Just wondering what profound experience that blew your mind and truly believed that subs work?
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I’d heard about gateway and tried it for myself one day. It made me magnetic. Like walking down the street and people drifting towards me.
Thought it was interesting and branched out into experimenting with a fat reduction sub. This one I played on iPad speaker. I feel asleep with it on repeat. Took me a couple days to realize I had an iPad shaped line in my tummy where the iPad had rested.
So now I’m thinking there is something here. People talked about sub club and I tried one of theirs. I went out and ran into someone I knew. They were flirting with me. It creeped me out a little. I was curious if it would work but I didn’t mean for it to work that well.
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There are more than one experiences to mention, actually.
How Wanted changed my self-perception, how Khan Black ST1 helping me to get rid off porn and masturbation. How QL ST2 helped me to solve algorithmical problems. How Rebirth made me question the very essence of my existence. How alpha titles helped me get rid off “nice guy” syndrome and oneitis.
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It’s more like the small weird stuff that stacks up. Like people reciting objectives from the sub to me in some way. Still freaks me out and has me questioning what reality is at times.
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I knew after my first loop of Dragon reborn multistage and accidentally over exposed. Running Khan/WTP stack killed the nice guy tendencies and ended up pushing too far then throttled it back.
Even though I’m not running Khan currently and not sure I will again, I would have paid thousands of dollars for what it did for me after 9 months of use.
This is how it played out for me and the conscious guidance that I applied. YMMV
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Sounds like an amazing transformation. What sub is WTP or is that a module? Also what is YMMV?
Emperor: The Will To Power and Your Mileage May Vary.
It was a combination of multiple factors that lead to me blasting through the nice guy tendencies to Tyrant then back to Center.
Other users here have used that same combo with stellar success. What works for one may not work for someone else.
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The entire Khan experience made me a believer.
Fat burning to the point that I could see a slight six pack with no exercise.
Women staring and flirting with their eyes. Women staring and looking away. Women being nervous around me. Women smiling at me or saying hi to me as they walk past me with their boyfriend.
Respect from people. Men trying to be more alpha than me. Men staring at you like, “Who is this guy?”
Khan is undeniable and as advertised. Not sure if it’s profound and mind blowing if you experience the things that the sales page says it will do, but the fact that it actually works is pretty profound and mind blowing. At least to me anyway.
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Recon actually. Having my entire mood shift so rapidly and violently (Qv2 days) totally boggled my mind and proved to me that subs 100% work.
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That Qv2 recon was something else. I was definitely overexposing though because it seemed so common to run more than one loop and I thought I was missing out
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Khan or Khan Black?
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Great topic!
(Just as a meta-comment, I want to say: the part of you that created this topic is also the same reason you’re probably going to do really well with subs.
You felt an impulse of questioning. How do these work? Do they work well for everybody? How can I know if they work?
And then you took that impulse and harnessed it into the form of a question that will probably end up creating more encouragement, motivation, and relevant information for you.
In contrast, sometimes people feel the exact same impulse, but they direct it into diminishing or undermining their own or other’s results and experiences.
Both kinds of responses serve their functional purposes and both actually have some value, but the way you’ve taken just so happens to also lead to enhanced subliminal results. Because of the open-minded, constructive, resourceful attitude.)
Anyway,
My results tend to show up subtly, and they usually surprise me. Almost every time really. In other words, something happens and I think ‘oh, okay. life.’ And then afterwards, it hits me, ‘whoa! That was a result!’
One of the funnest was straight out of a Disney princess movie.
Maybe two or three years ago, I played one loop of a new, at the time, program called CHOSEN: The Way of Nature (it’s in the main store), and then I went outside to walk up to work.
As I was walking, a small bird, a sparrow, flew along with me. Then it circled around me twice, brushed my leg, and flew off.
And once again, as usual, I said, “Wow! That’s never happened before!” And then a few moments later, ‘wait a minute! …’
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Aww, thank you @Malkuth for the very kind compliments 
I have a very open mind and tend to believe in things until proven wrong. Even then, I would try to look for the good.
Your experience with the sparrow is so cool to hear about. I haven’t listened to any of the Chosen subs but funny thing I noticed is whenever I drive, birds always fly in front of me. I could be in the middle of nowhere and birds fly in front over my car.
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on lbfh i felt a blissful sensation and felt good in general.
on spartan and glm i felt a fire in my chest the pulled me to go harder in the things i needed to do. normally i would have to push and force myself to do more but it became automatic
i felt obvious differences with most of the subs i have listened to
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Khan. And that was mostly on old school Khan. Funny thing is, I stopped running it and ran KB and Ascension for a while and some of the belly fat came back. I’ve been using Khan Love and War off and on recently and the fat is melting off again. Some of the other effects are there as well, but not to the level as before since I’ve only ran ST1.
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Had to think about this one for awhile, although I started feeling I was getting results with any of the sub club subs, sex mastery absolutely blew my mind. I wasn’t a virgin, but after my first break up I expirrienced pretty severe performance anxiety to the point where I could even get it up. Literally after one loop, the next day I slept with the same girl I had that issue with the day before, and made her organism from sex alone, and pretty much every time we had sex there after. This one not only made me believe in subs, but made me realize the power of beliefs/ my own mind. At the time it was pretty reality shifting.
I’ll give a quick nod to the old super chargers as well, specifically the beast within that helped me break through multi year lifting plateaus as an advanced lifter and continue to hit 5-10 lb prs consistently even though I was nearly 10 years into lifting consistently.
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First time I tried a sub about 12 years ago, it was classic tech, 60min tracks with ocean waves and about 20 different positive affirmations that were openly shared on the store page to help align the conscious mind, I could actually hear the subliminal input in the track as faint whispers every 10seconds or so, I could feel the subconscious impact in my body directly each time I heard the whisper of the suggestion, it was so interesting to actually have a marker for when the suggestion is made and feel the impact at the same time.
From the very first listen I had such powerful perspective and feelings shift that I didn’t need to believe, it was very obvious.
Reflecting on this I feel the tech nowadays has a deeper stronger impact subconsciously and more subtle unfolding in the conscious field because of the depth and spread of the input on the subconscious that the conscious mind ‘simply’ needs to allow the current of new inspired thoughts, feelings, actions that trickles in from the depths.
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