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IMO more data is definitely needed.
With that said, I know that @Invictus was able to successfully use ZP products on an “as-needed” basis. I also know that I have used ZP products to create a short term boost directly after running the sub, which is what ultimas were ultimately used for.
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lets keep this discussion alive.
I strictly adhere to a even more conservative listening pattern than the recommended guidelines, but i have on a handful of times switched out a listen of my main title for sex mastery or diamond as a one off here and there to great results.
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exactly how long before sex did you listen to these products?
I suppose around 12 hours before. In the morning before that night.
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Damn I liked this and forgot it even existed 
More data is still needed.
However, I have been using subs on a “as needed” basis for a while now, and while there are specific ways I use in order to get the best results, there’s a big factor in play here: not everyone is @Invictus
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Yea because of the “pump effect” I’ve actually used subclub products on an as-needed basis before and they tend to work pretty well that way too.
which ZP products have you had success using on an as needed basis?
Emperor, Stark, as above and so below.
Now that I have a stack I actually want to commit to beyond 3 weeks I don’t plan to run the programs this way for a while but as long as you don’t overdo it it seems like they’ll work great as short term boosters.
Keep in mind however that most of me doing it that way was with older technologies like QV2 so I wasn’t at all surprised that ZP’s could be used this way.
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anyone else got thoughts on this subject?
I was using the third spot in my stack for an “as needed” basis. Ive switched this sub a lot whenever i feel i need to boost some aspect i struggle with, and it has worked great for me like this. I do wanna say that my most prominant result from each sub usually only happens after a 5 day period when i listen to it for the second time, so a bit of planning is required.
In my experience using it like this obviously isnt like ultima, where you could use it daily. But it is far more powerfull than anything i ever got from ultima and it does open up your stack to try out more subs.
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When you tag yourself, who is summoned?
On another note, have you been able to use every title in ZP on an as needed basis (e.g. Emperor, Stark, Wanted, Spartan, Diamond) or does it only work (for you) with certain titles?
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My higher self 
The ones I’ve used so far on an “as needed” basis are:
Chosen
Mind’s Eye
Wanted
RICH
Love Bomb
Paragon
Notice that, apart from LB and paragon, I’ve had some experience with all of them (extended amount of time), and that’s what I suspect one would have to do in order to be able to use them on an as needed basis.
Today I used Chosen, was gonna keep it in place of Emperor, but I won’t and I used Chosen as a “refresher” of some sort, and it was a good thing to do because my girlfriend has this presentation for a competition tomorrow, and just texting her a bit got her inspired to work harder
But now that I’m done with that, Chosen won’t stay in the stack 
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So then I’ve gotta ask, what effects did you receive when you did you use LB and/or Paragon?
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Instantly resolved an issue I had with my sister, made me realize that I was being a bit too harsh and didn’t understand her point of view, and then apologize and being a better brother (she apologized as well)
Too many hangovers have been cured by paragon
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For me, ultima gave me much better results to be used as “needed”, like Libertine Ultima or PSITU before party or a date 1-3h before. Ultima drain much energy, it is working better if I use it maximum 3 times a week. Then the results are fading if I am using them more in a week.
For now I only tried Wanted ZP and Primal ZP. I will try Khan ZP soon.