What is True Masculinity?

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#1

What is true masculinity? So, I figure I’ll start this thread since a lot of people seem interested when I mention it but don’t want to take over another thread.

Well, when I was 20, I thought it was being the most loud one, the most cocky one. Well, apparently, that was wrong. Is it being super high status, having high-status body language, dressing like a boss, acting like a boss?

I mean, it’s actually closer, but still not really.

So what is it then? What is true masculinity? What is the gravitational pull women are drawn to as moths to light?

So, these last 2 years or something, I have been living and working with, let’s just say, one of the most respectable guys in the dating industry. I will not mention names.

And just being around him, I have learned so much about masculine and feminine dynamics.

But before I go deeper to not just make this a rant, I would love to hear what masculinity, and even dominance, is to you."

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#2

Now I can’t even describe how good my mentor is with women. He accidently stole girls from 2 of us in 5 seconds when he thought we did not like the girls. And had a threesome.

Now this is one of the not crazy stories. When I first started working with him I felt tiny next to him even though I’m taller.

Now I don’t.

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#3

And I have been around criminals, Gangsters, lawbreakers.

Ok I’m getting off topic.

What is it that make you BIG. Energetically?

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#4

Can you tell us what he taught you?

#5

Lately I’m leaning more and more toward Radical Man

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#6

I will little by little. As it would take me around 24 hours of constant talking to Do it😂

#7

So first of all One of the most attractive traits is…. Drum roll

Unreactiveness , And I don’t mean you act like it don’t affect you. Or you scream at a girl for making fun of you.

If you look at Fredh and Fit they are screaming at these 50 pound childish girls Cause they feel disrespected.

That’s the opposite of being masculine. Whenever a girl make you lose your cool you go into your feminine energy .

Be unfazed by everything life throws at you.

Complete Equanimity and calmness . Be the calmness to her storm.

Example: I dated this girl who was freaking out about everything between heaven and earth.

Did I try to fix her problem no. Did I go into her energy of desperation no.

I was just in calm compassion.

All the later girls i dated Said the same you made me feel safe and your calm make me feel super feminine.

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#8

A mentor of mine, a transpersonal psychologist and head of a school of sexual healing and awakening, puts it like:

Masculinity is—first and foremost—protective.

Masculinity is the strength of love.

Masculinity is the essence of courage.

Masculinity is sexual.

Masculinity is exciting.

Masculinity is safe.

These are the virtues and qualities I focus on.

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#9

I think it’s what you make it.
I can think of soooo many movie / fantasy / historical masculine individuals and each and one of them is sooo different.

Some are very serious,
some overtly goofy ( yolo kind ).

You get the most funny villains,
the most hard headed, angry, lower iq warlords or the most honorable, collected and wise rulers. There is no ultimate definition character trait wise.

You get a lot of beautiful and unique mixes and I think that’s what it makes it so wonderful. Masculinity is more like a side of the spectrum that you lean to but it’s never too specific. It’s up to you what you make it.

Confidence could be something that connects all the archetypes. I can’t think of shy masculine…

Status wise… it’s not really necessary. I see people say you need to be on top of the social ladder but I can easily imagine a lone wolf caveman from ages ago just doing his own thing in his own cave and he’s masculine. He doesn’t need a tribe to be a leader of to be manly. As long as he’s physically strong and capable, he’s fine.

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#10

I mean… find who you are, without external influences.

All this effort to adhere to other’s rules, labels , “a masculine should be”, looks like the epitome of insecurity to me

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#11

matches what David Deida teaches, and my own experience

#12

I love this defnitely great virtues to work on

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#13

Honestly the absolute most attractive trait is to be completely unplugged from validation but that is a journey and a half. Extreme mindfulness needed

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#14

There’s more to masculinity than your ability to seduce, and there’s more to seduction than masculinity. Some of the best seducers are hyper-feminine

In a way, hyper focusing on being the “best” at seduction is a pretty non-masculine trait in my eyes, as you’re basing your life around others and validation, and you’re not creating anything of value, just socializing at scale which is a very feminine energy trait, to be consumed by relationships.

Men build things. With their hands or minds, doesn’t matter. I associate action, purpose, vision, drive, non-reactivity, risk, legacy, wealth, AND sexual expression with masculinity.

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#15

I fully agree with this,

#16

So also what is status? Well chemically it’s just a lot of serotonini and very low cortisol.

So my mentor and I for that matter have tried different ways to increase chemicals when going out. Some illegal. And MDMA is so superior to everything else.

Cause High serotonin lack of inhibition and massive relaxation + super high love is just the most attractive you can be.

So what I recommend all you to do is increase your serotonin through different practices and decrease your stress.

Doing just that will make you way more masculine.

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#17

If you can go out in 3rd or 4th jhana it’s pretty much done you get complete celebrity aura

#18

And then combine that with subs and you get a incredible cocktail

#19

What is that

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#20

I’ve seen some of Sir. Patrick’s mentors

That can’t be right in and off itself? I know there is the popular lobster theory which corresponds to the human dominance hierarchy, but if that was the case every prozac hopped up person I know would be high status. I’m sure there’s Test, dopamine, and other factors that come in… Especially if part of masculinity is capacity to handle challenges, push through resistance with equanimity etc. Serotonin in and of itself won’t do that. I know every time I feel a massive boost in my status and inhabitation, its after some insane accomplishment and challenge. What drove me there and the boost after, seems more than just Serotonin. The push that expresses disinhibition, adventure, novelty, curiosity, is dopamine related. Same with MDMA- its a dopamine & serotonin dump for your synapses. I get the essences of this message though.

Like this is awesome

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