@SaintSovereign please tell me “Love Without Attachment” module script is also in Heartsong major title.
Sounds like we’re touching on very similar topics in our posts lately 
Disclaimer: I haven’t watched this video to the end, so I’m only commenting based off the first 5 minutes or so.
Perhaps you could call this a commentary on why this topic even needs to exist, why the question needs to be asked nowadays 
“And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” – Matt 24:12
Edit: good selling point for AHJ perhaps?
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I feel so differently to that guy.
It’s funny. I literally just wrote about this this morning.
I don’t truly and actually disagree with him.
In other words, I think he’s noticing a phenomenon that is real and that is genuinely unfolding.
I just disagree with his conclusions about its implications.
I was talking to my sis about this topic, and this morning I wrote the following to her. (It’s extemporaneous, and I haven’t honed it down or refined it.)
Technology is a mirror that enables one to see more quickly and clearly the consequences and implications of their underlying values and choices.
(Maybe this is another connotation of the ‘black mirror’ concept.)
Technology enables this awareness because it rapidly enhances External power.
It’s basically that old Disney trope where in the first 5 minutes of the movie, the pre-adolescent protagonist, in a moment of pique, makes some extreme statement about how reality ‘ought to be’. Then through some magickal or scientific effect, that exact condition is made real. And the rest of the movie involves the child learning the consequences of that desire.
In a nutshell: ‘be careful what you wish for’.
Technology makes certain wishes come true. And, thereby, enables us to see the unexpected implications of our wishes.
It’s an invitation to become more mature in our intentions.
Maybe I don’t really wish that: “I never had to work again” or “Everyone would just go away” or “I could eat these foods every day all the time” or that “[my latest uncomfortable experience] had never happened” and so on.
I think it’s an invitation to maturity.
What seems true for this AI/IT extension seems to be what was also true for marriages and relationships: ‘It doesn’t remove your issues, it just gives you more issues to work with’. It doesn’t remove your house, it just gives you more rooms to live in (and to clean and maintain).’
If you weren’t cleaning your one room house, adding 12 more rooms doesn’t really address that problem. It just defers its confrontation.
But to me this doesn’t mean ‘People should never move into larger homes’.
It means we’ve got to learn to integrate (metaphorical) ‘Cleaning’ (and Care) into our versions of A Joyful Life.
External technological advancements MUST be accompanied by Internal technological advancements.
Freestyling here.
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There is definitely a real phenomenon that is being referred to That’s part of the reason it’s gotten 116K views.
However, to me it seems more like a perfect storm of a number of different factors including:
- The effects of the virus and the experimental gene therapy
- The weakening geomagnetic field and how it is letting more high energy radiation in of the type which affects the forebrain.
- The monetization of dopamine feedback loops in both social media and AI (like Mark Vicente’s recent discussion with Richard Grannon, “AI told me I was a prophet”) and the accompanying potential for validation of psychosis.
- The continuing impact of past lockdowns on society and content specifically created to induce clicks through appealing to a sense of confirming a perspective of fear and danger (videos of attacks by different racial groups against one another bouncing around in echo chambers). In other words, predictive programming regarding “a more angry world”.
The problem isn’t the technology itself but rather the way it has been monetized and implemented. If you are in control of how you use the technology and act responsibly, in full knowledge of the fact that algorithms are controlling the content you are being delivered, it has more benefit than risk. Without that, the risk/harm has the potential to exceed the benefit.
Anyway, this is getting a little away from the topic of this thread, so I want to bring it back on track.
The “new” increasingly digital society is designed to remove the elements of human connection (it’s more economically “efficient” that way), that spirit on spirit communion. First it was use an ATM rather than go to a bank and get money from a human teller. Then it was forget the tactile feel of cash all together, just tap and go everywhere or pay with your phone. Hell, pay with the internet. Don’t bother going to the store to find out if they have the product you want. Use eBay to buy from a seller of mass produced drop shipped garbage. Don’t bother going to a bar, use tinder or grinder to find people based on superficial digital images rather than real world connection.
But for now at least there is still a choice for people to dwell outside of these realms and not be some Persephone existing in the real world only for a season. Yes on the internal technology; my phraseology would probably be along the lines of connecting with life energy, biologicals. As much as love can exist without an object, it is usually paradoxically an embodied experience of a “spiritual” connection. And much as we could blame the weakening geomagnetic field (because it does contribute), the everyday disconnection from the body and one another is a big contributor to people being confused above these types of things.
Freestyling also, so YMMV on this discussion.
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I’m not going to address your main, specific points, primarily because they require more reflection and I’m not there right now.
But on a more general level, I usually reject “Fall” or “Progressive Degradation” narratives. We humans live such short lives relative to the history of the planet, or even to the history of anatomically modern Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
I don’t believe that, particularly on a felt, visceral level, we have very much memory of or perspective on the lived experiences of human beings in the past. From the bits that I’ve been able to piece together so far, life today is much kinder than most eras in the past, for the average person.
