his lense of reality. Even the most “rational” male isn’t free of bias.
@Lion I see what you were talking about now. You’re providing an answer. I’m pretty much pondering philosophical musings on the very question itself. So I think that’s why we aren’t meeting at the same point.
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Atm, I’m totally indifferent towards the ladys. I’m just walking around like a kid in a toy store, and notice them first if they stray within my little bubble 
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In the end, we have to find our own answers and live our own lives so we will have to figure stuff out.
For example, in my case am not quite into the concept of marriage so I don’t have to worry about the things you do because my lifestyle will be different. I have to find solutions for the way I want to live. Similarly I do sincerely hope you find yours.
As it is, subliminals over here does take us way beyond our normal way of living so there must be something more to it.
If our current subconscious programming and biology is like Newtonian physics, the subliminals could be like Quantum physics helping us go beyond our basic programming.
Am experimenting myself to see if this can be done with my own life.
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This is the token rationalization that always comes up.
See, I am not denying that there is truth to what he says. I still recommend the first book for most men as mandatory reading. But you gotta proceed.
Which would be The Way of the Superior Man or The Book of Pook.
For example.
These talk about masculine purpose, your core and the Man’s Edge. They are focused on YOU. Whereas the Rational Male only ever talks about women. And if you check out his Twitter he IS hating a lot on women. There is bitterness in all he writes. Many just don’t see it because they see him as their god who brought down the prophecy. (Not saying you do).
Again, I am not saying don’t read it, but as with every knowledge, be careful and make up your own mind.
Also, the Red Pill started as something completely different. I’ve been in this space for over 5 years. Became a joke recently 
After all, just get Wanted ZP and you don’t have to worry about this at all haha
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Rollo is not a women hater
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Very good point.
The thing with finding the answers to questions is how can you know what you’re really uncovering is an answer vs a reflection of your own internal belief system? That’s what Ive been pondering. Especially what you said here with going beyond basic programming. We’re on a threshold of pushing past perceived human limitations with these subs and it really shakes up the foundation of what reality is.
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Yeah that’s all I am gonna say about this. I probably already said too much haha
If it works for you, by all means proceed with it.
Also, I think the initial question has already been answered multiple times, but anyway.
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We will agree to disagree here, @AlexanderGraves. I still stand by my statement that Rollo doesn’t hate women. Have watched him on his YouTube channel for several years and he sounds very logical in all his statements and is always ready to learn something new.
Anyways, not the right forum to discuss red pill content so I will give it a break.
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That’s what I realized a while ago as well.
The first sub you choose - for example - on SC is chosen by your prior belief system.
By your old programming.
Which is why I love how the core scripting (apparently especially in ZP) brings out your core, so you can then choose from a blank slate!
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I did read this thread.
First,
@Trader I’m going to ask you a question. You’re a smart man. You’re very knowledgeable. I’m sure you’ve thought about this question before. So… What brought this up about what women want? Why now?
Second,
If you are man who likes women,
and
If ZP does what I think it’s doing, I’m thinking running WANTED ZP is going to make all of the above discussion in this thread irrelevant.
If ZP is released for WANTED and Seductress… Welcome to the future of dating and mating.
@Brandon dude, stand by, I’m confident SC will hack this for those who are non-heterosexual, as well as for those who are non-binary.
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These are my answer better explained
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I appreciate you and the community always thinking of me and ensuring the best for me.
I have absolutely no worries that SC will figure it out for me and people like me.
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