What to do when your “light” is too much for others…

Alright, I’ve read this thread a few times.

@TheEmpress you were wanting input.

This is something I would like you to ponder. People gave you input. Whether you had expectations or hopes of what people might give, or whether you had none, you did get input. You mentioned a few times feeling vulnerable. If you are at a point in your life when you are feeling vulnerable and then ask for input, you might get input that is not-so-pleasant (or perhaps neither validating nor reassuring) and then you might feel angry, disappointed, or more vulnerable.

@IRON I get your point about that meme or quotes or picture-of-someone-with-words-on-it. You have been participating more here, and I’m glad to see that. There is something I would like you to ponder. You are at a point in your life where I think you are contemplating a number of important topics. I would guess that includes self-respect, your self-image, and how to better relate to others. I’m guessing you are probably examining some of your values and how to better apply them. If you are walking away from certain conversations in your life or calling people out about certain things they do, I would imagine you are being more demonstrative about your values. Perhaps even more so if you think someone is violating one of your values. In light of that, do you think it was possible that you could have gotten your point across with less “intensity”?

I’m wondering if part of what happened here is that vulnerability in one person was exposed to someone asserting a value.

Now you’re both adults. I don’t expect you to “make nice, shake hands, and be friends”. However please both of you contemplate. You don’t have to write anything here in response, just please contemplate.

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Zen.

Own it
Learn from it
and move on

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This was me in the past.

I always needed my wife to love me, to show it, to appreciate my love etc.

It was a hard pill to swallow that it doesn’t mean she doesn’t love me, it just means I am exhausting her.
But not because she cant handle my love.
But because I cant handle myself.
My external validation.

Once I solved this (with healing subs), I could finally let go and the relationship improve a lot.

I don’t know if this is @TheEmpress problem.
Maybe not.
But worth introspecting about.

And if it isn’t, and other people literally just cant handle you: move on.
You don’t owe anything to anybody.

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Then let him come forth and elaborate on it, instead of trying to guess into the words :slight_smile:

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For some reason I just heard a voice in my head say, “yes master.”

What the heck :joy:

It’s Hegemon and King’s radiance in my custom.

You can’t escape it :sunglasses:

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I took the past few hours to reflect on this deeply. I could list pros and cons of my approach yet, don’t clearly see whether it was “right” or “wrong” to me. I understand that wasn’t the question you gave me RVconsultant and yes I could have chosen calmer and more at ease approach like you do for example.

I understand why you would question my ways. You take care of this forum and would most likely not support such “on edge” approaches such as mine for the sake of maintaining forums peace and avoiding of possible unwanted events from happening. I respect that. I am but a guest here and It wasn’t my intent to cause clash. At that moment, It wasn’t in my mind.

I feel though that even if in your eyes there were better ways to approach it - ways that would be more peaceful, I did not cross any lines and maintained myself pretty okay. Could have it been better? Always can.

Is the sharp and direct approach appropriate when I see someone being repeatedly attacked on this forum? I would believe so. Maybe I got a bit too invested and I felt like some wrongs were being done and I felt a sense of call to stand up.

One approach or another, be it yours or mine or someone elses, Im not wise enough to judge which one was best.

I could have been less invested I see that but I believe I did well either way and do not regret today. I feel like I grew through this, I feel like others did as well, I feel like I held someone’s back when no one else would and I’m partly writing this so that I can go to sleep with clear consciousness. It was a good day and tomorrow will be better and better.

If youd like to give me your insight into why you asked me to reconsider my approach though, Im happy to listen.

You deal with people in subtle ways. You make them question their inner workings bit by bit so that you never accuse them but rather, encourage them to look within and see it for themselves. This is a little more long term strategy sometimes. Very effective, much smoother and on top, makes you more likeable. I see why you would prefer such approach over this one.

What if I however just wanted to do it in one shot? What if I’m not willing to stop by and ask again and again certain questions to help. What if my goal was to only stop something by pointing it out in that moment bluntly? Is that an approach you do not personally take? I would understand if you would not. What’s your take on being direct with people when you feel like they are “crossing line” ? Is it sometimes the optimal way to deal with things to you or is it just a big no no because the chances of resistance and not resolving the problem too big? Don’t you feel like sometimes people need to be told things directly just like literally any other day on these forums?

And even if lets say the person gets defensive and closes off due to stress they would get from that “edge” - it would at least make them stop doing the thing that caused it in the first place. I understand here you don’t want to punish or scare people - you would probably want to grow their minds so that they see past it all and learn on their own but I have a feeling that sometimes putting something right in front of them is the only way to make them see it. I could very well be wrong though.

my reasoning for my approach currently:

I do not care enough to talk to every person online in a way to make sure that they do not feel confronted / uncomfortable. It’s just not the way I want to live. I don’t mind if people think I’m bad because I didn’t take a more gentle approach. I said the truth and if they take it, they do. If not, it will be their loss and they will continue living their life with that flaw unnoticed. I do not care to put in extra hours to be more slight and effective to help some random person on the internet. If I see something, I say it if I see harm in it. I can’t talk to everyone about everything gently. Maybe one day if I become a mod and would get paid for it sure (unsure if you get paid for helping people here but I believe you should due to all the time and effort and wisdom you put in). But until then, I’ll save my energy and time for other things. I’m not super into changing people but I also don’t believe I should be quiet when I see some injustice in my eyes.

also this is beyond eathangel I’m talking from a very broad view and looking into these concepts. I didn’t think of earthangel when writing this so please do not take it personally.