So, I think that when we attempt to characterize our historical moment, the result is usually a kind of Rorschach projection that tells us more about the ego of the speaker than about anything else.
Genghis Khan’s people killed an estimated 10 to 11 percent of the global population in their expansion movement. It’s said that the Earth’s atmosphere actually became clearer due to the lower density of human beings burning fires.
I wonder what we felt at those times.
And that’s just one random fact out of millions.
I do not long for bygone eras. I long for wise actions and responses in this era.
When people make sociocultural generalizations, I believe they’re usually critiquing Spoon-feeding Culture.
In other words, if you are a person who chooses to be Spoon-fed by the conventions, norms, and institutions of your time, what may be your resultant quality of life? Interesting question, I guess; but not my favorite because I really, really do not want to live a spoon-fed life any more than is absolutely necessary.
This part.
This is what I want for everyone. A kind of mass literacy campaign that enables people to make informed choices about how to care for and harm themselves.
And you know, I think various iterations of your statement have been equally true and appropriate in just about every historical era.
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It’s probably a better topic for a separate thread anyway, on a different day.
I could say I neither agree nor disagree with several of those points. But they’re interesting perspectives nonetheless, and I do appreciate reading your posts.
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I read every answer here and wow. I could say love is a collection of stuff that we label as “love”. A thing we have all experienced or can experience that we can’t quite define.
Interesting video, for me I’ve actually never been very active on social media. Never had an Instagram, only briefly had a snapchat, have a Facebook but never really used it, had a Myspace with one picture and never used it, I now avoid comment sections on youtube in general, had a tiktok for like 30 minutes then deleted it because I could feel it was just a black hole for my attention… Also the most recent video by this guy is also interesting.
I also don’t watch/listen to podcasts.
oops didn’t notice you guys decided to end the convo
I really felt this message. I really see it in especially these narrative videos on YouTube. I used to take is seriously but after a while I started to see a disconnect between my real life experiences and what someone on YouTube said.
(Not to mention most online creators have skewed content to some extend because of desire to gain more fame/money/growth and the inclination to follow general ideas/belief systems/concepts/trends be it global or of a specific online circle that is more likely to make your video more appealing / shown or agreed with more which is natural)
And I see people who watch videos of specific agendas over and over due to algorithm and confirmation bias and with time they nod away even things that maybe they didn’t even previously believe or hear of just because of the momentum and flow of nodding. And then I talk to some people and I can literally hear what kind of ideology from online they were fed from the way they talk even when just talking about general things because they perceive so much of the world through these new lens now.
And ideology meaning any chain of beliefs that were globalized. They don’t have to be super big. They are half truths. Just like most things are. But when someone gets into it, the feed that half truths and then project it into their everyday life. So something that might happen here and there is now probably going to happen much more to you or you will perceive this thing to be happening even in places where it’s not that way at all. Delusion. And it’s often not making them happier. You can see they suffer and feel frustrations from all these beliefs they nodded away to for a little too long a little too often and are now limiting them.
It seems that it’s not even the beliefs but rather the lack of flexibility in thinking / lack of understanding just how diverse and undefinable the world is.
I can’t even set an example of any narrative because I know it would make someone on the forum instantly come up and defend it with their life. It’s… tiring… at times. Energy draining almost. It makes me appreciate more and more the time I get to spend on my own. In my room. Bored. Doing something in the real world. Experiencing it first hand rather than being told what is out there and what “everyone” is experiencing this year.
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Damn, I know exactly what you’re saying, this is a reason I personally don’t listen to podcasts or other “opinion”/discussion content. I believe there is an antidote to unwittingly taking on a bunch of potentially (and probably) limiting beliefs, and that is this:
Nothing has objective meaning, everything is objectively meaningless no matter what anyone says, thinks, or feels.
And just keep reminding yourself of that every time something upsets you. I’ve been doing it for the past few days and I think I’m actually changing.
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I’m about to meme hold your hats
“W”
“WWW”
Damn I was at the gym and there was this guy getting upset at another guy over nothing basically, I thought this guy was gonna fight, and yeah I for sure think this guy must be listening to things on the internet that are causing him to react this way. Like I understood his anger etc. like I’ve gotten angry and weird like that too but for different reasons and never towards a stranger dude. And yeah what causes that reaction is our beliefs and meanings we’ve assigned to things (which nowadays I think is heavily influenced by the media/politics/social media/internet). And again, I think the quickest way to just cut through all that shit is to just constantly remind ourselves “that has no objective meaning no matter what anyone says, thinks, does, or feels because nothing has objective meaning” whenever something upsets us until it becomes our normal state of being.
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I think this is the most profound thing I’ve read this year.
Some other perspectives:
https://scitechdaily.com/where-do-we-feel-love-scientists-shed-new-light/
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A stalker-ish song:
But this line got my attention:
“But after that, the floodgates opened up
And I fell in love with everyone I saw”
I wonder if he’s referring to a type of unconditional love.
Also watching the video, the band members seem to be in a state of ecstasy as they play the song.