I have been reading on the forum ppl r saying DR is tough. Warning ppl its not an easy sub.
I have been running it alongside 2 customs to reduce any anticipated recon. so far I’ve only listened to stages 1 and 2. In my experience my life was tougher before listening and its only getting better since I started DR.
I am curious what is so tough about DR for ppl who ran it? Why so much warning? What did you experience?
I think it was tough for me because I skipped stage 3. I felt a bit ill emotionally for 2 months, and a bit ill in my stomach for about 2 weeks. It was unpleasant, but I knew there would be a longer term pay off.
Now that it’s ZP… you can’t hide from ZP. ZP seems to destroy self-deception, as does DR.
DR tries to heal everything very quickly and thoroughly. It can be draining. That’s what the warnings are for.
I personally haven’t revisited DR. Last time I ran it, I started to get very dysfunctional. It was the emotional weight of everything coming up combined with no support system and the demands of every day living. Additionally my own inability to regulate my own emotions.
Glad it’s working for you. I don’t know what would have happened if I stuck it out but I couldn’t keep going on it.
This is the exact reason I have so much trouble being consistent with Dragon Reborn myself. It makes me crazy anxious. It’s not an option for me until I am not living in a very toxic environment. It’s messed up but I have to deal with a narcissist every day.
That’s definitely a tough one. That seems to be the great paradox of healing titles in general, the individuals who would most benefit from them are already in choppy waters and sometimes things get worse. This isn’t reserved to subliminals. When it comes to therapy as well, it’s very very hard to make positive impacts on your life when you’re stuck in an environment that’s not conducive to growth. Unfortunately I’ve found that if you’re not part of the privileged individuals with stellar mental health you’re already in a toxic environment by default here in the US.
For me, it was overeating and procrastinating. It was as if I had needed more energy since the whole process was a bit draining energy-wise.
I’ve only been through stages 1 and 2 twice, hitting some block right before stage 3.
1 and 2 weren’t terribly tough. I’d have incredible insights consistently, and it was fulfilling to see connections so often.
My hold-up is more the infantile fear of not having that old identity. I grew up being very dependent on others since it worked. Very unhealthy now since I’ve still used that mindset, and I’m over 50.
The root fear? Abandonment. Me abandoning myself most likely. (Tears came while writing that, so yes.)
That’s been my point when I’ve pulled off DR.
I’ve been thinking about resuming it. I felt like a failure, thus keeping me off the forum. Breaking away from BSing was one thing, my past battles. Facing the truth consistently is another.
And to be honest, I keep wanting it easy, which is the childhood mindset surfacing. I haven’t decided yet. Doing other SC subs currently.
Letting go of my past while not abandoning myself completely has been my troublesome spot.
I wrote it down in my journal today:
I feel another reason why I’ve had a difficult time being consistent with Dragon Reborn is because I’m concerned I won’t recognize myself when I’m finished running it.
No idea why I feel that way because that happening might not be a bad thing. Obviously the way I have been doing things isn’t working so maybe we need to fire my mindset and hire a new one
I wrote this this morning, and I realized I wasn’t clear. “Easy” has not been my core reason for not finishing DR. I’ve just reacted to pain I’d imagine about being abandoned, by myself or others. This is an early, early memory, and it seems to transpire as if I’m under a threat of death. To my mind, it responded accordingly.
So, in short, I ducked out when all I saw was pain before me. Makes me consider Sanguine more going forward. That sub I’ve never used full-time. I’d just use it once or twice, but no more.
I can really relate James. Who is subliminalguy without emotional shields and swords to keep people at a distance? Would I know how and when to drop my guard to people? (I have known when to drop my guard, having re-read my last DR journal days ago.)
I’m on Emperor and LBFH now, and I’ve realized a reason I chose Emperor was to keep a “shield” up to people so I might not be hurt. LBFH is doing something opposite though. It’s softening me, for good. People have been showing interest in being around me again.
Familiar feeling here as well. Can I give you a reframe for that one?
All the limitations, pain, frustrations in your life likely stunted your development as a person. In all likelihood what you feel is familiar is 1/4 of who you really are. So really letting go of it isn’t letting go of yourself, it’s letting go of the dysfunctional patterns that keep you from being your full self.
I wanted to respond to this topic; but it’s difficult. Dragon Reborn was probably the most mysterious program that I experienced. The second most mysterious program for me was Mind’s Eye.
In both cases, it was always clear that something was happening, but I was never completely clear on what it was.
Part of that was because of me. I generally like to leave the experts to their jobs. I don’t generally run after the subliminals asking what they’re “doing right now”. I do think about it; but I also like to give them space to breathe.
I know that both of these programs did a lot for me. But they remain, to this day, a bit mysterious.
I’m looking forward to getting back to DR once things open up for it. I have a sweet and beautiful DR4 custom that is just sitting and waiting for me.
One of the main results that I associate with the Dragon Reborn program is very noticeable alignments. During my run and after my run, I found myself more and more being contacted or sought out to do things that aligned with my values and desires. It was very striking and has continued up to this day.
Dragon Reborn can facilitate shifts by itself; but it can also synergize with other programs that are run at the same time or in the past.
I think that both of these happened. Prior to running Dragon Reborn, I ran a custom that contained Yggdrasil and Jupiter for about a year. I imagine that there must have been some synergy there.
In a fairly brief period of time, there were a number of changes in my work that made it much more interesting for me. It felt subtle, and while I did notice it, I just took it in stride. But when you add all of them up together, it’s clear that a significant shift has been happening. I just noticed and reflected on this today, so I thought I’d type it here.
Oh this is a great topic.
What is challenging is it makes you sort of relive a lot of the past trauma’s or negative experiences you’ve hidden away, in order to process and heal from them.
Recon was very high, and I went through periods of deep introspection.
Would recommend allocating some time to do this successfully, and not doing it around periods of productivity.
Being patient and taking the time to work through everything. Healing is not linear and it’s taking me most of my life to realize and accept this.
well said. Always be learning. The road to success is a windy road.
The recon is why I have had to drop to five minute loops and not stack Dragon Reborn with anything else.
Drudging all the mental and emotional garbage can be incredibly overwhelming.
I see people everyday who I feel would benefit so much from Dragon Reborn and yet I’m curious if I’m projecting my own issues onto others because I hate having to work through all of this shit and yet it has to be done.
I get so focused on what’s messed up about other people or how they’re able to be successful or whatever when I have a fuck ton of shit to work through.Probably as a defense mechanism to avoid or procrastinate working through my own crap. It may not be entirely our fault for how messed up we are but it is our responsibility. As much as I hate that phrase it’s true.
As cliche as it is comparing yourself to anyone else is setting yourself up for nothing but disappointment. Everyone is on a different path and in a different place in their lives and growth. I am writing this to remind myself as well
The post you’ve written is an indicator of massive progress in healing.
Seems like you’re kicking ass.
Keep the climb 🧗♂️