The journey with Subc & especially with Genesis taught me in a loving but direct way that what I always labeled as my “light” in the past was instead my inner child looking for external validation via judging others as less spiritually evolved than me. In a few words, I was diminishing others by implying I was spiritually better than them because my “light” was very strong compared to theirs. So whenever I was feeling a trigger inside me I told myself I was feeling others’ heavy baggage because of my “light”.

When I started my job in a gym environment where I had to interact with different new people I found myself not judging others & accepting them as they are, while setting healthy boundaries of course. Then I realized that I was less sensitive to other people’s presence due to the fact that I was using my love energy towards them.

Love Bomb for Humanity also taught what unconditional love really is, an invisible force that brings peace & acceptance instead of spiritually bypassing and/or spiritually judging others. And let me tell you something else…What a relief to live life without all of those labels & subtle judging of others.

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Isn’t that wonderful ?

Care to elaborate on this? Accept them as they are

I don’t feel I am superior or better than anyone else. I don’t feel I am judging people as having less light or strength than me spiritually.

My head hurts even trying to explain what I am thinking right now & I’ll just stop.

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I often suspect that it’s an endless process. And no one ever really “gets there”.

If you’re lucky to live long enough, you get the chance to see what you experience today as great enlightenment eventually be revealed as utter foolishness. And if you’re really lucky, you get to experience that happening over and over again.

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@TheEmpress It’s not so easy to explain the concept of accepting others as they are with proper words. When I see another human being no labels or judgments for being other than me appear in my conscious mind. Maybe because I am not judging myself too anymore, so that judgment/labeling filter is not there too.

That’s a true testimonial of what cultivating Love for yourself (which then overflows to others as well) do to your environment.

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Got me thinking of my yogic philosophy notes.

SAMADHI – Bliss or Enlightenment.

The eight limb of yoga.

From my understanding, we may be lucky to visit this limb, but we don’t stay there.

Sounds very blissful

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@TheEmpress Yes, that’s the power of these subliminals. Several decades of inner turmoil, anger & judgment have gone for good. Thanks @Fire @SaintSovereign

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Even Samadhi is not everything

Even Nibbana

Even Nirodha Samapatti

Even “Enlightenment”.

Just work at living a decent life.

Just my Opinions.

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My focus is on continuing to be the best version of myself in this life time, with as much fun as possible.

More playmates, more possibilities :sweat_smile::blush::heart:

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@Yazooneh I was thinking about one of your posts above and was going to comment.

I first want to congratulate you for having the self-discipline to re-evaluate what you typed. I say that because you deleted it before I commented on it. I imagine your self-discipline in the areas of training and conditioning are starting to move in to other parts of your life. Honestly there were things in that post you deleted that seemed negative or could have been negative, and I wanted to edit it.

So here is what I will say in general, and this applies to everyone. It seems to be that whether people are conscious of this or not, there are people on here who present and post on this forum to fulfill emotional needs. It could be a desire for a reality check. Maybe to feel less isolated. Perhaps for validation. The desire to contribute, or altruism. Also there is wanting to be “seen”, to be made visible, as though to affirm that what they are experiencing is really happening. And so forth. I believe no matter how stoic someone is that most people are getting at least one emotional need met here by posting or “lurking”.

To be blunt, some people are going to find certain emotional needs annoying. Some people might feel annoyed by a person continually announcing their successes. Others might feel annoyed by someone seeking reassurance. Etc. If you are feeling annoyed by someone wanting an emotional need satisfied, you can just ignore it.

I tell y’all, it’s been recon city here lately.

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The inner child is a part of ourselves that’s been present since we were conceived, it is part of our subconscious that has been recording messages (even though it cannot process it yet). It holds emotions, memories and beliefs from the past, even special abilities. The more we are attached with worldly desires and possessions the less the light of one’s inner child is seen. Our inner child is of light, innocent, loving and caring. The other one is self serving, wanting, and selfish. Depending on one’s upbringing determines how much of one’s inner child is seen.

When we are young, we have lots of freedom, from games, sports, meeting other kids - we don’t have much worries, we have what we call resilience. As we get older, we start to lose a bit of this resilience. We have new roles, worries, pressures, even responsibilities.

Resilience can support us on stressful times. And we can do that if we embrace our inner child. And because we live in a world with a lots of problems, we choose to nurture only the parts of ourselves that are valuable, and so we lose sight of nurturing our natural strengths, interest, or preferences, etc.
As a child, our upbringing shaped our behavior. We learn what is expected, encouraged, or communicated and adjust ourselves accordingly in an effort to protect our attachments and stay safe.

By meditating or listening to healing subs, you will embrace this inner child and you will observe your thoughts and behavior that are not healthy. Then by allowing the energy to flow, you will have a sense of trust, safety, guidance of emotions addressing those emotions with self-compassion. So when we understand what our inner child needs, we can deepen our self-awareness and build ways to heal us.

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:pray::heavy_check_mark::+1:

I love this post.

I have enjoyed adding a little parts work to my life. (Internal family systems)

I have been connecting with inner me (not just the child) from all the different ages and stages of my development and upbringing thus far.

Using Neville Godard’s revision technique alongside this work has helped tremendously too.

The use of subs has helped me gain greater awareness on the parts of me I abandoned to please others and keep those attachments maintained, even when they were not really good for me.

Demolishing old faulty structures in a loving and compassionate manner, while also giving myself grace and loving forgiveness for what I did not know but now do know.

No more excuses.

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What to do when your “light” is too much for others… => You let them wear sunglasses and you keep on shining!

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