What combo out of Mogul or EOG or RICH?

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#1

Hello guys,

Hope you’re doing amazing

I have a little trouble choosing what combo to use

My main goal is wealth, but i understand if financial independance can be used as a goal before that (At least get out of my current situation before shooting straight for wealth, in other words.)

I currently am learning trading and not doing too bad. So that could be a money avenue to boost.

I was gonna combine Mogul ZP with Rich ZP. But i’ve been hearing so much good feedback on EOG (Multi-phase products tend to confuse me, and one stage products seem more simple to follow, but if people say they’re more effective i’ll do it)

Would Mogul + Rich be good for me?

Or maybe EOG + RICH?

Or EOG by itself

I’m really not sure what to choose

I know @Hoppa and @Malkuth have experience with these, so your feedback is very valued

Thank you so much!

PS: There’s even a part of me that is wondering if Limitless Executive would be good in some way. Easy to go in this rabbit hole of never-ending possible combos :man_facepalming:t4:

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#2

Mogul has as much money manifestation scripting as R.I.C.H. Where I think Mogul really differs is the bits about probing the depths of your mind to uncover what your passionate pursuits are.

But since EoG ST2 covers that, I’d do EoG and R.I.C.H.

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#3

Based off my own personal experience I’d say EoG + R.I.C.H - I have limited experience with Mogul but EoG has changed my life massively.

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#4

I have created an automatic trading forex system on EOG st1 and QL st1.
So EOG + Rich sounds great.

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#6

Could you describe more about your current situation?

No dollar amounts necessary.

I mean what actions are you already taking, what comes easily, what feels a bit more difficult.

So far the main thing we know is that:

That is awesome.

Any other details about your current situation? (Keep it vague to protect your privacy.)

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#7

What did you say?

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#8

I asked how your life changed and how long did you run EOG?

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#9

Since December, not sure exactly what date but yeah. EoG seems to be beyond a money sub, and especially a get rich quick sub. In my opinions it’s a success sub.

I knew I needed healing so I stayed on Stage 1 until a couple weeks ago. Now on Stage 2 and I’m taking my time. I’m gonna alternate Stage 1 between 2, 3 and 4 whilst doing a couple cycles. I plan on staying on each for a good while.

If you look at my journal you’ll see that it was suggested I get EoG because I was broke and wasn’t making any money. This was literally around December time.

Now I’m making money and know that I’m going to be and continue to be successful. Opportunities are manifesting out of thin air.

I increased my self worth with EoG (however I am doing it in conjunction with Emperor and until a couple weeks ago also Chosen). With that increase of self worth I raised my prices of my classes to £10 per person for an hour and a half class. I get a good few people coming each week, consistently.

I just got an opportunity to cover a teacher I’ve never met before. She ended up messaging me and loved my stuff. I went and taught her class last night for an hour and got paid £40 (I’m not in charge of financials for this because it’s not my class). They also loved me because I started to love me.

Bringing me onto my next point.

The thing that changed the most was and has been my mindset and I’m putting this down to stage 1. I’m done with living a life of insecurity, not thinking I’m good enough, doubting myself and whatever else. I don’t allow any negative thoughts to pop into my mind anymore because I’m in charge of changing that. That old negative story and self is gone. If anything negative comes up I’ll affirm what I want instead for a little while and move on. I’ve started putting this kind of stuff, the affirmations and changes in thoughts, onto my instagram to keep myself accountable.

I no longer have trauma in regards to not making money doing what I love, and if I do it isn’t even abbot deal. That stopped me before and Stage 1 has truly decreased those thoughts or whatever else.

I also took ‘inspired’ action.

I messaged people I thought might be interested in my classes. I made my classes super fun, motivating and made my choreo shorter for people to feel more comfortable learning.

I made posters and promoting the hell out of the song choice as well as my classes on Instagram. I take videos at the end of every class of myself
I edit and post it the day before my class starts the following week as a reminder. Sometimes I take videos of others and edit them into promotional footage.

I constantly get messages about class from several people. That’s only ever going to increase as will the amount of people coming to class because my class is amazing and forever will be.

^ see how I said that? I don’t ‘think’ it’s amazing, I know it’s amazing and no-one in this world can replace what I can do personally and how I interact with my students.

My mindset and my money is only going to continue growing and growing. I’m only going to be more in demand and more successful. I already know it.

That’s thanks to EoG. I haven’t even added R.I.C.H to this and honestly I don’t feel like I even need it right now.

My best advice for you.

Listen to EoG Stage 1 for a long while. Maybe 3 months minimum. Follow up with Stage 2 and then alternate Stage 1 between each stage.

Take some action on whatever it is you want to do.

Work on changing your thought process. Subs help massively within this but you’ve gotta guide them consciously too.

Edit: In my opinion - your reality is a mirror of your thoughts. That’s why you gotta do the work to change them.

Reap the benefits.

Edit 2: Don’t be a victim. If you get into Victim Mode and start feeling down, that’s okay but again, you and only you can change that ultimately. You can embrace the feelings but at the end of the day…

Rememeber Who The F You Are…

You’re not really this unsuccessful guy who isn’t making money or isn’t successful, those are just lies told to you from someone else and/of yourself at some point.

Create the new story and become that person.

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#10

This is an incredible post

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#11

Thanks man, glad it could be helpful!

