What title promotes and develops charisma the most?

I speak about daily life personal charisma, not that charisma as a side effect of your power or status, just pure and independent personal charisma :slight_smile:

I think True Social would fit the bill

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Chosen is scripted for that.

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You can stack Chosen with Chosen From With to build that 360 charisma (external and internal).

Chosen From Within below
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I would choose stark because its very social, fun and charismatic not only because of the status

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Me thinks the closest main store title to your requirement is Godlike Masculinity: The Commander.

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Why the emphasis on “charisma separate from status?”

That’s impossible.

Charismatic people that have NO power or status are CREEPY.

Think Grima Wormtongue. You know why his name is Wormtongue? That’s what they call someone who has Charisma but no status in the slightest. Just a wormtongue.

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I agree with @Trader and @ksub the best answer to your question is True Social and/or Chosen. Chosen has power/status but I think it’s what you’re looking for, more than True Social. You could also use True Sell, which is pure Charisma, but it’s very goal oriented, you end up actively trying to charm people all the time.

Any social sub will increase Charisma. PCC does a good job in the sense that you learn the essence of what it means to “charm” and when to use it. Being the wrong type of charming, at the wrong time, is detrimental, even if you’re extremely charming, but the right time/place to use your skills is more important than the level of “skills” you have with it

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For me, it was Stark.

GLM:TC if you have ventured into the Artisinal Line.

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You’re conflating charisma with halo effect.

There is only charisma. Animal magnetism. All charisma is pure, independent and personal.

Charisma is not an inherent side effect of specific status or authoritative position of power.

That would be halo effect.

Halo effect is where people perceive someone as having positive qualities (attractiveness, competence, charisma, etc.) If someone is in a position of power or high status, then people make a positive assumption about them, that they are charismatic.

In actuality, if the person with the halo effect was in the same room as someone who has real personal charisma… they would quite literally get smoked.

For example: If you are a jacked bodybuilder on steroids, I might positively assume that you are extremely strong due to your appearance (halo effect) and can bench 300lbs… when in actuality you can only bench 225 and would get smoked by a powerlifter who has real strength (personal charisma).

TLDR: Perceived charisma, is not the same thing as true personal charisma.

This is all my opinion.

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All titles here that help you develop charisma, do so in a manner that is very authentic, personal and unique to you, by using the best parts of yourself.

GLM: TC looks like it is jam-packed with charisma, charm, etc based on the product copy.

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Stark or GLM:TC
Stark gets the slight edge in my opinion…
In my experience the “avatar of charisma” quote in the sales page is a prime accomplishment of Stark after a couple cycles…
GLM:TC felt more like charisma with an edge of dominance.
Stark felt like pure charisma.

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There are different flavors of charisma and the word can mean different things to different people. It would help tp be more explicit about what you want.

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what is internal charisma?

because you can clearly see simple individuals with no power, but they are super charismatic. them speech, them body language etc

yes, I’m very familiar with Tolkien’s universe and with how Tolkien emphasized the word as itself in his books due to he was a sincere christian catholic. I can’t say Grima was charismatic, through.

i think wanted black would help. its like those video games where you can max out your charisma and nothing else

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True Sell probably the most of all … charisma is your likeability and ability to influence which is essentially persuasion.

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I’m thinking maybe charisma has a lot to do with being in a state of playfulness so perhaps choosing a sub that does that would help.

I know PS and WB (ran separate times) did that for me and can see as @Trader suggested, TS could too. Maybe even DD.

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Also perhaps having the ability to self-express freely your true self infront of others is another large component too.

This might help as it relates to social skills.