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#12

Thank you @Trader @Brandon @Deadpool @Malkuth for your replies. They are appreciated more than you think, and i’m very grateful you took the time to help and give your input

@Trader : EOG and RICH definitely seems to come back as a good combo for a lot of people. While I usually prefer the concept of a single stage Sub, i understand that that might just be me being impatient, and that doing things stage by stage might actually be the better idea.

How much time did you spend on each EOG stage? That’s the part that is a little confusing for me. Thank you!

@Brandon : Your latest post is insane! So informative and helpful. Thank you so much. It definitely clears up a lot of things, and i’m glad you say your situation turn around, specially in a short period of time since you said in December things weren’t going as well. So that’s another vote for EOG + RICH. I will re-read your post many times to take as many ideas as possible from it.

The amount of time you spent of Stage 1 (3 months) is definitely one of the questions i had about multi-stage Subs, since some people say 1 month, etc. This was a confusing part for me about MS Subs. I’m guessing after a few more months, you’ll decide to move to Stage 3 at that point? Depending on your progress? Thanks again for all your help

@Deadpool : That’s awesome man! Glad to see another Forex trader here. And another vote for EOG + RICH :smile: Did you feel like Stage 1 was enough for you and that’s why you didn’t move to other stages, or is it because you’ve only recently started it, and didn’t get enough time to move to the next stages?

I don’t expect anyone to just share something they’ve worked hard on or anything, so this is just an aside, but if you’re ever open to share what helped you in trading or your automated system, i would be very grateful for that. Either here or on private message. And of course, if i can do anything in return or help with anything, i would be more than glad to do that. Or you can totally ignore this if it’s something you’d rather keep private, which would be totally understandable. In any case, i wish you the best of luck and success in trading and other things!

@Malkuth : At the moment, I have an apartment i’m renting out that’s bringing me some monthly income, which is very important as it’s my only source of revenue. I still live with my parents, so i don’t pay rent, or much food, etc. Most of my money is spent on trading education, and putting it in the market to test out what i learn. Even if i’m ambitous and have bigger money goals, ideally, my next goal would be to move out of my parents’ place and be able to afford living independently.

I’m fortunate that, if a good business idea or deal comes, i would say my father would be to help out financially to do that maybe (depending if he approves of the idea of course), so that could be a door for a source of business/income in the future

The good thing about trading these days is that there are prop firms that would fund you if you past a challenge, then you can trade with a higher capital, and earn money that way. Since trading doesnt really make much money with a small account. So my near goal is to pass those challenges. I’m not doing too bad on them right now, but need a little bit more time to be consistent. I would say this is my closest goal to reach currently.

I have no privacy problems, and i can share my current situation. But so far, this is what came to mind. I don’t know if there’s anything else you would have preferred i disclose. I have no problem with that.
Thank you so much for your input and help! Here and on your other posts i’ve seen throughout the forums

Thank you guys! Your replies have made my day, and I really appreciate them all. If i can do anything in return please let me know :pray:t3:

PS: EOG + RICH seems like the combo that’s most recommended. So i might go with that

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#13

To that, I can say a few keywords let’s say.
www.tradingview.com → pine script (udemy or youtube) + strategy → trandigview backtest feature → VPS or your own 24h running PC → Pine connector + broker of your choice (mt4 or mt5).

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#14

Awesome my friend. Thank you!

I’m briefly familiar with all those steps. It’s the strategy part that is the secret sauce :joy:

I think the way i’m learning to trade now is pretty good as a strategy, and my main improvement area is psychology and emotional control. But i’m not sure if my strategy would be adaptable to a script. It’s in a way discretionary and not 100% mechanical.

But i’ll look this up and see if there’s a way to make it work. (I doubt it but we’ll see)

Thanks again :pray:t3:

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#15

I am quite bad at psychology, impulsiveness, and impatience and also I do not like to spare many hours watching charts.
With this, you can spend 10 minutes a day checking if everything is going as it should be.

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#16

How do we know this?

You make it sound like RICH doesn’t really have a benefit over Mogul, which I doubt that they are so similar :wink:

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#17

Yes you’re right. Having something scripted allows your emotions not to play a big role in how you trade. It removes a little bit the human element. Good stuff

I will check if my strategy can be implemented that way. I’ve never tried. If not, i would love to send you a PM if you don’t mind. Not now. Just sometime in the future if i feel i’m still struggling. If that works for you

Thank you!

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#18

Also, I forgot to mention my strategy is working on a 1-hour chart, and with my 9-5 job it is unbearable doing both on working days. So this is the best solution for me and I do not regret it.

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#19

A new strategy i’m learning is based on the 1-hour too :wink: It’s a much more relaxed way to trade compared to my old way, since my SL and TP are wider, and the entry doesn’t need to be as precise.

When i used to trade on the M15/M30 with my old strategy, i had to catch smaller movements but i had to have a perfect and precise entry, since every pip mattered. So i had to be in front of the screen more

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#20

With a script you can trade M15/M30 if you want :slight_smile:

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#21

Yes of course. It’s not about the timeframe. It’s just that that strategy seems to me like it wouldn’t be adaptable to a script because i visually need to see how the candles are moving to see if an entry would make sense. So it’s not just a set of “this happens + that happens = entry”. But i’ve never tried scripting anything. I’ll learn about it and see if it makes sense